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BringouttheGimp

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PAOK of SALONIKA LIVERPOOL
I swear man.. if Isaac Quanor is not training with the main group and they don't get him ready for round 1 I will go down to Whittlesea and build more units and deal with idiots in their fake kmart surf tees at there one and only coffee shop staring at me like Tom Cruise has arrived in town or some shit like that.. that's it for me man.. I've had it up to my eyeballs with this shit man.
 

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I’m not sure if it’s just how I’m perceiving it but Daicos seems to be very prominent in the videos thus far. Seems in really good shape too.


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Always a coupla blokes coming from left field to secure a top 22 spot. Murphy Daics Brown.. perhaps one of the rookies.. who knows.

I like Daics a lot.. some of his highlights were fantastic.. 2 sided player.. beautiful skills. Difficult to predict yes.. only Daics knows if he belongs out there.
 

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Always a coupla blokes coming from left field to secure a top 22 spot. Murphy Daics Brown.. perhaps one of the rookies.. who knows.

I like Daics a lot.. some of his highlights were fantastic.. 2 sided player.. beautiful skills. Difficult to predict yes.. only Daics knows if he belongs out there.
Still think there’s a spot in our best 22 for Wells given his skill level and ability to hit targets going forward.

Daicos looks to have the same skill set and now looks like he’s got a mature body that can mix it at AFL level. There’s a spot for him if he takes his opportunities.


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Still think there’s a spot in our best 22 for Wells given his skill level and ability to hit targets going forward.

Daicos looks to have the same skill set and now looks like he’s got a mature body that can mix it at AFL level. There’s a spot for him if he takes his opportunities.


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Our Ball use to Forwards in the GF let us down espically in last qtr when we just Bombed the Ball quite a Few Times
 
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Whilst our ball use isn't the greatest i put that down to 2 things.

1- eagles pressure
2- our inability to deal with the pressure on the big stage
I don't think dealing with pressure on a big stage is the issue. While it was the biggest stage we had played in three finals prior. We won two, and almost won at the Boo Bowl.

Every year we play Anzac Day and QBD, and this year both Richmond H&A games were hyped massively. While we lost both those Richmond games it still added to that exposure.
 

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Our Ball use to Forwards in the GF let us down espically in last qtr when we just Bombed the Ball quite a Few Times
That’s what happens in finals, players are exhausted, immense pressure which doesn’t allow time to pin point a pass.

Eagles had a heap of talls taking marks on the wing during that 4th qtr. All of ours were in the stands.

Tall players become invaluable, that’s why Mason Cox takes so many marks in 4th qtrs.
 

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So just watched this...

Elliot had a set back ?

Geeee....

Combine the total games of Reid, Wells, Moore and Elliot might get 1 full season
Hopefully our coaching panel understands that our game plan can never involve Reid, Elliot, Moore or Wells.
Because not one of those four can be relied upon to string two games together.
 

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I put it down to ...
1- our lack of forward game plan.
2- our lack of forward game plan.
Neither the post to which this is a reply, nor this one are just. We lost that final by a few points. We were there or thereabouts until the very end, playing with a severely diminished back line, and in the face of some very shrewd tactics that nullified Sidebottom and Grundy.
The only planning lack was that absence of a method that worked to get around the two very effective tags. The Sidebottom forward move was anticipated and dealt with and there was nothing else. Grundy was left to cope.
The fact that we were so close when our key playmakers were taken out of the game says that pretty much everything else was operating well. We were a bit of luck, a couple of bad decisions and some poor umpiring from a win. We probably only needed one of these reversed and we won.
I can't see too much to criticize in the performance.
 

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Neither the post to which this is a reply, nor this one are just. We lost that final by a few points. We were there or thereabouts until the very end, playing with a severely diminished back line, and in the face of some very shrewd tactics that nullified Sidebottom and Grundy.
The only planning lack was that absence of a method that worked to get around the two very effective tags. The Sidebottom forward move was anticipated and dealt with and there was nothing else. Grundy was left to cope.
The fact that we were so close when our key playmakers were taken out of the game says that pretty much everything else was operating well. We were a bit of luck, a couple of bad decisions and some poor umpiring from a win. We probably only needed one of these reversed and we won.
I can't see too much to criticize in the performance.
Rioli gets pinged for blocking Maynard and we win. Simple as that. I hate the feeling of having a flag stolen from us by umpires, and I know other stuff happened, but if that was judged correctly.......
 

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Rioli gets pinged for blocking Maynard and we win. Simple as that. I hate the feeling of having a flag stolen from us by umpires, and I know other stuff happened, but if that was judged correctly.......
Is there a proper replay of the free kick against Grundy from the ruck contest in the middle of the ground? Given the way those are an absolute raffle I have my doubts about the call without even having seen a replay.

We're two goals up all the momentum at the start of the fourth. They get the free in the middle. Kick a goals straight away and the margin is straight back to 6 points. Who knows what would have happened if we had won that centre clearance and taken the ball forward and locked it in there.

There is a lot more to football than premierships but god it hurts when you lose a grand final.
 

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Is there a proper replay of the free kick against Grundy from the ruck contest in the middle of the ground? Given the way those are an absolute raffle I have my doubts about the call without even having seen a replay.

We're two goals up all the momentum at the start of the fourth. They get the free in the middle. Kick a goals straight away and the margin is straight back to 6 points. Who knows what would have happened if we had won that centre clearance and taken the ball forward and locked it in there.

There is a lot more to football than premierships but god it hurts when you lose a grand final.
Without caring watch to a replay it wasn't the only occasion where the eagles got a centre ruck free and subsequent goal when had momentum. As you say they're a raffle, however we didn't get one in centre all day. We also had more than enough chances to continue that momentum ourselves, but didn't take them. At various times live it felt like we only needed one more goal to seal/run away with the trophy, but we could never get it.
 

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Rioli gets pinged for blocking Maynard and we win. Simple as that. I hate the feeling of having a flag stolen from us by umpires, and I know other stuff happened, but if that was judged correctly.......
Well you could add that to the 2002 and 1979 GF Losses.

Scumps just Naturally Hate Us as they Grown up Hating Collingwood and it's hard to get that out of Someone when they had it as long as they can Remember.

and You wonder why I hate the Scumps so much
 

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Whilst our ball use isn't the greatest i put that down to 2 things.

1- eagles pressure
2- our inability to deal with the pressure on the big stage
We won games on Anzac Day, Queens Birthday and two finals. We weren’t disgraced by WCE in either losing final. As far as I’m concerned we succeeded on 4 of the 6 biggest stages we found ourselves in. Don’t think there’s an inability to deal with pressure at all.
 

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We won games on Anzac Day, Queens Birthday and two finals. We weren’t disgraced by WCE in either losing final. As far as I’m concerned we succeeded on 4 of the 6 biggest stages we found ourselves in. Don’t think there’s an inability to deal with pressure at all.
I was away from BF for a bit so didnt get a chance to reply but i respectfully disagree.

Anzac day/queens bday etc are huge games in terms of crowd numbers yes, but the ramifications are no where near as big. You lose yes it sucks and frustrating but the granny is literally the last game of the year, if you lose there is no redemption the week after. The pressure if huge.

I was at the game and in the last quarter i cant even count how many times we had the ball in defence and just bombed it out straight to Barrass/McGovern/Hurn etc. Where as normally we would be composed, run in numbers. I dunno i hate banging on about it because it still hurts but yeah, just my opinion.
 

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Rioli gets pinged for blocking Maynard and we win. Simple as that. I hate the feeling of having a flag stolen from us by umpires, and I know other stuff happened, but if that was judged correctly.......
The umpires didnt cost us the game?

Darling doesnt muck up and we lose by 2.

If they didnt miss all their last qtr set shots we lose by 2-3 goals.

In my opinion for 3 qtrs we were outplayed. And in the end we did let it slip, but by no means does it mean it was an undeserving victory for west coast. In my opinion if we won, we would of stolen it. Yes we got a 5 goal lead and some decisions went against us but a lot went for us and ultimately not capitalizing on our opportunities cost us.
 

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I was away from BF for a bit so didnt get a chance to reply but i respectfully disagree.

Anzac day/queens bday etc are huge games in terms of crowd numbers yes, but the ramifications are no where near as big. You lose yes it sucks and frustrating but the granny is literally the last game of the year, if you lose there is no redemption the week after. The pressure if huge.

I was at the game and in the last quarter i cant even count how many times we had the ball in defence and just bombed it out straight to Barrass/McGovern/Hurn etc. Where as normally we would be composed, run in numbers. I dunno i hate banging on about it because it still hurts but yeah, just my opinion.
I’m not saying we didn’t execute the game plan as well as we could’ve, I’m more generally speaking in reference to your quote “the inability to perform on a big stage” isn’t necessarily true as I pointed out previously.

The inability was to adapt to West Coast’s structure and create scoring opportunities.
 

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The back line was decimated and we had all of Pendles, DeGoo and Treloar at well below par physically.

West coast pushed and tunneled Cox all day and were allowed to get away with it.

But let's not lose sight of the fact that it was damn near a miracle that we even made the gf.

The team was not physically or mentally mature enough to get that last 5% result - end of story.

Blaming the umpires is a cop out - we had been beating good sides all year with even worse umpiring.

But blaming players or coaching staff is also a cop out (and in my opinion a far worse one) - those kids achieved miracles and were supported by a rejuvenated and united coaching and support staff.

Peace brothers - we almost achieved the impossible, lay the blame where it merits.

Youth and luck - both play a role in every final.
 
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