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TigerTank's Fight Prediction Formula
An off-season aside, I’ve come up with a near foolproof system to predict the likelihood of a fight breaking out in the crowd at any given AFL football match.
Each club’s supporters have their idiosyncrasies but I’ve narrowed it down to 2 factors: a Bad Winner rating and a Bad Loser rating. Each rating is out of 10 with the higher the figure, the more feral the supporter.
A Bad Winner (BW rating = 10) absolutely canes the supporters of the opposing team as they leave, wave streamers in peoples faces, and brag and boast all week. They belittle opposition players and single out opposition supporters for special attention, and might even give leaving opposition supporters a nudge as they leave. Carlton supporters are the archetypal Bad Winner. A Good Winner (BW rating = 1) sings their club song and virtually ignores the opposition supporters as they leave.
A Bad Loser (BL rating = 10) boos everyone and everything including their own supporters and players, becomes abusive and often starts swinging. Richmond and Collingwood supporters are the archetypal Bad Losers. A Good Loser (BW = 1) claps off his/her own team even when they lose, congratulate the winning team or just quietly leaves the ground.
TO WORK OUT THE PERCENTAGE LIKELIHOOD OF A FIGHT BREAKING OUT FOR A GIVEN RESULT, multiply the Bad Winner rating for the victor by the Bad Loser rating of the loser. For example, Carlton beats Richmond is: BW rating 10 x BL rating 9.9 = 99% likelihood of a fight. Example 2, St Kilda beats Geelong is: BW rating 5 x BL rating 1 = 5% likelihood of a fight.
RATINGS AS FOLLOWS:
ADELAIDE: Bad Winner rating – 8; Bad Loser rating – 4
Still very smug in victory but since the defection of the lower life SA ferals to Port Adelaide have become reasonably civilised. No longer scratch cars with Victorian number plates.
BRISBANE: Bad Winner rating – 4; Bad Loser rating – 2
Don’t know enough about the game to be feral but the Western Bulldogs rivalry is beginning to bring out a bit of mongrel in them.
CARLTON: Bad Winner rating – 10; Bad Loser rating –4
No one shitstirrs like a winning Carlton supporter. Could cause Mother Teresa to attempt a king hit. Italian factor means they are absolute frontrunners so are quiet when losing. Often leave early if they’re getting flogged.
COLLINGWOOD: Bad Winner rating – 8; Bad Loser rating – 9
No longer as horrible as they once were. Still the all round mongrels of the competition but appear to be learning at least some respect and behaviour has improved. May now be less hated than Carlton supporters.
ESSENDON: Bad Winner rating – 9; Bad Loser rating – 5 (I suppose)
Essendon supporters appear to be attempting to do an impersonation of Carlton supporters but are too young or ignorant to master it. Abusing opposition players is less effective when you don’t even know their names.
FREMANTLE: Bad Winner rating – 4; Bad Loser rating – 7
Still learning the craft. Western Derby games, however, are finally getting a bit of spice about them
GEELONG: Bad Winner rating – 4; Bad Loser rating – 1
Arguably the league’s best behaved supporters. Seemed to have learnt to deal with failure and, when they win, appear to believe in the idea of “Do unto others as thou would hast done to you”
HAWTHORN: Bad Winner rating – 8; Bad Loser rating –6
Fast approaching the "big boys" with regard to being pricks. Feral behaviour from ‘rebel’ cheer squad is absolutely disgusting.
KANGAROOS: Bad Winner rating – 9; Bad Loser rating – 3
When the Kangaroos win everyone wants to belt them, but when they lose there aren’t enough around to pick on. Recognise there is safety in numbers - and that they simply don’t have them.
MELBOURNE: Bad Winners rating –3; Bad Loser rating – 3
Like Geelong supporters only a tad more pompous. Range Rovers leave early if the going gets tough.
PORT ADELAIDE: Bad Winners rating –9; Bad Loser rating –8
All the genuinely scummy Crows fans of the early 90s went to Port (Pot??). Combine the worst aspects of Crows, Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond and Bulldogs fans and you have the average Port supporter. Numbers thankfully low.
RICHMOND: Bad Winner rating –6; Bad Loser rating –9.9
Bad tempered, impatient, bitter and inclined to drink too much. Reasonable winners because they are totally absorbed in their club song, but when they lose things tend to get very ugly, very quickly.
ST KILDA: Bad Winner rating –5; Bad Loser rating –7
Very passionate but tend to direct fury towards their players, officials and coaches rather than to opposition supporters. Marijuana and heroin tend to make them placid compared to others.
SYDNEY: Bad Winner rating –6; Bad Loser rating –8
The big “improvers” on this issue. Denis Pagan found out that the more Swans learn about the game - the less likeable they become.
WEST COAST: Bad Winner rating –6; Bad Loser rating –4
Where have all the smug West Coast supporters gone? Beginning to prove they are theatre goers - not genuine footy fans.
WESTERN BULLDOGS: Bad Winner rating –5; Bad Loser rating –7
Not nice to look at but behaviour tends to be reasonable. Abuse coming from mouths devoid of teeth tends to be more comical than threatening. Don’t push them though because you might find your car missing after the game.
This is just a sketch, so others may like to adjust the numbers. I don’t think they will move too far though.
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TT - Obligatory bad-tempered Richmond supporter
[This message has been edited by TigerTank (edited 03 January 2001).]
TigerTank's Fight Prediction Formula
An off-season aside, I’ve come up with a near foolproof system to predict the likelihood of a fight breaking out in the crowd at any given AFL football match.
Each club’s supporters have their idiosyncrasies but I’ve narrowed it down to 2 factors: a Bad Winner rating and a Bad Loser rating. Each rating is out of 10 with the higher the figure, the more feral the supporter.
A Bad Winner (BW rating = 10) absolutely canes the supporters of the opposing team as they leave, wave streamers in peoples faces, and brag and boast all week. They belittle opposition players and single out opposition supporters for special attention, and might even give leaving opposition supporters a nudge as they leave. Carlton supporters are the archetypal Bad Winner. A Good Winner (BW rating = 1) sings their club song and virtually ignores the opposition supporters as they leave.
A Bad Loser (BL rating = 10) boos everyone and everything including their own supporters and players, becomes abusive and often starts swinging. Richmond and Collingwood supporters are the archetypal Bad Losers. A Good Loser (BW = 1) claps off his/her own team even when they lose, congratulate the winning team or just quietly leaves the ground.
TO WORK OUT THE PERCENTAGE LIKELIHOOD OF A FIGHT BREAKING OUT FOR A GIVEN RESULT, multiply the Bad Winner rating for the victor by the Bad Loser rating of the loser. For example, Carlton beats Richmond is: BW rating 10 x BL rating 9.9 = 99% likelihood of a fight. Example 2, St Kilda beats Geelong is: BW rating 5 x BL rating 1 = 5% likelihood of a fight.
RATINGS AS FOLLOWS:
ADELAIDE: Bad Winner rating – 8; Bad Loser rating – 4
Still very smug in victory but since the defection of the lower life SA ferals to Port Adelaide have become reasonably civilised. No longer scratch cars with Victorian number plates.
BRISBANE: Bad Winner rating – 4; Bad Loser rating – 2
Don’t know enough about the game to be feral but the Western Bulldogs rivalry is beginning to bring out a bit of mongrel in them.
CARLTON: Bad Winner rating – 10; Bad Loser rating –4
No one shitstirrs like a winning Carlton supporter. Could cause Mother Teresa to attempt a king hit. Italian factor means they are absolute frontrunners so are quiet when losing. Often leave early if they’re getting flogged.
COLLINGWOOD: Bad Winner rating – 8; Bad Loser rating – 9
No longer as horrible as they once were. Still the all round mongrels of the competition but appear to be learning at least some respect and behaviour has improved. May now be less hated than Carlton supporters.
ESSENDON: Bad Winner rating – 9; Bad Loser rating – 5 (I suppose)
Essendon supporters appear to be attempting to do an impersonation of Carlton supporters but are too young or ignorant to master it. Abusing opposition players is less effective when you don’t even know their names.
FREMANTLE: Bad Winner rating – 4; Bad Loser rating – 7
Still learning the craft. Western Derby games, however, are finally getting a bit of spice about them
GEELONG: Bad Winner rating – 4; Bad Loser rating – 1
Arguably the league’s best behaved supporters. Seemed to have learnt to deal with failure and, when they win, appear to believe in the idea of “Do unto others as thou would hast done to you”
HAWTHORN: Bad Winner rating – 8; Bad Loser rating –6
Fast approaching the "big boys" with regard to being pricks. Feral behaviour from ‘rebel’ cheer squad is absolutely disgusting.
KANGAROOS: Bad Winner rating – 9; Bad Loser rating – 3
When the Kangaroos win everyone wants to belt them, but when they lose there aren’t enough around to pick on. Recognise there is safety in numbers - and that they simply don’t have them.
MELBOURNE: Bad Winners rating –3; Bad Loser rating – 3
Like Geelong supporters only a tad more pompous. Range Rovers leave early if the going gets tough.
PORT ADELAIDE: Bad Winners rating –9; Bad Loser rating –8
All the genuinely scummy Crows fans of the early 90s went to Port (Pot??). Combine the worst aspects of Crows, Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond and Bulldogs fans and you have the average Port supporter. Numbers thankfully low.
RICHMOND: Bad Winner rating –6; Bad Loser rating –9.9
Bad tempered, impatient, bitter and inclined to drink too much. Reasonable winners because they are totally absorbed in their club song, but when they lose things tend to get very ugly, very quickly.
ST KILDA: Bad Winner rating –5; Bad Loser rating –7
Very passionate but tend to direct fury towards their players, officials and coaches rather than to opposition supporters. Marijuana and heroin tend to make them placid compared to others.
SYDNEY: Bad Winner rating –6; Bad Loser rating –8
The big “improvers” on this issue. Denis Pagan found out that the more Swans learn about the game - the less likeable they become.
WEST COAST: Bad Winner rating –6; Bad Loser rating –4
Where have all the smug West Coast supporters gone? Beginning to prove they are theatre goers - not genuine footy fans.
WESTERN BULLDOGS: Bad Winner rating –5; Bad Loser rating –7
Not nice to look at but behaviour tends to be reasonable. Abuse coming from mouths devoid of teeth tends to be more comical than threatening. Don’t push them though because you might find your car missing after the game.
This is just a sketch, so others may like to adjust the numbers. I don’t think they will move too far though.
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TT - Obligatory bad-tempered Richmond supporter
[This message has been edited by TigerTank (edited 03 January 2001).]
