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It's so nice that this program designed to help develop multicultural young men who might otherwise be lost to football is going to allow us to pick up *checks notes* Lachlan Jones. What part of Africa is that name from?
 
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It's so nice that this program designed to help develop multicultural young men who might otherwise be lost to football is going to allow us to pick up *checks notes* Lachlan Jones. What part of Africa is he from?
Far east Africa (Yorke Peninsula) :)
 

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From the article HH linked

The AFL also has contributed $150,000 to each club annually for the development and resources in the Academies but has not yet confirmed to clubs if that sum will return in 2021.There is a view amongst clubs that the role of the NGAs could be mixed into the restructure of second-tier competitions, which could form greater ties with under-18 clubs in Victoria.
I know AFL Media are Vic centric, but absolutely nothing about the alternative for the rest of the country

If it is changed, several clubs have called on it to be phased out over years so that players who have already signed on for Academies and are due to reach the draft in coming seasons remain tied to their clubs. At the end of last season the AFL begun reviewing slashing the 20 per cent points discount afforded to clubs who match a bid for their Academy players.
20% discount is absolute bullshit for most of these selections. If they genuinely develop someone who had a really strong League, Union, basketball etc background or a kid born O's in a Culturally and Linguistically Diverse background and ploughed significant time and resources into them, then fair enough to get a discount, but what bullshit that John Blakey's son gets a 20% discount because he trained in the Swans academy. Same with the 20% father son discount. These kids wouldn't have had that much resources ploughed into them.


The West Australian and South Australian clubs had been granted access to extended zones in their respective states, with metropolitan areas being included for their NGAs, before this season. However, as COVID-19 struck, their applications to add more players from metropolitan regions have been left on the back burner.
Once again how Vic centric is that reporting by AFL Media. NGA kids born overseas covers metro areas for all of Oz. But WA and SA clubs can only use it for indigenous kids who live in WAFL and SANFL clubs' country zones not metro Perth and Adelaide zones. That's what they were asking for changes to the rules. But the rest of Oz, metro indigenous kids qualify for the other 14 clubs' NGA.
 

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From the article HH linked



I know AFL Media are Vic centric, but absolutely nothing about the alternative for the rest of the country



20% discount is absolute bullshit for most of these selections. If they genuinely develop someone who had a really strong League, Union, basketball etc background or a kid born O's in a Culturally and Linguistically Diverse background and ploughed significant time and resources into them, then fair enough to get a discount, but what bullshit that John Blakey's son gets a 20% discount because he trained in the Swans academy. Same with the 20% father son discount. These kids wouldn't have had that much resources ploughed into them.




Once again how Vic centric is that reporting by AFL Media. NGA kids born overseas covers metro areas for all of Oz. But WA and SA clubs can only use it for indigenous kids who live in WAFL and SANFL clubs' country zones not metro Perth and Adelaide zones. That's what they were asking for changes to the rules. But the rest of Oz, metro indigenous kids qualify for the other 14 clubs' NGA.
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Not enough Victorian clubs benefiting. Will come into effect after the 2020 draft so we can still grab Lachie Jones.

If this comes into effect, surely clubs will reduce their investment in Next Gen Academies? If you've put significant time and investment in, only to not get first access to highly rated players from your academy, why would you continue to devote significant funds to it?
 

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If this comes into effect, surely clubs will reduce their investment in Next Gen Academies? If you've put significant time and investment in, only to not get first access to highly rated players from your academy, why would you continue to devote significant funds to it?
Could look at 'smokies' - those players who would always go late anyway.
 

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Have read this morning that the AFL is likely to change the rules on academy players such that if they get drafted in the first round by another club, the academy club doesn't get the right to match the bid.

If so, this means we are near certainties to miss out on Lachie Jones despite us manoeuvring through the draft last year to stockpile late picks to match the bid. Typical VFL bullshit.
 

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Have read this morning that the AFL is likely to change the rules on academy players such that if they get drafted in the first round by another club, the academy club doesn't get the right to match the bid.

If so, this means we are near certainties to miss out on Lachie Jones despite us manoeuvring through the draft last year to stockpile late picks to match the bid. Typical VFL bullshit.
I don't think it is applying to this years draft. Certainly hope not as like you said, some clubs have positioned themselves to take NGA players in the next draft.
 

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Have read this morning that the AFL is likely to change the rules on academy players such that if they get drafted in the first round by another club, the academy club doesn't get the right to match the bid.

If so, this means we are near certainties to miss out on Lachie Jones despite us manoeuvring through the draft last year to stockpile late picks to match the bid. Typical VFL bullshit.
Already posted in general AFL thread - it starts in 2021 not this year.

 

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Already posted in general AFL thread - it starts in 2021 not this year.

Good news, I stand corrected.

My info came from the SEN radio website where they said they wanted to make the changes to this upcoming draft.

Defeats the purpose of having NGAs for top prospects considering the clubs will likely not get the player anyway if they go 1st round.
 

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If this comes into effect, surely clubs will reduce their investment in Next Gen Academies? If you've put significant time and investment in, only to not get first access to highly rated players from your academy, why would you continue to devote significant funds to it?
The whole point was that the AFL will take over running the Next Gen Academies instead of the clubs. If the clubs are still involved we're just more likely to see them trying to hide kids they've discovered.
 

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If this comes into effect, surely clubs will reduce their investment in Next Gen Academies? If you've put significant time and investment in, only to not get first access to highly rated players from your academy, why would you continue to devote significant funds to it?
Some clubs. Port had NGA before we could access talent.
 

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If this comes into effect, surely clubs will reduce their investment in Next Gen Academies? If you've put significant time and investment in, only to not get first access to highly rated players from your academy, why would you continue to devote significant funds to it?
Port probably invest most of their resources into their Aboriginal Academy and we get virtually no player acquisition benefit from it.
 

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From what I can see, the NGAs have been mostly an exercise in opportunism from the clubs. I haven't heard too many stories of clubs plucking talented teenagers from other sports and turning them into AFL footballers by way of an NGA opportunity. Maybe they haven't been in place long enough, I don't know. I'm generally opposed to all forms of zoning though as it undermines equalisation and will almost always disadvantage Port as we are based in the smallest state.
 

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If this change means GWS and others can no longer finish top 4 for 5 years in a row, and every year or 2nd year give up 3 picks in the high 30's and low 40's to match a bid for a top 5 or top 10 pick, plus keep their first round pick, or use that first round pick to get a good player, then I'm all for it.

I've said before the GWS in particular can rort the NGA system because their academy includes the very strong Riverina zone.
 

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Lachie Jones playing.
 
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When you get an article on the club's website, you know they are keen.


ONE of Port Adelaide’s Next Generation Academy players has received glowing praise as a ready-made AFL player who likes to work hard and plays team-first football.

Lachie Jones, 18, who has been playing league football with Woodville-West Torrens this year, received high praise from his captain Luke Thompson during a radio interview on Thursday morning.

At 184cm and 85kgs, Jones has a strong body for a teenager.

He hails from Bute on the Yorke Peninsula and is part of Port Adelaide’s NGA owing to his Indigenous heritage and regional upbringing. Thompson said he expected Jones to be taken early in the draft, and likely by the Power. “He’s just that ready-made player that can jump straight into AFL footy because we know it’s a massive jump,” the Eagles skipper explained on Adelaide radio.

“He’s a mature body, he reminds me a lot of a (West Coast defender) Shannon Hurn the way he plays.

“He’s got that really good closing speed, take off speed, he’s a very good one-on-one competitor and he’s just got that body that’s ready to play. “He’s a great kid as well – a country boy – he’s got a good head on his shoulders, he just wants to work hard and he’s a very good team man as well.”

Jones made his SANFL debut in Round 1 and last month was named the Round 7 Powerade Breakthrough Player for the SANFL after an impressive showing against West Adelaide.

Thompson said he had no doubt Jones would have a career at AFL level. He said he was a unique character and a valuable team member at the Eagles. “You don’t often see blokes like that come through,” Thompson said. “I can’t remember the last time I saw someone like that coming through like him, as a ready-made player.

“He’s just such a relaxed character. He’s very quiet off the field, he pops up and says his two cents worth but he’s just such a relaxed character that is just a country boy, come into the city and loves playing football but just goes about his business. “He’s very workmanlike and I think at the Eagles we like to think of ourselves as a bit more blue collar than white collar and he’s just the ultimate blue collar player who gets the job done and has a laugh while he does it.”

Port Adelaide will have first access to Jones at the 2020 draft, along with father-son prospect Taj Schofield (son of 2004 Premiership player and current midfield coach Jarrad Schofield).
 

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When you get an article on the club's website, you know they are keen.


ONE of Port Adelaide’s Next Generation Academy players has received glowing praise as a ready-made AFL player who likes to work hard and plays team-first football.

Lachie Jones, 18, who has been playing league football with Woodville-West Torrens this year, received high praise from his captain Luke Thompson during a radio interview on Thursday morning.

At 184cm and 85kgs, Jones has a strong body for a teenager.

He hails from Bute on the Yorke Peninsula and is part of Port Adelaide’s NGA owing to his Indigenous heritage and regional upbringing. Thompson said he expected Jones to be taken early in the draft, and likely by the Power. “He’s just that ready-made player that can jump straight into AFL footy because we know it’s a massive jump,” the Eagles skipper explained on Adelaide radio.

“He’s a mature body, he reminds me a lot of a (West Coast defender) Shannon Hurn the way he plays.

“He’s got that really good closing speed, take off speed, he’s a very good one-on-one competitor and he’s just got that body that’s ready to play. “He’s a great kid as well – a country boy – he’s got a good head on his shoulders, he just wants to work hard and he’s a very good team man as well.”

Jones made his SANFL debut in Round 1 and last month was named the Round 7 Powerade Breakthrough Player for the SANFL after an impressive showing against West Adelaide.

Thompson said he had no doubt Jones would have a career at AFL level. He said he was a unique character and a valuable team member at the Eagles. “You don’t often see blokes like that come through,” Thompson said. “I can’t remember the last time I saw someone like that coming through like him, as a ready-made player.

“He’s just such a relaxed character. He’s very quiet off the field, he pops up and says his two cents worth but he’s just such a relaxed character that is just a country boy, come into the city and loves playing football but just goes about his business. “He’s very workmanlike and I think at the Eagles we like to think of ourselves as a bit more blue collar than white collar and he’s just the ultimate blue collar player who gets the job done and has a laugh while he does it.”

Port Adelaide will have first access to Jones at the 2020 draft, along with father-son prospect Taj Schofield (son of 2004 Premiership player and current midfield coach Jarrad Schofield).

Aha - I was wondering wtf is Luke Thompson from that post further up.
 

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