List Mgmt. Possible trades for 2016

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Its clear as day its the midfield that needs work. Thompson has been good this year but last night was horrid, think the end is coming. Douglas has also been disappointing.
Sloane, M.Crouch, B.Crouch, Smith are the only locks for next season, and thats concerning. Add in a Heppell or Neale etc and its much better and will give what is a decent defence a chance to hold their own.
Seedsman, Milera, Laird pushing up from defence and Lynch from forward line are good linking options along with Atkins.

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Brown Hartigan Lever
Laird Talia Hampton
Smith M.Crouch Atkins
Jacobs Heppell Sloane
Lynch Walker Cameron
Betts Jenkins McGovern
Milera B.Crouch Seedsman

Rest from Lyons, Beech, Knight, Cheney, Douglas, Doedee, Menzel, Gore, Otten, Wigg, Henderson
 

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From just how good is 2016 draft thread:

The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking we really need to get Jonty Scharenberg. Seriously, he sounds exactly like what we are lacking...

10. Jonty Scharenberg (SA)
Best position:
Inside midfield
Height, weight: 185cm, 77kg
Recruited from: Glenelg
Plays like: Callan Ward
Projected draft range: First to second round
Profile: Highly productive inside midfielder with strong contested ball winning ability, Scharenberg wins clearances and gains first possession regularly, can dish a quick handball in traffic to open teammates, find space in traffic and tackles strongly through the midfield. He also finds a good balance of contested and uncontested possessions. The brother of Collingwood's Matthew at times has proven a threat forward of centre, running into space, taking some strong marks and offering some scoreboard impact. Skill level by hand and foot is good. Athletically Scharenberg is only average, with no freakish attributes but he has an overall good workrate, covers the ground well, spreads from stoppages and provides some overlap run. Scharenberg would benefit from making his weapons more pronounced, taking his inside game from very good to dominant and taking his play forward of centre up another level, but overall he offers a well-rounded game through the midfield, projecting to be a valuable component to a midfield going forward.

SA too. I know we need to develop him, but imagine a midfield of Atkins, Milera, Sloane, Brouch, Mrouch and Scharenberg? Make it happen AFC. Not saying we shouldn't chase Neale (although I'm not as desperate to get him now as I was), but Schara would be a brilliant get. As would many others in this draft, for that matter.
 

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I still think the move for Neale is to offer up a 2017 1st to Freo, which they can offer to GWS for McCarthy.

I think GWS will want the points for that year.
 

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We have a midfield full of deckchairs. It's been widely known for a long time, but we've steadfastly refused to do much of anything about it, spending a litany of high picks on an ever growing number of key and third defenders.

How many first round draft picks does a team actually need in defense? Talia, Lever, Smith, Brown playing every week, plus Doedee. Mean time our midfield has a single solitary first round pick in it, 33 year old Scott Thompson. Our list management has been idiotic.
 

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We have a midfield full of deckchairs. It's been widely known for a long time, but we've steadfastly refused to do much of anything about it, spending a litany of high picks on an ever growing number of key and third defenders.

How many first round draft picks does a team actually need in defense? Talia, Lever, Smith, Brown playing every week, plus Doedee. Mean time our midfield has a single solitary first round pick in it, 33 year old Scott Thompson. Our list management has been idiotic.
Dangerfield? Douglas? Brouch, if we're counting Brown? Milera?
 

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We have a midfield full of deckchairs. It's been widely known for a long time, but we've steadfastly refused to do much of anything about it, spending a litany of high picks on an ever growing number of key and third defenders.

How many first round draft picks does a team actually need in defense? Talia, Lever, Smith, Brown playing every week, plus Doedee. Mean time our midfield has a single solitary first round pick in it, 33 year old Scott Thompson. Our list management has been idiotic.
If you count Luke Brown as a first round pick you have to count Brad Crouch, a midfielder, as a first round pick.

Also Douglas and Milera were first round selections. We had Dangerfield until he left.
 

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Dangerfield? Douglas? Brouch, if we're counting Brown? Milera?
If you count Luke Brown as a first round pick you have to count Brad Crouch, a midfielder, as a first round pick.

Also Douglas and Milera were first round selections. We had Dangerfield until he left.
Brad Crouch yes, forgot about Douglas it's been so long, Milera hasn't played a single game in the midfield, and Dangerfield walked out.

We've still vastly overspent on our defence, and it's been obvious for a long time - 5 first round selections for defenders since 2009, compared to 5 first round selections in the most important area of the ground, only 2 of which occurred during the same time frame, one of whom is yet to play a game in the middle. Bad management.
 

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Brad Crouch yes, forgot about Douglas it's been so long, Milera hasn't played a single game in the midfield, and Dangerfield walked out.

We've still vastly overspent on our defence, and it's been obvious for a long time - 5 first round selections for defenders since 2009, compared to 5 first round selections in the most important area of the ground, only 3 of which occurred during the same time frame. Bad management.
Where do you think Milera is going to end up.
 

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Where do you think Milera is going to end up.
That's real nice and all that he could end up the second one alongside Brad Crouch with Thompson retired, but it doesn't change the blatantly obvious fact that we've been spending too many picks on the defence, when our midfield has been, still is, and still will be for another couple years, desperately crying out for that sort of talent.
 

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That's real nice and all that he could end up the second one alongside Brad Crouch with Thompson retired, but it doesn't change the blatantly obvious fact that we've been spending too many picks on the defence, when our midfield has been, still is, and still will be for another couple years, desperately crying out for that sort of talent.
Completely agree with you and if it's not adressed in this draft/trade/free agency period I'm going to start getting annoyed.
 

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People have been suggesting we be the ones to go for Deledio with the first round pick Richmond needs to rebuild, but I say nuts to that, he's too old and injury prone.

Should offer them that pick for Cotchin instead. The man is talent and class, but he's collapsed under the strain of being forced into the leadership role of a club with no leaders at all, despite having no leadership skills himself. Put him in our midfield, where Walker and Sloane mean he doesn't ever have to think about leadership again, and could just concentrate on his own game, and I think he could return to his best, or better.

It's not as long term as picking up Neale, or one of the 20-22 year old GWS stars, but he's got enough years left for it to be worthwhile - he's only a month older than Sloane after all. Probably a pipe dream though.
 
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That's real nice and all that he could end up the second one alongside Brad Crouch with Thompson retired, but it doesn't change the blatantly obvious fact that we've been spending too many picks on the defence, when our midfield has been, still is, and still will be for another couple years, desperately crying out for that sort of talent.
The fact of the matter is, in the first round you always need to go for the best available.

Otherwise we'd have Kane Lucas instead of Daniel talia.
 

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The fact of the matter is, in the first round you always need to go for the best available.

Otherwise we'd have Kane Lucas instead of Daniel talia.
Lewis Jetta most likely, though using memory and looking at the draft Daniel Menzel and Luke Tapscott are also possible. Lucas was another odd Carlton selection.

And best available is only really important if there's a huge gulf between the two players in question. If you can throw a blanket over them, then needs must become an important tie breaker.
 

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I'd take any of Kelly, Shiel, Greene, Whitfield, Scully, Coniglio, but I think GWS are just about done bleeding players.
Jack Steele would do me and might just be procurable, and a Canberra district kid unlike the others who are mostly Victorians and far more established talents at this stage...kid will be very, very good, good blend of inside/outside, best tackler at the GWS and as hard as a cat's head. Kristof mentioned Brett Anderson has him on the move at the end of the season.
 

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Winning is a miraculous cure for homesickness, I don't think they're going to lose handfuls of players they want to keep anymore. We kind of stood idly by while everyone else picked up all the warships and speedboats for a song, then finally realised there was a sale on and only managed to find a little punt on the quay 5 minutes before closing.
 

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Jack Steele would do me and might just be procurable, and a Canberra district kid unlike the others who are mostly Victorians and far more established talents at this stage...kid will be very, very good, good blend of inside/outside, best tackler at the GWS and as hard as a cat's head. Kristof mentioned Brett Anderson has him on the move at the end of the season.
If there's a bidding war for Steele he'd go for a top 5-10 pick. Easily. Was very highly rated.
 

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Jack Steele would do me and might just be procurable, and a Canberra district kid unlike the others who are mostly Victorians and far more established talents at this stage...kid will be very, very good, good blend of inside/outside, best tackler at the GWS and as hard as a cat's head. Kristof mentioned Brett Anderson has him on the move at the end of the season.
Any day of the week. If we could get away with offering our 2017 first rounder and keep this one then that would be an excellent result.
 

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We have a midfield full of deckchairs. It's been widely known for a long time, but we've steadfastly refused to do much of anything about it, spending a litany of high picks on an ever growing number of key and third defenders.

How many first round draft picks does a team actually need in defense? Talia, Lever, Smith, Brown playing every week, plus Doedee. Mean time our midfield has a single solitary first round pick in it, 33 year old Scott Thompson. Our list management has been idiotic.
Could be wrong but Smith was likely drafted with the view of eventually playing as a midfielder; hasn't turned out that way but it would not have been an unreasonable expectation.

Cheating to keep Tippett and denying ourselves the chance to draft Cripps is the big sin, meekly allowing tackling bull Jack Redden to be wooed by West Coast when we'd just lost Patrick flipping Dangerfield and using the pick that would have pipped the Eagles on a speculative medium defender is up there too. Particularly when West Coast have an abundance of similar types and we have no one that tackles apart from Sloane.
 
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