Potential Draftee Watch - Version 2008

[thejester]

I'd be going for Tom Swift. Taylor's performances on the likes of Roughead and Riewoldt demonstrate that in the short term our tall defensive unit is fine. While I still think we need to draft another good tall defender in the next year or two, this may have slipped down the priority list somewhat.

At the moment the more pressing need is pace in the midfield. Our core 18 does not feature a single player with pace, and those on the fringes are either on their last legs (Woja, Byrnes) or only average players (Djerrkura, Varcoe). At 190cm Swift will be a bitch to match up on, has plenty of toe and has shown previously he can get the footy. While I think the lack of pace in our midfield wasn't the primary reason we lost the GF, it's an area we need to address.

As for tall players...I think there'll be a few floating around. You'd expect guys like Milne, Post, Jones and Schoenmaker would all last to our pick.

 

[Vegas.]

At the moment the more pressing need is pace in the midfield. Our core 18 does not feature a single player with pace

Hate to be pedantic, but GAJ has a bit of pace, and more importantly he knows how to use it.

 

[geelong_boy]

Hate to be pedantic, but GAJ has a bit of pace, and more importantly he knows how to use it.

True, and we'll probably see more of Varcoe in the guts in '09, while Hogan should get time in the middle early next year too.

Djerkurra is probably another who could eventually play in the midfield.

 

[Budda 230]

How would you approach our first pick if you were Stephen Wells/Bomber?

Tall or short? Best available or by need?

Last year we clearly went on a needs basis drafting Harry Taylor. He may however end up being in the top 10-15 in that draft for talent as well.

My feeling at this stage is to go for either one of Trengove/Johnston/McKernan if one is available at pick 15. If all are gone then go for best available. I do think though we should go tall if we can.

Then our subsequent picks can be mid sized running players.

I reckon all the good talls will be gone by our second pick. Even Schoenmaker (sp?) is likely to be gone by then but I'm not sure if he "deserves" a pick 15 being used on him.

Thoughts?

Yeah, I've got the same gut feeling in regards to Johnston, Trengove and McKernan. I'd be happy with any of those three, eventhough I rate Johnston and Trengove higher than McKernan. I'm starting to think that McKernan may end up being the man.

If those 3 are already selected by our pick, you'd expect one of the gun midfielders to have slipped to us. If that is the way it pans out, lets hope it is one of the speedy players for our sake.

Cornelius is one who isn't too highly rated on bigfooty. I've got a feeling he is rated higher in the real world and I wouldn't be surprised if he is short listed by Geelong. He is a very good contested mark and could be the forward target Wells and Geelong have their sights on. But who really knows?

 

[geelong_boy]

A poster named Norman Ross has done a phantom draft on the Brisbane board, and this is what he's had to say about Aaron Cornelius:

"If Cornelius had been wearing a Vic Metro Jumper, he'd be talked about in the top 10. I think he is seriously underrated, he reminds me of a young Brad Smith, who could have been anything had he not taken off up North and then do both his knees.

Reads the flight of the ball so well."



Here's the link for the thread: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510898

 

[bashar]

Who to pick up in the draft

requirement: 1 HBF, 1 - 2 KPP, 1 Utility, 1 pure midfielder

First and foremost I think that pick 15 will be either used on securing Tom Swift or Jackson Trengrove either of which will make me very very happy, I think there’s less risk with trengrove and he seems to fit our needs more, having said that swift could be the coup of the draft. Both should slide to our pick and it will be interesting on who will we pull the trigger on, in the event that both are gone prior to our pick means we can end up with one of the unclaimed safe-bets.
pick 33, and 39 are too far down to have a stab however I wouldn’t mind if the club considered Nick Suban, Matt Debour, Lewis Johnston, Ryan Schoenmakers, Aaron Cornelius, Tom Lynch and maybe a local boy in Jordan Jones.
If our NSW scholar - ranga, doesn’t want the rookie position, then take him with 49 which would make a great draft.
Either way what’s everyone’s thought of the players mentioned, and what’s the likelihood that these players last to pick 33 and 39?

 

[El Segundo]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

Have been surprised it has taken so long to get a thread like this up and running. Most club boards already have one...

Nevertheless, having gone tall last year, we need some more midfieldersfor mine. Maybe 3 midfielders and 1 tall. (No more rucks please)

And, when I look at the mids who could potentially get to us, the one who stands out is Swift. Its seems like nobody really knows where he is going to get picked, but if he was available, he would be my man.

 

[Barabbas]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

Have been surprised it has taken so long to get a thread like this up and running. Most club boards already have one...

Nevertheless, having gone tall last year, we need some more midfieldersfor mine. Maybe 3 midfielders and 1 tall. (No more rucks please)

And, when I look at the mids who could potentially get to us, the one who stands out is Swift. Its seems like nobody really knows where he is going to get picked, but if he was available, he would be my man.

It's in Cat Scan, it's 17 pages of up and running.

 

[Whit3y]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

need forwards, end of story

 

[moond0g]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

requirement: 1 HBF, 1 - 2 KPP, 1 Utility, 1 pure midfielder

First and foremost I think that pick 15 will be either used on securing Tom Swift or Jackson Trengrove either of which will make me very very happy, I think there’s less risk with trengrove and he seems to fit our needs more, having said that swift could be the coup of the draft. Both should slide to our pick and it will be interesting on who will we pull the trigger on, in the event that both are gone prior to our pick means we can end up with one of the unclaimed safe-bets.
pick 33, and 39 are too far down to have a stab however I wouldn’t mind if the club considered Nick Suban, Matt Debour, Lewis Johnston, Ryan Schoenmakers, Aaron Cornelius, Tom Lynch and maybe a local boy in Jordan Jones.
If our NSW scholar - ranga, doesn’t want the rookie position, then take him with 49 which would make a great draft.
Either way what’s everyone’s thought of the players mentioned, and what’s the likelihood that these players last to pick 33 and 39?

honestly i reckon some of thos names sound good but i doubt tmany of them will be there by our picks... swift will be gone by 15 i think, and maybe trengrove to, possible he'll be ther though.

then 33 and 39, lewis johnston will all but certainly be gone... then cornelius prob too, others will be around the mark.

most phantoms have johnston going in the first round somewhere or early second... and its possible we might end up with cornelius but with our first pick not our second.

if we can somehow end up with swift at 15, cornelius at 33 and a nick suban or shoenmakers at 39, then someone else at 49 and ranga as well i'd be a very happy man

 

[AM]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

I know Stephen Wells has spoken to Taylor Gilchrist from Sandy Dragons. A thin, quick, tallish midfielder. So have Collingwood, Adelaide, Brisbane and (I think) St Kilda. Don't know much about him or where he sits in our pecking order.

 

[shake_and_bake]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

need forwards, end of story

why because we had one bad day?? we were the number 1 forward line in the competition overal and in most area's we were number 1 which is a good effort although our midfield complement the forward line. we need backman and key position players more than forwards.

hawkins and scott simpson were the key forwards in the vfl late last year, we may need 1 small forward but dave johnson and kane tenace will be gone after next season so there goes the small backman depth out the window, there is no one to cover the back half after those 2 go.

we dont have any key backs in reserve so we need one of those and maybe one midfielder. dont need trengove do we because i heard his a ruckman, if he can play back then get him!

luke delaney is a smokey, can play ruck and forward but i like him as a key back, 196cm and 100kg roughly he is a local boy who can play full back or chb and shut down a good forward. his big too which is what we need, i see him as a matty egan junior and even if we got him as a rookie i would be happy but he is a 19 year old.

i personally want in no order jackson trengove if he can play back, tom rockliffe as a smart small crumbing forward who can play midfield, nick suban as a small shut down backman who is also a good midfielder and maybe a mid.

 

[hamG]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

We need an explosive small forward who likes to kick goals more than get 20+ touches.

 

[The rabbi]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

need forwards, end of story

And backs for the future. Our defence is starting to get a bit long in the fang.

 

[geelong_boy]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

why because we had one bad day?? we were the number 1 forward line in the competition overal and in most area's we were number 1 which is a good effort although our midfield complement the forward line. we need backman and key position players more than forwards.

Taking a longer term view, if we continue to finish around the top of the ladder and with the entry of two new teams in the coming years there won't be many opportunities to pick up talented forwards to support Hawkins and hopefully Scott Simpson (if he makes it) over the next decade. If Lewis Johnston is available, and there's a chance he will be, surely he'll be taken with our first selection. Or maybe another tall forward that will fall to our pick. Swift and Trengrove seem likely to be snapped up before pick 15 anyway.

 

[The rabbi]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

We need an explosive small forward who likes to kick goals more than get 20+ touches.

We don't have a crummer in the forward line. A crummer would be very handy at the fall of Hawkins' contests.

I think that Gary Ablett would be ideal there, but we only have one of him.

 

[geelong_boy]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

And backs for the future. Our defence is starting to get a bit long in the fang.

True but unless Trengrove or Hurley eek were available then I'd doubt Wells would use a first round pick on a KP defender. There will be opportunities in the second/third/fourth round.

Long term if Egan makes it back we still have him and an improving Taylor as KP defenders. Scarlett is still a few years off retirement, although I agree that next year will likely be Milburn and Harley's final years.

 

[cat_fanatic]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

We don't have a crummer in the forward line. A crummer would be very handy at the fall of Hawkins' contests.

I think that Gary Ablett would be ideal there, but we only have one of him.

Varcs and Djidi will be good. Djidi is just injury prone and Varcs is taking his time developing. They have natural ability and will be important in the future IMO; hopeully sooner rather than later.

 

[geelong_boy]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

Varcs and Djidi will be good. Djidi is just injury prone and Varcs is taking his time developing. They have natural ability and will be important in the future IMO; hopeully sooner rather than later.

Varcoe seems more confortable in the midfield.

Hopefully Djidi will be given a go in that small forward role early next year.

 

[year of the cat]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

Would love to get either Trengove or Swift in the first round assuming they are both medically sound.

Trengove particularly appeals to me. He can play both forward and back and looks to have an x factor about him. Would make a great combination with Hawkins down forward or alternatively down back with Taylor/Egan.

Swift on the other hand, if he can avoid injury, would sure up our midfield for a while. He apparently has a terrific attitude and with Selwood, Ablett, Bartel and co would give us an astonishing midfield for some time.

As for our second and third picks I would use one of them on a running half back flanker such as Strauss, Smith or Broadbent. Milburn is in the last year you would think of his career so a replacement would be smart.

The other pick on a project tall or midfielder depending on how the earlier picks went.

 

[El Segundo]

Can someone who saw a bit of VFL give me the verdict on Scott Simpson & Dan McKenna.

Are we likely to get 0, 1 or 2 players from these two guys.

 

[rizzo]

Can someone who saw a bit of VFL give me the verdict on Scott Simpson & Dan McKenna.

Are we likely to get 0, 1 or 2 players from these two guys.

Scotty will be a very handy player. Great hands and leap and a decent kick at goal. Rates high in my books.

Dan, not so sure. Did what was expected of first year tall.

 

[Budda 230]

Re: Who to pick up in the draft

Would love to get either Trengove or Swift in the first round assuming they are both medically sound.

Trengove particularly appeals to me. He can play both forward and back and looks to have an x factor about him. Would make a great combination with Hawkins down forward or alternatively down back with Taylor/Egan.

Swift on the other hand, if he can avoid injury, would sure up our midfield for a while. He apparently has a terrific attitude and with Selwood, Ablett, Bartel and co would give us an astonishing midfield for some time.

As for our second and third picks I would use one of them on a running half back flanker such as Strauss, Smith or Broadbent. Milburn is in the last year you would think of his career so a replacement would be smart.

The other pick on a project tall or midfielder depending on how the earlier picks went.

I 100% agree with that. All of those players would suit our needs and be a chance to be available at our selections.

With our first pick, I've just got a feeling that we'll end up with either Swift, Trengove, Johnston or McKernan. Who ever is left available I think we'll take. If all are gone, I'd expect Cornelius to be highly considered.

You are right on the money in regards to Strauss, Smith and Broadbent for our 2nd rounder. You'd expect one to slip to pick 33. I'd be especially happy if Smith or Broadbent were taken by Geelong. These 3 won't be around for our third selection unfortunately.

Depending on whether Wells goes tall or short in the first two rounds, I'd like to think Mitch Brown is on the radar for the 3rd rounder. I saw him play a late game for Sandy and he had a real presense to him. Apparently kicked a swag of goals in the APS and could be a late gem. Jayden Post could also be an option.

The 4th rounder is a real lottery at the moment. You'd expect a decision to be made based on what needs Geelong have already claimed with the previous selections.

I'd like to see an injection of pace somewhere, but I'm struggling to pin point exactly who is the best option at each round. There tends to be other better options at every pick. I still like to think that Djerrkura is answer for the attacking, fast, crumbing, small forward role.

I'm pretty sure today is the day that a decision is lodged to the AFL about Ranga. Can someone confirm that?

 

[geelong_boy]

Scotty will be a very handy player. Great hands and leap and a decent kick at goal. Rates high in my books.

Dan, not so sure. Did what was expected of first year tall.

Scott Simpson kicked 8 goals in one match, but IIRC seemed to struggle with a knee injury in the latter half of the year.

Dan McKenna is about the same height as Simpson but much lighter, so likely to take longer to develop. He was mainly played in defence.

 

[baywatch5]

Here's my opinion on our picks


15: Swift / Trengrove

Best available option. Hearing whispers Wells very ken on Swift. Is a risk, but would love him at the club. Has Selwood written all over it. If he's gone would also be happy with Trengrove

33: Robinson / Broadbent

I believe either of these will slide. Great tall running players. Milburn / Enright types imo.

39: Pearce

Ready made small running back. Hard at it, great skills

49: S.Motlop

Tallish forward. much like his cousin Daniel. Has X factor. Good project. Will give us something different up forward.

Add to these Ranga as rookie, gives us 2 gun midfielders (Swift, Ranga), utilty back/mid (brodbent or Robinson), Small running defender (Pearce) and a project forward (Motlop)that gives spmething different than Hawkins / Lonergan / Simpson. We drafted tall last year so with these players our list is balanced and young before G17