I highly doubt VB, MacKay would get games at Carlton, GWS, turnover merchants, to make the finals carrying these two for the majority of the year is a feat in itself.
VB finished 26th in the B&F only beating players that were subs, he's simply not best 22 in our club, MacKay the same.
Also Matthew Wright played the first 18 games this year too, amazing.. Unbelievable, I can't wait to look for the future.