Autopsy Positives and Negatives vs Gold Coast

[langdon19]

Good game by Duggan, would have to be tracking pretty well in our B&F so far.

I gave 3 to the umps last night, sorry Duggan

 

[Monocle]

A quote from Dantes Inferno could be Simmos famous last words...?

"Through me is the way to the city of woe.
Through me is the way to sorrow eternal.
Through me is the way to the lost below.
Through me you enter into eternal pain,
Through me you enter the population of loss.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here..."

In Monty Pythons words "Cheer up, musn't grumble"...
There's always next week!?

You missed the most important one:

"Long and hard is the path out of hell that leads into the light."

Speaking of all things quotable from Dante Alighieri , this could have inspired Simmos old game plan.

" they had their faces twisted toward their haunches
and found it necessary to walk backwards,
because they could not see ahead of them,
..... and since he wanted to be ahead,
he looks behind and walks a backward path."

Sounds excruciatingly similar to the game plan out of defence when the likes of Barrass - McGovern - Rotham - Duggan are playing, kick to kick sideways and backwards, in the back half, I was at the game Friday night and sadly, it was still, the default - "go to" ...... way too often.

Not sure about it being the Devine Comedy to watch, as its only comical merit, is the idiotic notion that it can still an effective game plan.

Personally while I realise that we need to traverse our way through the Inferno ( seasons: 2022 - 2024 )
Then on to Purgatory ( seasons: 2025 - 2027 )
Hopefully ascending into Paradise somewhere around season: 2028 and onwards.

While Dantes tale is meant to be the souls journey, right at the moment is nothing more than ...... just soul destroying, to watch and witness.

 

[Bushhopper]

Am I missing something with Clark? Outside of that goal I thought he was average. He was copping abuse from the crowd.

For a guy with alot of footy experience he is absolutely s@#t house. Looks confused, and very slow to react, or move. I wish he would do everyone a favour and knee himself in the head and bugger off to the WAFL.

and while he's at it, XON can de list himself. If there was a car crash, XON would be right at the very very back as a by stander just watching...

 

[Chump Change]

Personally while I realise that we need to traverse our way through the Inferno ( seasons: 2022 - 2024 )
Then on to Purgatory ( seasons: 2025 - 2027 )
Hopefully ascending into Paradise somewhere around season: 2028 and onwards.

While Dantes tale is meant to be the souls journey, right at the moment is nothing more than ...... just soul destroying, to watch and witness.

if you build well you can skip through purgatory in 1-2 seasons. Adelaide and maybe GC are there now. Potentially next year, one or both are into the top 6.

 

[WCE_phil]

Just going to put a couple of positives in here.

Barrass set the season record of 19 spoils for the match.
Ginbey had 16 tackles.
Allen somehow despite us only have 31 inside 50's still managed to keep his 2 goal streak going.

One negative that I don't think is being posted or seen by a lot of people.
Allen doesn't go hard enough at the man in one on one or pack marking contests. It's as though he's worried about hurting the opposition but it means rather than getting to the ball with the player contact holding him to the right place he just misses the direct fall of the ball and is reaching too far / fumbles. He's either not making quite enough space in these contests or protecting his space well enough. It's the one area of his game that needs development, otherwise he's been absolutely outstanding. Certainly above and beyond what anyone could have expected for a player coming back after a year off into such a shit team.

 

[TheNewAnchor]

For a guy with alot of footy experience he is absolutely s@#t house. Looks confused, and very slow to react, or move. I wish he would do everyone a favour and knee himself in the head and bugger off to the WAFL.

and while he's at it, XON can de list himself. If there was a car crash, XON would be right at the very very back as a by stander just watching...

Clark is the most frustrating player on our list. He runs up and down the ground waving his arms in the air, shooing mozzies and calling for the ball. He's the perfect Tarzan analogy.....you know, built like Tarzan etc. The amount of times he stood outside the contest calling for the ball and doing his arms thingy was infuriating, get your head over the ball son and use that 194cm frame to do a bit of damage, you're embarrassing!

 

[KERRPOW]

Positive: got me free whopper on wednesday thanks to eesty

 

[ziad]

Just going to put a couple of positives in here.

Barrass set the season record of 19 spoils for the match.
Ginbey had 16 tackles.
Allen somehow despite us only have 31 inside 50's still managed to keep his 2 goal streak going.

One negative that I don't think is being posted or seen by a lot of people.
Allen doesn't go hard enough at the man in one on one or pack marking contests. It's as though he's worried about hurting the opposition but it means rather than getting to the ball with the player contact holding him to the right place he just misses the direct fall of the ball and is reaching too far / fumbles. He's either not making quite enough space in these contests or protecting his space well enough. It's the one area of his game that needs development, otherwise he's been absolutely outstanding. Certainly above and beyond what anyone could have expected for a player coming back after a year off into such a s**t team.

Good observation - subconscious responce to his injuries? We need a big imposing forward to partner him.

 

[Bestbird]

Another deflating loss with more Injuries. With Hough, Jamieson and H Edwards coming into the team as fringe players who have missed a fair chunk of the season it didn't bode well for this game.

The only positive is that North's and Hawthorn are just as bad but without the horror injury list and a fair few teams got hammered as well this round

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Who was the player that for one of kings shots on goal didn't even stand on the mark properly that tlet king run round and score?

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[WA footy mad]

positives:
l Edwards game showed he will be a good player in the future
Duggan played well
Negatives
Fitness was below par

 

[Bender_]

14 more weeks of this shit.

 

[Total_Juddshanks]

Clark is the most frustrating player on our list. He runs up and down the ground waving his arms in the air, shooing mozzies and calling for the ball. He's the perfect Tarzan analogy.....you know, built like Tarzan etc. The amount of times he stood outside the contest calling for the ball and doing his arms thingy was infuriating, get your head over the ball son and use that 194cm frame to do a bit of damage, you're embarrassing!

I was hopeful on Clark when we picked him up, but yeah nah, I've seen enough.

His skills are very poor and he's extremely slow- not just in terms of pace and acceleration, his reactions are slow, he moves the ball on to slowly and is often the guy who handballs into pressure or behind running players.

If you look at someone like Priddis, they compensated for their lack of pace and indifferent kicking by being a tackling machine, learning to use the ball effectively by hand and as you say getting inside and winning the ball.

Clark has all of Priddis' shortfalls and really none of his strengths. He doesn't win the ball, his handballing is if anything worse than his kicking, and he doesn't assert himself in packs. And as a mature ager its doubtful he's going to develop much, his body is what it is.

Good on him for living his AFL dream I suppose, but given his age and size I can't really see him improving and there is no conceivable way he is on the list of any team not contending for the wooden spoon.

 

[Wormkilla]

It’s a joke how Simpson and Nisbett have kept their jobs through this.

 

[Alesana]

I was hopeful on Clark when we picked him up, but yeah nah, I've seen enough.

His skills are very poor and he's extremely slow- not just in terms of pace and acceleration, his reactions are slow, he moves the ball on to slowly and is often the guy who handballs into pressure or behind running players.

If you look at someone like Priddis, they compensated for their lack of pace and indifferent kicking by being a tackling machine, learning to use the ball effectively by hand and as you say getting inside and winning the ball.

Clark has all of Priddis' shortfalls and really none of his strengths. He doesn't win the ball, his handballing is if anything worse than his kicking, and he doesn't assert himself in packs. And as a mature ager its doubtful he's going to develop much, his body is what it is.

Good on him for living his AFL dream I suppose, but given his age and size I can't really see him improving and there is no conceivable way he is on the list of any team not contending for the wooden spoon.

The Clark bashing is getting a bit over the top. I've watched every game live, then watched a second time pausing along the way for every single one of our disposals. Clark has done no worse than most of our team with his disposal. He's had one OOTF (still less than Duggan and Witherden), the odd handball to someone under pressure (still no worse than most), but his kicking has mostly been safe short kicks and his handballing is generally good. His biggest weaknesses are his marking, speed, and longer distance kicking (which wouldn't be much of an issue if he was used as in inside mid).

The notion that his hands are poor and is often the guy who handballs into pressure or behind running players is total crap. Even in an outside role he's still had more physical influence than the bigger Bailey Williams (but to be fair so has Gaff).

Some of you need to remember he is not playing an inside role, so how can you expect him to be winning the hard ball and be a tackling machine when it's not his job to do that? Of course the outside role doesn't suit him being a big and slow player, but that should be taken up with the coaching staff, not him. Priddis was starting games in the middle by around his fifth game, I'm sure if Clark had the same opportunity he'd be getting more praise than he is now. I haven't seen him in the WAFL but I don't think he needs to improve in general, he just needs to be utilised more wisely, and that's as a depth midfielder, not as a starting winger.

The below is to prove he can tackle, can be effective by foot (short distance), is effective by hand, and uses his physicality. And he can actually make the distance from 35m out.

 

[Trouto]

I dont have XRay facilities on my TV

you dont need them. blind freddy could see how much pain he was in from his arm. should have been dragged instantly

 

[Trouto]

They will have to find mysterious reasons why about six of their best players can’t play, or literally go at half pace and fudge passes and shots on goal.

already started - Sam Michell "diagnosed" with covid

 

[Trouto]

Just going to put a couple of positives in here.

Barrass set the season record of 19 spoils for the match.
Ginbey had 16 tackles.
Allen somehow despite us only have 31 inside 50's still managed to keep his 2 goal streak going.

One negative that I don't think is being posted or seen by a lot of people.
Allen doesn't go hard enough at the man in one on one or pack marking contests. It's as though he's worried about hurting the opposition but it means rather than getting to the ball with the player contact holding him to the right place he just misses the direct fall of the ball and is reaching too far / fumbles. He's either not making quite enough space in these contests or protecting his space well enough. It's the one area of his game that needs development, otherwise he's been absolutely outstanding. Certainly above and beyond what anyone could have expected for a player coming back after a year off into such a s**t team.

serious? did you not see when he ironed out that Gold Coaster on the wing in the 4th quarter?

 

[ziad]

you dont need them. blind freddy could see how much pain he was in from his arm. should have been dragged instantly

blind freddie keeps fit jumping to conclusions. A day and an Xray makes all the difference. All breaks are not breaks sol.

 

[squashface]

Can Blind Freddy play midfield?

 

[Bender_]

Can Blind Freddy play midfield?

Blind is a bit of an exaggeration, it's more accurately:

Freddy: eye - TBC

 

[Trouto]

blind freddie keeps fit jumping to conclusions. A day and an Xray makes all the difference. All breaks are not breaks sol.

this is true, but he was in obvious distress and constant pain in his arm, we had lost the game, there was no reason to keep a player on. And watching him compete with 1 arm was pretty bad, and medical person out there would be concerned about his health seeing him react to the slightest bump.

And i reiterate, there was no reason to keep him on the ground

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Who was the player that for one of kings shots on goal didn't even stand on the mark properly that tlet king run round and score?

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Bailey Williams

He is cooked. Give the guy a week off

 

[Rowan18]

this is true, but he was in obvious distress and constant pain in his arm, we had lost the game, there was no reason to keep a player on. And watching him compete with 1 arm was pretty bad, and medical person out there would be concerned about his health seeing him react to the slightest bump.

And i reiterate, there was no reason to keep him on the ground

The opposition players were really good about it. They would have noticed and it would have been pretty easy to lay a shepherd on him near the ball and mess his arm up even more. It was really poor form that they didn't bring him off.

 

[Truckosaurus]

The opposition players were really good about it. They would have noticed and it would have been pretty easy to lay a shepherd on him near the ball and mess his arm up even more. It was really poor form that they didn't bring him off.

Fortunately we weren't playing a team coached by one of the Scott brothers.