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If you had told West Coast fans at the end of 2022 that Luke Shuey was likely to continue as captain in 2023, you would have surprised more than not.
Now, as the Eagles close in on their first major intra-club hitout of the summer on Friday with an announcement on their captaincy expected this week, it will come as a bigger surprise if Shuey isn’t endorsed to continue as the club’s on field leader.

Sometimes things change at football clubs without a game being played.
Sometimes, at conservative clubs like the Eagles, the more some things change, the more others are likely to stay the same.
Players have a say in who leads the Eagles onto the field but new chairman Paul Fitzpatrick, coach Adam Simpson, football manager Gavin Bell and chief executive Trevor Nisbett have all endorsed Shuey over the pre-season by either declaring he will likely continue or that they would be surprised if there was a change.

Anything that involves any kind of vote is by definition a political process but, in a football club’s political process, the club’s four off-field figureheads are a pretty decent lobby group to have on your side.

The main reason to question whether Shuey should continue for a fourth season is the state of his body. But if that is a selection criteria, you would wipe out all but one of the other captaincy contenders.

Shuey, 32, repeatedly hamstrung and restricted to 20 of his team’s 40 games in 2020 and 2021, managed to cobble together 17 games last year. Of other players in the captaincy window, Jeremy McGovern played 10 times and Nic Naitanui eight.

The hardworking and respected Liam Duggan, 26, managed 20 but has spent much of the summer rehabbing a knee complaint. Elliot Yeo played just five games. Oscar Allen, the youngster rated the Eagles’ most likely future captain, did not play at all last year and cannot be considered a contender.

That leaves Shuey and the club’s 2022 best and fairest winner Tom Barrass as the viable options. Barrass did say upon winning the Worsfold Medal that leading the club would be an honour but the club’s hierarchy are clearly pointing their players towards Shuey

The Eagles, attempting to rebound from a poor 2022 and in the early stages of a rebuild, will be trying to bed down a number of young players in their best 22 this year. But bedding down a new captain, who is an unproven quantity in the role, is introducing one more variable to the mix than they need to.

It reinforces the high regard Shuey has always been held in by the Eagles.

Drafted at pick 18 in 2008, he didn’t play at all in 2009 and played just six times in 2010. His first two seasons in the AFL were ruined by injury and a family tragedy, his sister Mel dying after being struck by a motorcycle while walking home from a party in Melbourne early in 2009.

But as early as 2010, then Eagles assistant Scott Burns was asked by a fellow footy writer what sort of player Shuey was likely to be and Burns told him he was likely to become the best player at the club. He won the Norm Smith Medal for his role in West Coast’s 2018 grand final win over Collingwood.

Many at West Coast rate his 34 disposals that day – which included 19 in contests, eight tackles, eight inside fifties, nine clearances and a goal – alongside Peter Matera’s remarkable five goal haul off a wing in the 1992 decider as the best performances by any Eagle in any of the club’s seven grand finals.

Little more than 12 months after the 2018 flag the Eagles opted to replace premiership skipper Shannon Hurn with Shuey. Hurn had just turned 32. There was a feeling that if Shuey was going to lead the club – and many thought he should – it was then or never with him set to turn 30 in his first season in the role.

When you look for reasons for West Coast’s strange and seemingly premature slide down the AFL ladder, it is worth noting that the two midfield prime-movers who account for all four of the club champion awards between 2016 and 2019 are Shuey and Yeo.

Shuey has missed 25 of his club’s last 62 games.

Yeo has missed 35.

The Eagles regard backing Shuey’s leadership qualities as a sure thing. Backing his 32-year-old body in will be the punt they take if, as expected, he continues as skipper.
 



If you had told West Coast fans at the end of 2022 that Luke Shuey was likely to continue as captain in 2023, you would have surprised more than not.
Now, as the Eagles close in on their first major intra-club hitout of the summer on Friday with an announcement on their captaincy expected this week, it will come as a bigger surprise if Shuey isn’t endorsed to continue as the club’s on field leader.

Sometimes things change at football clubs without a game being played.
Sometimes, at conservative clubs like the Eagles, the more some things change, the more others are likely to stay the same.
Players have a say in who leads the Eagles onto the field but new chairman Paul Fitzpatrick, coach Adam Simpson, football manager Gavin Bell and chief executive Trevor Nisbett have all endorsed Shuey over the pre-season by either declaring he will likely continue or that they would be surprised if there was a change.

Anything that involves any kind of vote is by definition a political process but, in a football club’s political process, the club’s four off-field figureheads are a pretty decent lobby group to have on your side.

The main reason to question whether Shuey should continue for a fourth season is the state of his body. But if that is a selection criteria, you would wipe out all but one of the other captaincy contenders.

Shuey, 32, repeatedly hamstrung and restricted to 20 of his team’s 40 games in 2020 and 2021, managed to cobble together 17 games last year. Of other players in the captaincy window, Jeremy McGovern played 10 times and Nic Naitanui eight.

The hardworking and respected Liam Duggan, 26, managed 20 but has spent much of the summer rehabbing a knee complaint. Elliot Yeo played just five games. Oscar Allen, the youngster rated the Eagles’ most likely future captain, did not play at all last year and cannot be considered a contender.

That leaves Shuey and the club’s 2022 best and fairest winner Tom Barrass as the viable options. Barrass did say upon winning the Worsfold Medal that leading the club would be an honour but the club’s hierarchy are clearly pointing their players towards Shuey

The Eagles, attempting to rebound from a poor 2022 and in the early stages of a rebuild, will be trying to bed down a number of young players in their best 22 this year. But bedding down a new captain, who is an unproven quantity in the role, is introducing one more variable to the mix than they need to.

It reinforces the high regard Shuey has always been held in by the Eagles.

Drafted at pick 18 in 2008, he didn’t play at all in 2009 and played just six times in 2010. His first two seasons in the AFL were ruined by injury and a family tragedy, his sister Mel dying after being struck by a motorcycle while walking home from a party in Melbourne early in 2009.

But as early as 2010, then Eagles assistant Scott Burns was asked by a fellow footy writer what sort of player Shuey was likely to be and Burns told him he was likely to become the best player at the club. He won the Norm Smith Medal for his role in West Coast’s 2018 grand final win over Collingwood.

Many at West Coast rate his 34 disposals that day – which included 19 in contests, eight tackles, eight inside fifties, nine clearances and a goal – alongside Peter Matera’s remarkable five goal haul off a wing in the 1992 decider as the best performances by any Eagle in any of the club’s seven grand finals.

Little more than 12 months after the 2018 flag the Eagles opted to replace premiership skipper Shannon Hurn with Shuey. Hurn had just turned 32. There was a feeling that if Shuey was going to lead the club – and many thought he should – it was then or never with him set to turn 30 in his first season in the role.

When you look for reasons for West Coast’s strange and seemingly premature slide down the AFL ladder, it is worth noting that the two midfield prime-movers who account for all four of the club champion awards between 2016 and 2019 are Shuey and Yeo.

Shuey has missed 25 of his club’s last 62 games.

Yeo has missed 35.

The Eagles regard backing Shuey’s leadership qualities as a sure thing. Backing his 32-year-old body in will be the punt they take if, as expected, he continues as skipper.


The only issue I have with him continuing as skipper, and it really is splitting hairs, is that I'd consider him likely if not certain to retire at the end of the season. Ideally he would hand it over the season prior to retirement (which is what Hurn sort of did, then played too well to retire!) rather than leaving a void.

However, because of his injuries plus everyone understanding that this is likely his last hurrah, the transition to a new captain should be relatively smooth regardless.
 
The only issue I have with him continuing as skipper, and it really is splitting hairs, is that I'd consider him likely if not certain to retire at the end of the season. Ideally he would hand it over the season prior to retirement (which is what Hurn sort of did, then played too well to retire!) rather than leaving a void.

However, because of his injuries plus everyone understanding that this is likely his last hurrah, the transition to a new captain should be relatively smooth regardless.
This indicates to me that the club would also be happy to let him play on for another year. If his body has recovered where he can play consistently, and justify his position in the B22 each week, then I have no problem with him staying until he can't do this. But if he repeats the last 2 years, where he is either injured regularly, or jogging around at 80% to protect his body, I would expect a tap on the shoulder and a mid-season retirement. Simmo handled this perfectly with Glass, Cox and Pridda, but I'm not confident he has the same resolve for guys like: Shuey, Hurn or Nic Nat.
 

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The only issue I have with him continuing as skipper, and it really is splitting hairs, is that I'd consider him likely if not certain to retire at the end of the season. Ideally he would hand it over the season prior to retirement (which is what Hurn sort of did, then played too well to retire!) rather than leaving a void.

However, because of his injuries plus everyone understanding that this is likely his last hurrah, the transition to a new captain should be relatively smooth regardless.
The other way to 'handover' is to have the right people in the support roles, and perhaps increase what they do across the year. He can start to 'step back' across this year and start to hand off responsibility to the likely next candidate/s.
 
The other way to 'handover' is to have the right people in the support roles, and perhaps increase what they do across the year. He can start to 'step back' across this year and start to hand off responsibility to the likely next candidate/s.

TB and Allen co-captains? Unless we want Allen to focus on his body and craft. Which opens the door for Duggan? Unless we want Duggan to focus on his body.

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The other way to 'handover' is to have the right people in the support roles, and perhaps increase what they do across the year. He can start to 'step back' across this year and start to hand off responsibility to the likely next candidate/s.

Yep, if Shuey is going to be captain then I suggest we swap McGovern and Barrass as VC, and potentially Naitanui for Sheed.
 
Was it last season or the one prior we had a fairly old leadership group? I'm not convinced Shuey is the man for the job, as I'd prefer him to just focus on his body, but if he takes the helms we absolutely must surround him with some up and comers.

This was last year’s leadership group



Shuey captain
McGovern and Naitanui vice captains
Barrass, Duggan and Allen the rest of the leadership group

No disrespect to Gov or Nic but one or both of that pair needs to be moved on as VC. Maybe retain one in the leadership group

Barrass should then be elevated to VC

Duggan and Allen to remain as they are

Don’t be surprised if Sheed gets added to the leadership group as he’s seemed to be more leadery in what I’ve seen this off season
 
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Just give the captaincy to whoever doesnt need to focus on their body.

I put forward the following candidates
Jack Darling
Jamie Cripps
Luke Foley
 
Preseason schedule drop

Two home games at Mineral Resources. 0 against Fremantle.

Match sim vs Power with 6 periods of varying length.

Actual match (4x20 min quarters) vs Crows.

My guess is we get two away games in 2024
YeH Simpson mentioned in his press conference last week that us and Freo would be going over to Adelaide next year as part of the arrangement

The Port match is closed to the public. Sounds like it’ll sit somewhere between a match and a intraclub match sim
 


“The Power clash will be played over six periods - four periods of 28 minutes and two periods of 20 minutes, with no time on. Broadcast and venue access arrangements will be announced in due course.”

You’d expect everyone who’s fit enough to play would get a run at some stage in that game

Only a little over 3 weeks away
 
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