Positives & Negatives vs Saints

ioppolo

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+
Liam Ryan.
Sheed and Gaff move was made, to great affect.
I actually thought Vardy went ok in the ruck. Still want Hickey back.
Venables had a better night.
Waterman wasn't worse than Masten.
We won away against a rival top 8 team.

-
JK and JD, wtf happened tonight?
Cole, Duggan, Schofield & Jetta were average.
Petrol was against quiet other than two goals.
8 behinds at the end.
 

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+
Liam Ryan.
Sheed and Gaff move was made, to great affect.
I actually thought Vardy went ok in the ruck. Still want Hickey back.
Venables had a better night.
Waterman wasn't worse than Masten.
We won away against a rival top 8 team.

-
JK and JD, wtf happened tonight?
Cole, Duggan, Schofield & Jetta were average.
Petrol was against quiet other than two goals.
8 behinds at the end.
Disagree on Vardy. Some of his taps were atrocious. That one is the last 1/4 where he hit away from our midfielders right into the path of Gresham (leading to a St Kilda goal) typified his night.
 

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+ Vardy was good in the ruck but didn't do much around the ground
+ Thank F for Gov and Shepp
+ midfield especially in the 3rd
- Flog commentators
- points in the final qtr
- our percentage
- panic kicks
- precision kicking in the backline like last year but missing the precision
 

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+ Venables much improved this week, one of his better games for a while
+ Darling had a bit of mongrel about him in the second half
+ Ryan looked on another level
+ Cripps played well in his milestone game
+ Yeo said assholes on national television
+ Banked a win on the road without playing well for long periods
+ Could’ve won by 10 goals if we kicked straight
+ continued our streak in Victoria

- that first half
- Vardy is a shadow of himself
- Ryan also kicked 1.4
- 8 behinds in a quarter with the game on the line
- my multi didn’t come off
- Allen needs a rest
- entry i50 was deplorable for most of the night


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Mr Casson

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I'll take them even if they come like that. We're grinding away playing at a fraction of our best. The cavalry is coming.

As for tonight:

+ Didn't lose by 10 goals
+ Umps gave us a good run
+ Venables getting involved. Was gassed in the 1st qtr so fought out the game pretty well.

- Sheed bombing away without looking too mamy times to count
- Allen's contested marking has left him. Kept running under the ball.
 

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+ Ryan and Venables best games of their years.
Tick off another win
Still not at our best

- No where near our best still but slowly getting closer
Key forwards weren’t great overall except one or two moments
I thought Waterman ball in hand was poor, but I’m willing to give him another week, considering his lack of continuity
 

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Cripps was really good, one of our best on the ground. His tackling is back on song and when he had the ball he wasn't giving off stupid rushed handballs, he held the ball in his palm, players peeled off to cover receivers and then he went about his business finding the best target.

I thought Shuey was better than Sheed with the ball in hand but both played good games. If Sheed can stop kicking balls out of the air for no reason it would be much appreciated. Shuey's ball use was a level above everyone else on the team.

Venables looked way better! The kid can tackle anyone on the field at any given time, he's got vice like grip and strength. He only played 67% TOG but he looked way more involved, I love having him apply pressure, his offensive work is a bonus if he can get 15-18 touches a game.

Ryan had a very good game except for his finishing, he put in on offence and defence with some hard running both ways. His leap is incredible to see and he timed his jumps very well tonight.

Darling had a quiet game but I thought he was actually very good, two weeks in a row he has been in the right headspace. JK had 4 tackles which is good to see from your FF on an off night he still kicks 2 goals 2.

Gaff's last two weeks have been chalk and cheese from the first two weeks. His ball use has gone through the roof.

Waterman should be given another chance, I say that as someone who isn't his biggest advocate in general but I feel like he can and will help the forwards get more space.

Didn't really think Duggan was that bd at all. I thought he was all over the ground and provided a very tough contest in the air everywhere he went.


Negative:

Players still haven't got the collective vibe of when they're under pressure and when they're not. People like Shuey have it naturally, some players are still too prone to throw it on the boot without looking. Throwing it on the boot is sometimes a good option, but the players need to look first so they can at least aim for advantage side. It makes a world of difference for Darling and JK and only take about half a second.

The finishing was putrid at the end there as well.
 

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+ Dominated most of the last quarter in general play.

- Lost our last quarter.

StKilda gave us more grief last year in Perth.


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Off your game tonight Eagles board.

+
Liam Ryan.
Sheed and Gaff move was made, to great affect.
I actually thought Vardy went ok in the ruck. Still want Hickey back.
Venables had a better night.
Waterman wasn't worse than Masten.
We won away against a rival top 8 team.

-
JK and JD, wtf happened tonight?
Cole, Duggan, Schofield & Jetta were average.
Petrol was against quiet other than two goals.
8 behinds at the end.
Yep Cole and Duggan need to lift their game, especially Cole, who was dreadful tonight, and has been for some weeks. I think Rotham would be better atm.
 

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Positives- our midfield looked much much better and Yeo is back near his best
Ryan's marking
Venners coming good. Some great marks too.
JKs last 2min of the 3rd.
We actually had a crack for most of the game bar the 20min before half time.
Vardys rucking was solid.

Negatives- 2nd quarter
-Out of bounds on the full!

Ryan's goal kicking
Entire Teams goal kicking in the last
Channel 7 commentary. They actually said "go Saints" with about 1.30 on the clock . Some of the most biased commentary I can remember.
 

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Banking another win is a positive, especially on the road. I think we look fitter each week which is pleasing.

DV had a considerably better game this week. Nice to see him hit the scoreboard.

Thought our forwards as a collective have been much better defensively. Darling wasn’t prolific but it’s noticeable how much his pressured tonight and got others into the game. When he’s pressuring well that he’s getting back to the form we know he can play.
We just needed to nail ONE of those first few behinds and we would have shut the door. Yes Duggan hit the post with one, Yeos was from a fair way out on the snap and Ryans weren’t guarantees. But one of those goes through and we would have broken the flood gates. We need to soon enough with one of these games to get our percentage back on track. But on the other hand, we keep winning and that won’t be an issue soon enough.
 

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Just keep in mind they kicked a banana under pressure from the goal line and later a snap under a lot of pressure from the boundary, while we had Yeo kick OOBOTF under no pressure and about 5 or 6 very simple set shots go through as behinds.
 

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Watched the first half actively and then had to watch the second half with guests, so not as engaged as I normally would want to be.

From what I saw:
+ Liam Ryan was full of run and intent
+ JK’s little one minute bitch slap
+ Hurn elite
+ Venables took some big contested marks
+ A win’s a win in 2019

- Letting that lead slip away, pretty disappointing
- Some seriously strange forward structure again.

More to come when i actually get to watch it properly.
 
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+ A couple of times we got some fluid movement from back line to deep forward without the Saints even looking like getting a touch on it. Still not happening as often as last year but good to see glimpses that it may be returning.
 
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