Prediction Possible pick swaps

[Oscarman]

Geelong trading 14 and 17 for 8 would be more likely.

 

[briztoon]

2 & 15 for 3 & 8.

Explain to me why that is “laugh in face” worthy? Suns shift down one pick (2 to 3) but jump up seven picks (15 to 8). On pure draft points the Suns are ahead in that trade.

Pure_Ownage & year of the cat pretty much covered everything.

 

[GatesOfHell]

You are severely underestimating the retention help of them taking 2 best mates imo.

They’ll retain players when they win football games. The best mates thing is overblown.

 

[year of the cat]

Geelong trading 14 and 17 for 8 would be more likely.

Doubt we’d do that for 8 in this draft. Possibly 14 and 24? Or 14 plus next years first tied to WC?

 

[Peel67skin]

They’ll retain players when they win football games. The best mates thing is overblown.

I kind of agree, if GCS had pick 1 and 3, I would pick Anderson at 1 and bid green at 3 if Melbourne take Rowell. Swallow and Florini is like a mini version of Oliver and Brayshaw. Ainsworth, Rankine same height as Rowell can spend some time in midfield too.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

I don't think port need 29. We just need to keep some spots open to use our late picks for matching mead. We might want to upgrade 12 or 18? More likely a future second. Any clubs after pick 29?

 

[Thetrader15]

You are severely underestimating the retention help of them taking 2 best mates imo.

Or this is being over rated...

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Or this is being over rated...

Not for GC it isn't. They would have sold this to Ben King too no doubt. You take the two best kids and be done with it. The gap between those two and the next lot is a fair bit.

 

[Thetrader15]

Not for GC it isn't. They would have sold this to Ben King too no doubt. You take the two best kids and be done with it. The gap between those two and the next lot is a fair bit.

If the best friend thing is so important, surely the twin brother thing is even more important

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If the best friend thing is so important, surely the twin brother thing is even more important

They can do that next year when they have a top 3 pick plus pick 11, plus an early enough second. They are taking the best two talents in the draft and it literally is by a mile too. The gap between the top 2 and the others from 4-15 is huge (I'll put Green as 3rd but he's unavailable anyway)

 

[Mego Red]

If the best friend thing is so important, surely the twin brother thing is even more important

Clubs are defined by the closeness of their playing group and loyalty to each other. Getting best friends in is a great start. Better than brothers, who often want to get out of the shadow of each other.

 

[smurfin]

I don't think port need 29. We just need to keep some spots open to use our late picks for matching mead. We might want to upgrade 12 or 18? More likely a future second. Any clubs after pick 29?

Swap with Richmond for 2 picks around 38 ~ 40.
Gives you at least 200 extra points.

 

[raffrox]

I reckon we should keep this thread going 365 days of the year.

I thought the threads doing trade week were circle work...

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Swap with Richmond for 2 picks around 38 ~ 40.
Gives you at least 200 extra points.

In isolation it's a good trade for us. The problem is that we probably have too many late picks already. We would probably lose the late picks (points) on draft night due to a lack of spots on the list. (We had 40 on the main list this year)

 

[TryAnHit]

They can do that next year when they have a top 3 pick plus pick 11, plus an early enough second. They are taking the best two talents in the draft and it literally is by a mile too. The gap between the top 2 and the others from 4-15 is huge (I'll put Green as 3rd but he's unavailable anyway)

Suns could prob get green if they wanted. Just nominate him pick 1... would prob cost gws every pick next 2 years to match

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Suns could prob get green if they wanted. Just nominate him pick 1... would prob cost gws every pick next 2 years to match

Anderson and Rowell are better talents

 

[hilly]

Bear with me but I wonder if this could work:

GWS gain picks 47 and 50 from NM (combined draft points of 589)
NM gain picks 40 and either 59 or 60 (less combined points than above)

 

[Prochard123]

Was mentioned a few times by Pies recruiter that we're looking for a 1st round pick from this year's draft. Can't think of any way of getting 1 at this stage except to trade our 1st next year.

Perhaps we could do 2020 1st for pick 15 from GC?

They evidently only one top end talent given they're targeting top 10 picks. Our 1st next year probably gives them more to work with to get a higher pick in this year's draft or next year's draft given the versatility for any club wanting a pick next year and the potential of us falling further down the ladder.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Was mentioned a few times by Pies recruiter that we're looking for a 1st round pick from this year's draft. Can't think of any way of getting 1 at this stage except to trade our 1st next year.

Perhaps we could do 2020 1st for pick 15 from GC?

They evidently only one top end talent given they're targeting top 10 picks. Our 1st next year probably gives them more to work with to get a higher pick in this year's draft or next year's draft given the versatility for any club wanting a pick next year and the potential of us falling further down the ladder.

Why would GC trade pick 15 this year for a WORSE pick in a compromised draft next year? That literally makes no sense from GC's standpoint. It's likely your first next year is pick 15 and that doesn't include the 10+ highly rated Academy, Father Son and NGA selections next year.

You'd need to add a lot more than your future first, which would be closer to pick 23-26 next year.

 

[Prochard123]

Why would GC trade pick 15 this year for a WORSE pick in a compromised draft next year? That literally makes no sense from GC's standpoint. It's likely your first next year is pick 15 and that doesn't include the 10+ highly rated Academy, Father Son and NGA selections next year.

You'd need to add a lot more than your future first, which would be closer to pick 23-26 next year.

Well part of the reasons you mentioned why GC shouldn't do the deal exist for a reason, there needs to be something in it for us too...

However it's clear that GC is under the impression that the quality of the draft falls off sharply after the top 10, a future pick gives GC a lot more flexibility than picking someone they don't necessarily rate at 15 (obviously speculation at this stage).

Also how can you just say that our first pick will be around 15? Look I'm glad you rate us so highly, but 3 seasons in a row top 4?.. Even I don't have such expectations. Most of us locked in Melbourne for top 4 this season, which is why GC wanted pick 6 in the previous draft not Melbourne's 1st rounder this year how did that turn out? Melbourne's 2019 1st rounder probably wasn't even considered.

 

[Bollox]

Syd 5+32 > Melb 3

Melb 5+8+32
Syd 3+25+44

If Melb want, they can then do 8 for Geelongs 14 and 24

So Dees can easily turn 3+8into 5+14+24+32 if they so choose with their draft preferences. Just another option for them.

Tom Greene more than happy to be drafted by Sydney across town. GWS can work for him if they want him.

Syd 3+25+44
Melb 5+14+24+32
Geel 8+17+36

I'd guess Geelong only too happy to pay overs for a top 10. Use some of that overs they got for Kelly.
Same with Sydney paying overs for the pick 3
Dees turn 2 picks into 2x1sts and 2x2nds, and retain a top 5

 

[Crow till I die]

Syd 5+32 > Melb 3

Melb 5+8+32
Syd 3+25+40

If Melb want, they can then do 8 for Geelongs 14 and 17
Giving them
5+14+17+32

So Dees can easily turn 5+8 into
5=14=17=32 if they so choose with their draft preferences.

Tom Greene more than happy to be drafted by Sydney across town. GWS can work for him if they want him.

Why?. Won't sydney get a player they want at 5. Stupid to cough up pick 32 which could still net a good player for no huge gain

 

[Bollox]

Why?. Won't sydney get a player they want at 5. Stupid to cough up pick 32 which could still net a good player for no huge gain

Big difference between having the first live pick that can be used for Greene, and pick 5.
Dont care about pick 32. To me this draft is all about the top 3.
We rarely finish this low. May not again for awhile. Max it out.

If I thought either 1 or 2 was available I'd go for them instead.
That's just me. Not others. I dont care about slight overs and unders. Much rather pick out the player i want.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Syd 5+32 > Melb 3

Melb 5+8+32
Syd 3+25+44

If Melb want, they can then do 8 for Geelongs 14 and 24

So Dees can easily turn 3+8into 5+14+24+32 if they so choose with their draft preferences. Just another option for them.

Tom Greene more than happy to be drafted by Sydney across town. GWS can work for him if they want him.

Syd 3+25+44
Melb 5+14+24+32
Geel 8+17+36

I'd guess Geelong only too happy to pay overs for a top 10. Use some of that overs they got for Kelly.
Same with Sydney paying overs for the pick 3
Dees turn 2 picks into 2x1sts and 2x2nds, and retain a top 5

We have moved up for zero reason. GWS will just match the bid- and we've given a decent second rounder away...

 

[Crow till I die]

We have moved up for zero reason. GWS will just match the bid- and we've given a decent second rounder away...

I thought exactly the same thing, unless he was thinking by getting pick 3, Sydney could then hold GWS to ransom by threatening to bid on Green at 3..but if so, why wouldn't Melbourne save themselves the trouble of trading with Sydney and just use the same tactic against GWS themselves?