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Sad to hear Tunners done his AFL joint .
Pretty much. Not sure if you meant the AFL joint bit, but it works.

As sad as it is for Tunners who we know is injury-prone - and I'm sure we all feel for him and wish him the best in his recovery - it is sobering to again be reminded that an ACL injury can happen at any time, to any player.

In terms of Tunbridge as an injury-prone player - someone should study some of these players who are particularly prone to injury in order to identify whether there are any significant factors of difference in their diets and routines as compared to a control group of relatively soft-tissue-injury-free players.

Yes, genetics is one factor, but I believe the significance of diet is underplayed specifically in terms of collagen formation/maintenance and bone strength...it's unlikely that any player would be vitamin D deficient given their relatively high sun exposure, but perhaps certain individuals are lacking an adequate intake of vitamin C rich foods.

Vitamin C has an important role in collagen synthesis and hence tissue strength and repair. One of the reasons smokers are prone to developing a poor appearance and general health is the fact that smoking strips the body of all available vitamin C ---> poor collagen synthesis = poor wound healing and premature appearance of wrinkles.
 
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Pretty much. Not sure if you meant the AFL joint bit, but it works.

As sad as it is for Tunners who we know is injury-prone - and I'm sure we all feel for him and wish him the best in his recovery - it is sobering to again be reminded that an ACL injury can happen at any time, to any player.

In terms of Tunbridge as an injury-prone player - someone should study some of these players who are particularly prone to injury in order to identify whether there are any significant factors of difference in their diets and routines as compared to a control group of relatively soft-tissue-injury-free players.

Yes, genetics is one factor, but I believe the significance of diet is underplayed specifically in terms of collagen formation/maintenance and bone strength...it's unlikely that any player would be vitamin D deficient given their relatively high sun exposure, but perhaps certain individuals are lacking an adequate intake of vitamin C rich foods.

Vitamin C has an important role in collagen synthesis and hence tissue strength and repair. One of the reasons smokers are prone to developing a poor appearance and general health is the fact that smoking strips the body of all available vitamin C ---> poor collagen synthesis = poor wound healing and premature appearance of wrinkles.
In a professional and controlled environment where players are doing the same thing as prescribed by the club....

Genetics is the only factor
 

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In a professional and controlled environment where players are doing the same thing as prescribed by the club....

Genetics is the only factor
You really think sinking piss on the weekends and doing pingas is prescribed by the club docs? They all (most) do it.

I'd say during season they'd be pretty on point with the diets. Off season pingas galore.
 

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Pretty much. Not sure if you meant the AFL joint bit, but it works.

As sad as it is for Tunners who we know is injury-prone - and I'm sure we all feel for him and wish him the best in his recovery - it is sobering to again be reminded that an ACL injury can happen at any time, to any player.

In terms of Tunbridge as an injury-prone player - someone should study some of these players who are particularly prone to injury in order to identify whether there are any significant factors of difference in their diets and routines as compared to a control group of relatively soft-tissue-injury-free players.

Yes, genetics is one factor, but I believe the significance of diet is underplayed specifically in terms of collagen formation/maintenance and bone strength...it's unlikely that any player would be vitamin D deficient given their relatively high sun exposure, but perhaps certain individuals are lacking an adequate intake of vitamin C rich foods.

Vitamin C has an important role in collagen synthesis and hence tissue strength and repair. One of the reasons smokers are prone to developing a poor appearance and general health is the fact that smoking strips the body of all available vitamin C ---> poor collagen synthesis = poor wound healing and premature appearance of wrinkles.
Tunners should donate his body to science. Cut him open and dissect his AFL joint
 

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liposomal vit c .
I did that too with acerola cherry and sunflower lecithin to battle cancer . Cancer is in remission . I did have chemo which The liposomal was complementary to . I also juiced 2.5 kg of carrots a day . It kept me so well no one knew I was having 5 days solid chemo every 3 weeks for 6 months . The haemotologist said I was the Chemo king .
 

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You really think sinking piss on the weekends and doing pingas is prescribed by the club docs? They all (most) do it.

I'd say during season they'd be pretty on point with the diets. Off season pingas galore.
Didn't realise Tunners only gets injured during the off season?

How do you know Tunners isn't a devout follower of some religion?

Many probably do take drugs but I would like to know how that affects injuries when a player such as Ben Cousins can spend a career on these types of drugs and never quite be injured to the extent of a Tunbridge etc..
 

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Didn't realise Tunners only gets injured during the off season?

How do you know Tunners isn't a devout follower of some religion?

Many probably do take drugs but I would like to know how that affects injuries when a player such as Ben Cousins can spend a career on these types of drugs and never quite be injured to the extent of a Tunbridge etc..
I think you're missing the point, you said "genetics is the only factor" as if every single player is anal with their training and diet ect which just isnt true. I think there is definitely some merit behind doing research on players diets, pre game rituals, sleeping paterns ect.

Also i instagram tells all :D
 

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I think you're missing the point, you said "genetics is the only factor" as if every single player is anal with their training and diet ect which just isnt true. I think there is definitely some merit behind doing research on players diets, pre game rituals, sleeping paterns ect.

Also i instagram tells all :D
I see...
 

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I think you're missing the point, you said "genetics is the only factor" as if every single player is anal with their training and diet ect which just isnt true. I think there is definitely some merit behind doing research on players diets, pre game rituals, sleeping paterns ect.

Also i instagram tells all :D
Yep. Look at how Priddis has recovered from his surgery, how durable he has been. Some of the less gifted blokes take nothing for granted and they are the ultimate professionals. They live and breath football and appreciate the opportunity. They devote themselves to their job and bleed for their jumper.
 

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With Tunbridge I think its the way he plays the game. Bash and crash. Always going at blistering speed. He went through a stage where he played WAFL for a time so he can definitely play but the extra intensity is too much for his body it seems. He's too unconventional.

Priddis is durable due to him being slow. His body isn't quick enough to break itself and he doesn't stress it too much.
 

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With Tunbridge I think its the way he plays the game. Bash and crash. Always going at blistering speed. He went through a stage where he played WAFL for a time so he can definitely play but the extra intensity is too much for his body it seems. He's too unconventional.

Priddis is durable due to him being slow. His body isn't quick enough to break itself and he doesn't stress it too much.
Not really, research suggests that it comes down to genetics. Some people are more injury prone than others.
 

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Not really, research suggests that it comes down to genetics. Some people are more injury prone than others.
Like most other phenomena in this world, it is multifactorial. But I agree that one's genetic code is the biggest factor (nothing will make Priddis run faster).

But the point is, that is an uncontrollable factor. The factors such as dietary composition, sleep habits, social habits etc. which can be controlled warrant further study.

swooshacummings believes everything is controlled by the club (I don't think this is true), including which fruits and vegetables reside in the players' kitchens, and how they consume that produce (ie. do they eat some of the bioflavonoid-rich white pith from citrus fruits?)...

"In 1962, Dr. Robert Cragin used lemon-orange derived bioflavonoids on different groups of athletes in a double blind study. It was found that the athletes taking bioflavonoids experienced less
(sic) muscle and joint injuries than the control group. These athletes also recovered quicker from similar injuries than the group of athletes not taking the bioflavonoids. The addition of vitamin C to the bioflavonoids (as seen in citrus fruits) appeared to enhance these effects."

Darling has a unique diet that I'm not sure many others follow. Sure, they'd get advice, but do they heed it? Does the club check? Or do they simply measure outputs (training loads, skin-folds etc.) and retrospectively assess what the player is doing with their diet if there is an issue?
 
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I did some studies on food when I was a kid . Psycology or reverse psycology was the study . Apparently being scared of the dark was psycological. Also that brussel sprouts didnt taste horrible it was psycological . I hated mustard but it thinking it might be psycological cos it doesnt feel hot .I put a bit on my baby nephews tongue . He cried and my big sister whooped me big time . Also surgery doesnt hurt because they put you to sleep . My Dad was asleep so I pulled a hair out of his chest . Whooped again. I gave up studying psycology after that.
 
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