Potential training breach?

[Vhaluus]

Why wo
yep, I don't know, ends, means etc

but yeah, someone is telling lies again, but to whom we will never know.

the club.

to us.

like they have for years.

if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck.. it's a duck.

 

[Vhaluus]

Hart to miss potentially one round of footy. Six weeks suspension starts today

But look on the positive side of things, that's 6 weeks of teaching bad habits to our players he doesn't get to do.

 

[1970crow]

Hart suspended 6 games. Players suspended suspensions of 1 game.

****ing hell, 6 games, is that all.

 

[Scorpus]

Of course

 

[Bearded Clam]

What's with the Hart hate?

Yeah.. actually... I’ve jumped on the “Ben harts a moron“ bandwagon in the past few days.. but your comment right now has made me rethink..

I‘m actually good mates with a lot of the lads who were in his year at Rostrevor. I’ve never met Ben myself but all of them always had very kind words to say about him.. all of them always said he was a really good bloke..

And i guess we (us crows supporters) shouldn’t forget he’s also a 2 time premiership and 4 time all Australian player for us among other things..

Sure.. He might be a shit assistant coach and not suitable for the role at all.. but he probably deserves a lot more respect than myself and other crows supporters here are currently giving him..

 

[ad victoriam]

Because our club doesn't have a long, established, proven history of lying to the public with its statements. A long history it has continued even into this saga by claiming we had permission to train outside despite that being directly contradicted by the SA police commissioner.

Have you ever met Nicks, or even Kelly, If So You will now they are pretty straight shooters,
And they did have Permission to train outdoors. regardless of what you think,
Have recently found out we only had permission BY SAPOL via the Health Dept, to train in Pairs, We had 8 players training for 10mins which is why we only received Education as Punishment from SAPOL,

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Yeah.. actually... I’ve jumped on the “Ben harts a moron“ bandwagon in the past few days.. but your comment right now has made me rethink..

I‘m actually good mates with a lot of the lads who were in his year at Rostrevor. I’ve never met Ben myself but all of them always had very kind words to say about him.. all of them always said he was a really good bloke..

And i guess we (us crows supporters) shouldn’t forget he’s also a 2 time premiership and 4 time all Australian player for us among other things..

Sure.. He might be a shit assistant coach and not suitable for the role at all.. but he probably deserves a lot more respect than myself and other crows supporters here are currently giving him..

Ben Hart was an excellent player who had an amazing career. This has never been in doubt.

He's just not a very good coach.

 

[Cap]

Of course

the AFL can't surely be that tone deaf can they?

 

[Vhaluus]

Have you ever met Nicks, or even Kelly, If So You will now they are pretty straight shooters,
And they did have Permission to train outdoors. regardless of what you think,
Have recently found out we only had permission BY SAPOL via the Health Dept, to train in Pairs, We had 8 players training for 10mins which is why we only received Education as Punishment from SAPOL,

You can keep lying all you want, the police commissioner was VERY clear.

 

[Tex200]

Have you ever met Nicks, or even Kelly, If So You will now they are pretty straight shooters,
And they did have Permission to train outdoors. regardless of what you think,
Have recently found out we only had permission BY SAPOL via the Health Dept, to train in Pairs, We had 8 players training for 10mins which is why we only received Education as Punishment from SAPOL,

So SAPOL Commissioner Stevens stared down the barrel of a camera, and lied to the public?

Righto

 

[crows dude]

******* hell, 6 games, is that all.

Players received a 1 game suspended sentence.
Hart has been stood down for 6 weeks. Not 6 matches.

 

[Cap]

the club.

to us.

like they have for years.

if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck.. it's a duck.

that doesn't really answer my question though.

The only person I heard speak specifically was Nicks, he said Hart wasn't there and in isolation.

did the AFL speak to Nicks? was Nicks lied to ? or did the players interviewed Lie to the AFL?

Did the AFC instruct the players to throw Hart under the bus? was Hart aware of this and happy to take the fall?

Did the AFC actually learn something from last time and give the AFL a scapegoat to cop the punishment?

if it is the last point, then I am happy we've grown some balls.

 

[Magus]

Ben Hart was an excellent player who had an amazing career. This has never been in doubt.

He's just not a very good coach.

How is this a known thing? Is all down to team performance?
I only ask this because I haven't seen your team structure up poorly.

 

[Kenny Dee]

On Cornes and KG Sat, they received a text claiming it was a relative of an experienced player from Port Adelaide. they did not have any clarification so there no Proof.
But it would not surprise me, as any other South Australian not associated with the Football would have contacted SAPOL, however, this person contact the Vic media,

Interesting

 

[ad victoriam]

You can keep lying all you want, the police commissioner was VERY clear.

You should stop being a pretending Hero most on here are Adults. I am not Lying and don't take being accused of lying by juvenile infants.
And he did not make it Clear.
They had the approval to train within the boundaries of Barossa Novotel,

 

[Mutineer]

So when are the AFL going to say what's in and what's out since the lifting of restrictions?

 

[ad victoriam]

So SAPOL Commissioner Stevens stared down the barrel of a camera, and lied to the public?

Righto

No, he made his statement based on the data at hand, read his later response,
There was a misunderstanding from both groups area,

 

[1970crow]

The statement from AFL House also confirmed Ben Hart led the playing group into forming the groups of 8. The players didn't do it on their own.

Bloke is a deadset moron. Should be sacked

Ben was always in the AFL sights. You could tell as soon as we came out and supported him publicly and said he wouldn’t face internal sanctions. The club hope we still think he’s great and that the AFL are th3 baddies. We’re piss weak, we should have made an example of Hart and not waited for the AFL to do our job for us. We’ve no hesitation suspending players, why aren’t staff held to account?

 

[FAITH]

Yeah.. actually... I’ve jumped on the “Ben harts a moron“ bandwagon in the past few days.. but your comment right now has made me rethink..

I‘m actually good mates with a lot of the lads who were in his year at Rostrevor. I’ve never met Ben myself but all of them always had very kind words to say about him.. all of them always said he was a really good bloke..

And i guess we (us crows supporters) shouldn’t forget he’s also a 2 time premiership and 4 time all Australian player for us among other things..

Sure.. He might be a shit assistant coach and not suitable for the role at all.. but he probably deserves a lot more respect than myself and other crows supporters here are currently giving him..

We don't owe any or those guys anything.
The club is bigger than any individual and he is harming the club and needs to leave.

Always welcome back for the 97/98 reunions.

 

[Vhaluus]

No, he made his statement based on the data at hand, read his later response,
There was a misunderstanding from both groups area,

Provide proof. Link us his later response.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

How is this a known thing? Is all down to team performance?

It's evidence of mediocrity over a long period of time. He started out okay as a defense coach when we still had champions like Rutten playing. He was good enough to score a job at Collingwood and lasted about 3 years before they sacked him. While he was there though they leaked goals like sieve. He then gets brought back to Adelaide to replace Podsiadly as defense coach and the performances dipped almost immediately. The club was actually planning on moving him to the SANFL side but Francou quit as forwards coach and Hart hot shunted into that role. Our forward structure has been garbage ever since.

There is no way for fans outside of the club to know just how bad he really is, but he seems to leave a trail of destruction wherever he goes.

 

[Cleric]

Just went to give him a serve on Twitter and realised the parasite has blocked me.

This is a joyous day.


On iPad using BigFooty.com mobile app

Dont worry, others have taken your place.

 

[arrowman]

Of course

Full training? Because afaik in SA right now, sport training is limited to groups of 10....is this whole state rules vs AFL rules thing getting a bit unwieldy?

Edit: just saw Mutineer's post above. Groups of 10 it is, then.

 

[1970crow]

That's Interesting as it goes against what Nicks was saying,
Any way it looking Like, If Rumours are true Hart will only be involved in 10 more games, assuming we don't play Finals
6 Weeks may give Wright a chance to showcase his talents.
Shit just heard it was 6 weeks not 6 games.

You think our club would talk honestly about staff screw ups? What in the last decade leads you that position?

 

[Bearded Clam]

Ben Hart was an excellent player who had an amazing career. This has never been in doubt.

He's just not a very good coach.

Yeah, your correct.. I’m just saying we probably shouldn’t call him a moron given all the joy he helped bring us supporters in those mid-late 90’s..