Mega Thread Possible trades in 2015 for the Crows

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Dude just stop now.

Menzel is in another universe to Kerridge. Kerridge is just a hard working athlete, he's not as skilled as you are talking him up to be and does not have the poise, the silky-ness or the class of a player like Menzel.

It's like trying to compare Stevie J and Joel Corey for example. Both great players and no knock on Corey for the player he was, but Stevie J is just a freak of nature.
Don't think he is as good as you are talking him up to be. Besides, he is a small/medium forward. Do we have a need for him? Who would he displace? Does he have scope for midfield? I'd only consider him if he came cheap.
 

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Don't think he is as good as you are talking him up to be. Besides, he is a small/medium forward. Do we have a need for him? Who would he displace? Does he have scope for midfield? I'd only consider him if he came cheap.
I'm not necessarily saying we have a need for him, but Menzel's potential is right up there don't worry, he is just one of those guys with freakish talent. It's only been tip of the ice berg stuff right now from him. Coming off a wrecked knee and then playing for a rabble club where he has constantly been unsettled and wanting to leave, don't expect to see too much.

And yes he has scope for midfield. But if we did get him, as another poster has said he would round out our forward 6 nicely alongside Tex, Jj, Lynch, Eddie and Cameron. Has that ability to take a mark on the lead like a genuine forward but also has freakish skills similar to a crumbling small.

Again as someone said, think Wingard, but I think Menzel could be even better than Chad. Big call I know, but the kid has talent.

Pretty sure he was meant to go very high up in the draft, but based on both he and his brothers knee trouble a lot of clubs steered clear.
 

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Id take Osborne as a normal Rookie.

What makes you so sure its Adelaide hes going to? sounds like Collingwood are interested too.
Must have been a good offer to get him out of basketball, or he just didn't want it anymore since he didn't get drafted into the NBA. He tried out with the Utah Jazz, but didn't get anywhere. He could make decent money if he wanted to go off to Europe to play ball.

Was supposedly highly rated as a 16 year old, but ended up quitting footy to go into basketball full time.
 

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So if you do freakish stuff that only 1% of players can do you're automatically a better player? That's horrible logic...

That's like comparing Burton because he could sit on blokes shoulders to Edwards. Stop living in a reality world, I'm not saying Menzel won't be better but the bloke at the beginning said he'd trade the two in a straight swap in a heartbeat and that's just complete stupidity "dude just stop".
I'd trade Kerridge for Yarran heartbeat.

I'd trade Kerridge for Menzel in a nano second, end of.

Again, no knock on Kerridge, will be happy if he stays. But he's a relatively stock standard player. Talents like Menzel and Yarran don't come along this often, let alone potentially this cheap.
 

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I'd trade Kerridge for Yarran heartbeat.

I'd trade Kerridge for Menzel in a nano second, end of.

Again, no knock on Kerridge, will be happy if he stays. But he's a relatively stock standard player. Talents like Menzel and Yarran don't come along this often, let alone potentially this cheap.
His endurance when fully fit is elite, that's one facet he is definitely not stock standard, his disposal by foot is pretty bloody good too.....his main problem is getting fit and staying injury free.
 

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I'm not necessarily saying we have a need for him, but Menzel's potential is right up there don't worry, he is just one of those guys with freakish talent. It's only been tip of the ice berg stuff right now from him. Coming off a wrecked knee and then playing for a rabble club where he has constantly been unsettled and wanting to leave, don't expect to see too much.

And yes he has scope for midfield. But if we did get him, as another poster has said he would round out our forward 6 nicely alongside Tex, Jj, Lynch, Eddie and Cameron. Has that ability to take a mark on the lead like a genuine forward but also has freakish skills similar to a crumbling small.

Again as someone said, think Wingard, but I think Menzel could be even better than Chad. Big call I know, but the kid has talent.

Pretty sure he was meant to go very high up in the draft, but based on both he and his brothers knee trouble a lot of clubs steered clear.
He could probably be that LeCras/Wingard type in our forward line and probably wouldn't disrupt the balance too much. My concerns are his history of injuries and the assets we would have to forfeit to obtain him, especially considering our forward line is operating smoothly ATM as it is. I would much rather pursue other options that address real weaknesses (outside speed, key defender) and persist with guys like McGovern and Ramsey who could play a similar role.

Having said all that I would trade Kerridge for him in a heartbeat but the very idea of that happening is ludicrous because Carlton would never go for it.
 

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His endurance when fully fit is elite, that's one facet he is definitely not stock standard, his disposal by foot is pretty bloody good too.....his main problem is getting fit and staying injury free.
Everyone always talks about how good is his disposal is and how he can kick these absolute daisy cutters, which he can.... Maybe once or twice a match. But then he just spends the rest of his time kicking it over his targets head and them doubling back and have to chase his "great disposal."

It's always over their head, never falls short. I'm sorry but he does this way too often for me to classify him as a great user of the footy, not in comparison to the 2 blues boys anyways.
 

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He could probably be that LeCras/Wingard type in our forward line and probably wouldn't disrupt the balance too much. My concerns are his history of injuries and the assets we would have to forfeit to obtain him, especially considering our forward line is operating smoothly ATM as it is. I would much rather pursue other options that address real weaknesses (outside speed, key defender) and persist with guys like McGovern and Ramsey who could play a similar role.

Having said all that I would trade Kerridge for him in a heartbeat but the very idea of that happening is ludicrous because Carlton would never go for it.
Agree completely.

Menzel is very a enticing prospect, but right now id much rather use Kerridge in some sort of Yarran trade if Carlton are interested or for a high pick which could get a Motlop/Shaz/Aish/Carlisle.
 

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No. Your opinion is biased. It is by definition biased to your way of thinking.

Every opinion is biased.

The only thing unbiased is "fact" and there is not enough exposed form at AFL level to establish any fact.

His opinion is biased.

So is yours.
Whoa.

You know how to cut to the core of me, Mattrox. You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha covered in hair.


Another #mindblown Mattrox moment
 

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I'd trade Kerridge for Yarran heartbeat.

I'd trade Kerridge for Menzel in a nano second, end of.

Again, no knock on Kerridge, will be happy if he stays. But he's a relatively stock standard player. Talents like Menzel and Yarran don't come along this often, let alone potentially this cheap.
How will Yarran and Menzel.come cheap?

Both are contracted players, Carlton will state that they are required and regardless of being dropped both have obvious talents

They will not come cheap, Carlton's strategy is to load up on high picks and that's what they will be demanding
 

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Hi Bigfooty, I'm Sanders. I am the only person in the history of the world to have an obective opinion. Oh, I'm also always right. My other talents include walking on water, turning water into wine and making perfectly seasoned fried chicken. I'm pretty good, just ask me.
 

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Bounce, you mean the tramamoline place? I skimmed it as "centre bounce" and thought wouldn't the club have noticed him ******* around out on the field?
 
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How will Yarran and Menzel.come cheap?

Both are contracted players, Carlton will state that they are required and regardless of being dropped both have obvious talents

They will not come cheap, Carlton's strategy is to load up on high picks and that's what they will be demanding
Yarran & Carlton have effectively agreed to part ways.

IMO he is gettable for a player or perhaps a 3-way trade.

I would be hanging on to Kerridge as he is a utility with elite endurance & good skills.

We should be off loading an inside midfielder (assuming Dangerfield stays).

Menzel would be handy, but IMO is not of need, unless we are trading out a Lynch type.
 

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So if you do freakish stuff that only 1% of players can do you're automatically a better player? That's horrible logic...

That's like comparing Burton because he could sit on blokes shoulders to Edwards. Stop living in a reality world, I'm not saying Menzel won't be better but the bloke at the beginning said he'd trade the two in a straight swap in a heartbeat and that's just complete stupidity "dude just stop".
Dude shut up with your Kerridge stuff.
We get it you think hes a gun...he runs hard but cant kick.

Menzel is a far better prospect, take your blue red and gold glasses off.
 
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