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As for the overall free kick stats from 2011-2015. Looking at the total free for/against diff, Footy wire says that Port ranked 12th and 11th in 2015 and 2014 respectively. I'm not concluding that we're getting screwed but we're clearly not getting the arm chair ride that the 5 yr stats suggest.
Further to that, if we look at the Hinkley led Port, you know since about when we started resembling an AFL team again rather than a SAAFL team, my stats show that we played 31 games against non-SA teams in Adelaide for a total differential of +61.

Averages per game: For 18.5 Against 16.5

And overall, total frees for/against for Port (2013-15, all venues, all opponents) for that same period, Port had a differential of -34.
 

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Teams didn't take us as seriously back then. We were young and enthusiastic and caught a few off guard. The stakes and pressure are higher now and we need to step up and take it to the next level.
We'll see this with the Bulldogs this year. They probably won't win in Sydney for another 20 years.
 

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What will be interesting to see will be how he copes physically with being out for a year. If he manages to come back pretty well, then I would expect the same of the others.
He was planning to play in the WAFL so you'd imagine he kept himself in reasonable condition. Certainly be lacking match fitness though.
 

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Further to that, if we look at the Hinkley led Port, you know since about when we started resembling an AFL team again rather than a SAAFL team, my stats show that we played 31 games against non-SA teams in Adelaide for a total differential of +61.

Averages per game: For 18.5 Against 16.5

And overall, total frees for/against for Port (2013-15, all venues, all opponents) for that same period, Port had a differential of -34.

Also interesting that over the same period, our friends across the road had a +73 differential over 29 Adel games against non-SA sides. Average of +2.5 frees/game.

And overall, total frees for/against for Adelaide (2013-15, all venues, all opponents) for that same period, Adel had a differential of +88.


But yeah, Poortz Powaz doing okay...
 

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My avatar suggests I should be uplifting.
But I did want to know how our membership would suffer as a consequence of:
· University of Adelaide prediction of the loss of 24000 jobs as result of GMH closure – presumably within the Adelaide metro area, at the completion of 2017
Here are the assumptions I have made
· Those members who lose their jobs will not be financially able to buy membership
· All jobs will be lost in the metro area and referenced to a 2015 membership of 60000
· 85% of our 60000 live in the Adelaide metro area (population 1.3million) – A GUESS
· The % of PAFC members in Adelaide metro equally applies to the 24000 who will lose their jobs = [85% x 60000]/1300000
· Using the fact that closure of the Mitsubishi plant resulted in only 1/3 of those who lost their jobs being ever employed full time again. The rest (66.6%) remain unemployed or under-employed
· So the number affected will be MINIMUM: 66.6% x ([85% x 60000]/1300000) x 24000
· I have also calculated a MAXIMUM number of people affected by assuming that every 3 members is responsible for a 4th membership (husband, wife son, daughter etc). So every member is on average responsible for 1.33 memberships - A GUESS. In this case the number of memberships affected is: 1.33 x 66.6% x ([85% x 60000]/1300000) x 24000

On this basis
MINIMUM NUMBER OF PAFC MEMBERS AFFECTED BY GMH CLOSURE: 627
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PAFC MEMBERS AFFECTED BY GMH CLOSURE: 833
MIDDLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AFFECTED: 730

If I knew the weighted average of membership fees I could attempt to monetise this number of people, but for now I will monetise in terms of “Platinum Membership Equivalents” I have set Platinum membership at $500 for the 2018 season (the 2016 Platinum Membership compounded at an inflation rate of 2.75% over 2 years)
MINIMUM $ EFFECT: $314,000
MAXIMUM $ EFFECT: $417,000
Remember also that this may be reflected in merchandise sales, with an add-on effect of something like
[merchandise profit/60000] x (627 or 833)

Of course you can view this data any way you want – even dismissing it on the basis that lost memberships will be taken up by our waiting list. But we know that waiting lists can be surprisingly fickle, disappearing in poor economic circumstances or even if the team performs at less than the expected outcome.
I certainly write some dry stuff on this blog site. Beware, I am analysing what the SA government's predicted 9.3% unemployment might do to our membership at completion of 2017. Much more difficult because the 9.3% value quoted is garbage (including people who work 1 hour a week as employed is nonsense).
 

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My avatar suggests I should be uplifting.
But I did want to know how our membership would suffer as a consequence of:
· University of Adelaide prediction of the loss of 24000 jobs as result of GMH closure – presumably within the Adelaide metro area, at the completion of 2017
Here are the assumptions I have made
· Those members who lose their jobs will not be financially able to buy membership
· All jobs will be lost in the metro area and referenced to a 2015 membership of 60000
· 85% of our 60000 live in the Adelaide metro area (population 1.3million) – A GUESS
· The % of PAFC members in Adelaide metro equally applies to the 24000 who will lose their jobs = [85% x 60000]/1300000
· Using the fact that closure of the Mitsubishi plant resulted in only 1/3 of those who lost their jobs being ever employed full time again. The rest (66.6%) remain unemployed or under-employed
· So the number affected will be MINIMUM: 66.6% x ([85% x 60000]/1300000) x 24000
· I have also calculated a MAXIMUM number of people affected by assuming that every 3 members is responsible for a 4th membership (husband, wife son, daughter etc). So every member is on average responsible for 1.33 memberships - A GUESS. In this case the number of memberships affected is: 1.33 x 66.6% x ([85% x 60000]/1300000) x 24000

On this basis
MINIMUM NUMBER OF PAFC MEMBERS AFFECTED BY GMH CLOSURE: 627
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PAFC MEMBERS AFFECTED BY GMH CLOSURE: 833
MIDDLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AFFECTED: 730

If I knew the weighted average of membership fees I could attempt to monetise this number of people, but for now I will monetise in terms of “Platinum Membership Equivalents” I have set Platinum membership at $500 for the 2018 season (the 2016 Platinum Membership compounded at an inflation rate of 2.75% over 2 years)
MINIMUM $ EFFECT: $314,000
MAXIMUM $ EFFECT: $417,000
Remember also that this may be reflected in merchandise sales, with an add-on effect of something like
[merchandise profit/60000] x (627 or 833)

Of course you can view this data any way you want – even dismissing it on the basis that lost memberships will be taken up by our waiting list. But we know that waiting lists can be surprisingly fickle, disappearing in poor economic circumstances or even if the team performs at less than the expected outcome.
I certainly write some dry stuff on this blog site. Beware, I am analysing what the SA government's predicted 9.3% unemployment might do to our membership at completion of 2017. Much more difficult because the 9.3% value quoted is garbage (including people who work 1 hour a week as employed is nonsense).
You know what they say, if people are happy they drink, if they are sad they drink. I would think that sports membership would be similar, even if some revert to GA membership allowing others on waiting list to take up reserved seats.
 

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The only time I finished a game thinking thank goodness for that umpiring, was Melbourne at Adelaide Oval in 2011.

Although I also remember an incredibly obvious 50m penalty not being paid to Schulz that would've been a certain goal.
 

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Essendon fans are rapt about Crowley :rolleyes: seems like they still have a bunch of epic twats running the club.
a morphine and heroin substitute replacement 1st top up player and a pharmacist as a coach, Titus couldn't come up with this shit, expects El chapo to be named number 1 ticket holder:eek:
 

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Gee, imagine if the afl had integrity and were not just money hungry arseholes.......
HonestLy, the way it's run, if I wasn't a Port fan (rather than an AFL fan ) I'd give it the flick. The lack of integrity that becomes public puts a huge question mark on everything. The biased umpiring, the ridiculous fixture, the Easendon and Melbourne bullshit cover ups, the way that players are protected from the press and the police, the whole lot stinks to high heaven.

Thankfully come the bounce I am able to pretend that none of that stuff matters and can enjoy watching my club play, but looking at it from the outside in I'm an idiot for spending so much time and money on something so corrupt.
 

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HonestLy, the way it's run, if I wasn't a Port fan (rather than an AFL fan ) I'd give it the flick. The lack of integrity that becomes public puts a huge question mark on everything. The biased umpiring, the ridiculous fixture, the Easendon and Melbourne bullshit cover ups, the way that players are protected from the press and the police, the whole lot stinks to high heaven.

Thankfully come the bounce I am able to pretend that none of that stuff matters and can enjoy watching my club play, but looking at it from the outside in I'm an idiot for spending so much time and money on something so corrupt.

I love the league so won't ever desert it, but I also love to hate it.

I'm beginning to feel it is just representative of a bigger problem in Australia, in that we're just a really young immature nation.

I mean, if half the politicians and administrators had the integrity of one K Hinkley, imagine the things we could accomplish...
 

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I love the league so won't ever desert it, but I also love to hate it.

I'm beginning to feel it is just representative of a bigger problem in Australia, in that we're just a really young immature nation.

I mean, if half the politicians and administrators had the integrity of one K Hinkley, imagine the things we could accomplish...
It's immaturity to some extent, but not as a nation. It's immaturity as a nation with professional sport, the checks and balances are not quite there.
 
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