Roast Preliminary Final Umpiring Thread

[wraglesweb]

Commentators bias towards North... That'll be the day...


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Yeah like great tackle Goldstein....lands fair in Hurns back !

 

[Duck king Carey]

You seriously think you should of won that game ? North we're just outclassed in the end and Eagle's had more run..But they did show some real spirit and to come from 8th into a prelim was a gallant effort they had a real crack should be proud not blaming the umpires just because the biased VIC commentators we're pointing out Norths bad decisions not the Eagle's

I did not at any point say the Eagles did not deserve.to win, they took their oportunities and won the game,it is not there fault the umpiring was atrocious and very one sided. It also is not a biased Vic commentator thing as you suggest because I think Freo got a raw deal the night before.

 

[InFineForm]

That may be the case but we'll never know because the umpires literally stripped all momentum away from us then literally gifted them goals (Shuey high, LeCras non-HTB) and denied us goals (Jacobs trip) with the game in the balance.

West Coast may have been the better side, but this game did not determine it.

Suspicion is that we probably weren't quite good enough (a few too many passengers), but we'll never really know for sure.

 

[Horace]

I liked how mid way through the last quarter, they pulled out 3 free kicks for North from nothing incidents, in nothing positions, in a very short space of time, to balance the ledger.

And how often does that happen? Far too often. And who knows, at that stage the boys from OPSM will doubtless be thinking about whether they will get to the big one next week and if they want to reduce the chances of missing out, surely a few inconsequential frees to even the ledger must surely help their individual causes.

 

[wraglesweb]

I did not at any point say the Eagles did not deserve.to win, they took their oportunities and won the game,it is not there fault the umpiring was atrocious and very one sided. It also is not a biased Vic commentator thing as you suggest because I think Freo got a raw deal the night before.

What a raw deal on the commentary lol

 

[Horace]

Do any of you even know what happened with the Darling free kick or are you just assuming seeing as you didn't see it? Being at the game, directly above the incident, it was clear as day he was being held, just like the rest of the night, only it was called then. The Shuey one was there as well, watch the replay, Dal Santo's torso made clear contact with Shuey's head, it doesn't matter if you think that's soft, that's the rules.

You have got to be kidding. Have a look at the replay. The camera catches a much better view than you could have from in the stand.

Piss off back to your own board you buffoon.

 

[Horace]

Calm down mate, no need to name call, you're just making a c*** of yourself.

I do know the rules of the game mate, you're just trying to bend them to suit your little narrative. He may have been trying to avoid Shuey, but he was the one who ran into Shuey's line and made contact with his head, just finished watching the replay so I actually know what I'm talking about, not just some vague memory during a drunken stupor like yourself.

Yes, you're right you can make contact with your opponent, but you can't hold the jumper, which is what happened, but I guess because Cameron Ling who was 150 metres away from the incident on the boundary, said it was a bad call, that means it was right? The only vision you got was a far camera shot from centre wing, that only captured half of the incident, but somehow you're the expert? Mate, I was directly in line with the Darling incident, in the 2nd tier looking down on it as it happened, his jumper was being held end of story, no matter what you or anyone else who had a shoddy camera view from 150 metres away thinks.

If anybody deserves an umpire reaming next weekend is Hawthorn, they were genuinely gifted goals. End of the day, if you don't want to look at it rationally, and pretend like those 2 decisions weren't there, that's fine, just consider it karma for the Harvery incident in round 10, that actually may have cost us the game, your lot were never going to win tonight.

And how far away were you up in the 2nd tier? Further away than the camera shot that is for sure.

You have no idea. As I previously posted piss off.

 

[SpearPass]

I have never, in my 23 years of existence, said that the umps have decided a result, or at the least put a result in doubt. I would normally defend them, saying "they got the rub of the green, but it happens, if you're good enough, you win."

Last night I sat with 4 neutrals and a West Coast Eagles supporter when I watched the match at my house. The 4 neutrals were all cracking the shits about the umpiring the the Weagles supporter sat there embarrassed. His words after the game were this: "People will say we were the better team, but deep down we just don't know because of that umpiring. Adam Simpson is going into a bloody grand final next week not knowing if his side can beat 8th on the ladder in a preliminary final because we just had it served to us on a platter when we were toast."

And that about sums it up.

We may not have been the better team, but the result has a massive cloud hanging over it. We had them on the ropes. Yes, we kicked poorly, but we were absorbing most of their forward thrusts with absolute ease and composure, and were winning clearances like no tomorrow. Then the dubious frees I50 started to roll in. Players started to question their abilities, worrying over nonexistent technicalities. As the frees piled up in very dangerous scoring positions whilst we were arm wrestling to put them out the match, the entire stadium knew what was happening and the Weagles fans started to get behind their boys. They were gifted 12 points in an incredibly low scoring game at a critical point in the match, and thus the momentum went their way as as soon as we began to build we had the rug pulled out from underneath us by the umpires. We broke after a quarter and a half of this, and although we kept fighting, you could sense that the Eagles had been gifted an open door back into the game and that they'd run over the top of us.

It was a gallant effort by our boys and I want them to go into 2016 with this burning in their gut. I want them to think to themselves "we could have been playing in a grand final if not for some circumstances beyond our control. Let's make sure we put ourselves in a position next year so that those circumstances have minimal effect."

 

[SpearPass]

Oh and let's not forget that BBB and Petrie can be held in a crucifix every single forward entry yet Darling receives a free for imaginary holding and Shuey gets a hair displaced and 'earns' a shot on goal.

 

[Horace]

Yeah like great tackle Goldstein....lands fair in Hurns back !

Yes I agree with that. The same happened to Petrie later in the game and no free kick.

 

[Wild Bill]

Do any of you even know what happened with the Darling free kick or are you just assuming seeing as you didn't see it? Being at the game, directly above the incident, it was clear as day he was being held, just like the rest of the night, only it was called then. The Shuey one was there as well, watch the replay, Dal Santo's torso made clear contact with Shuey's head, it doesn't matter if you think that's soft, that's the rules.

One eyed idiot supporter sees something from 200 meters away!! I'm convinced...

It was called a horrific decision because it was. That contact happens in every forward contest.

 

[Duck king Carey]

What a raw deal on the commentary lol

From umpires you goose, who really gives a f*** what commentators think.

 

[discodaddy]

Turner's kick to Waite called play on. If that was Sam Mitchell, perfect pass.

If Darlings was a free, Ben Brown would get a free every entry into our 50

On TV it looked like there were a lot of 20-30 metre passes that were called "play on" (both ways). That, and when the player has and mark/free and gets called to "play on" having neither consumed their time or nor moved off the mark, drives me spare.

 

[Horace]

I have never, in my 23 years of existence, said that the umps have decided a result, or at the least put a result in doubt. I would normally defend them, saying "they got the rub of the green, but it happens, if you're good enough, you win."

Last night I sat with 4 neutrals and a West Coast Eagles supporter when I watched the match at my house. The 4 neutrals were all cracking the shits about the umpiring the the Weagles supporter sat there embarrassed. His words after the game were this: "People will say we were the better team, but deep down we just don't know because of that umpiring. Adam Simpson is going into a bloody grand final next week not knowing if his side can beat 8th on the ladder in a preliminary final because we just had it served to us on a platter when we were toast."

And that about sums it up.

We may not have been the better team, but the result has a massive cloud hanging over it. We had them on the ropes. Yes, we kicked poorly, but we were absorbing most of their forward thrusts with absolute ease and composure, and were winning clearances like no tomorrow. Then the dubious frees I50 started to roll in. Players started to question their abilities, worrying over nonexistent technicalities. As the frees piled up in very dangerous scoring positions whilst we were arm wrestling to put them out the match, the entire stadium knew what was happening and the Weagles fans started to get behind their boys. They were gifted 12 points in an incredibly low scoring game at a critical point in the match, and thus the momentum went their way as as soon as we began to build we had the rug pulled out from underneath us by the umpires. We broke after a quarter and a half of this, and although we kept fighting, you could sense that the Eagles had been gifted an open door back into the game and that they'd run over the top of us.

It was a gallant effort by our boys and I want them to go into 2016 with this burning in their gut. I want them to think to themselves "we could have been playing in a grand final if not for some circumstances beyond our control. Let's make sure we put ourselves in a position next year so that those circumstances have minimal effect."

Excellent summation of the situation. Momentum is so key in any game of football. Once it swings and a team opens up a break, particularly as they happened in the third quarter, the opposition begins to react differently as it realises its grasp on the game is slipping.

This is so often the key outcome of bad umpiring decisions. It changes the whole course of the game and no-one can truly say what direction the game might have taken if those Schuey and Darling frees, resulting in goals, had never happened.

 

[wraglesweb]

From umpires you goose, who really gives a f*** what commentators think.

The typical footy supporter who actually don't know the rules and believe the absolute garbage the commentators dribble

 

[wraglesweb]

Excellent summation of the situation. Momentum is so key in any game of football. Once it swings and a team opens up a break, particularly as they happened in the third quarter, the opposition begins to react differently as it realises its grasp on the game is slipping.

This is so often the key outcome of bad umpiring decisions. It changes the whole course of the game and no-one can truly say what direction the game might have taken if those Schuey and Darling frees, resulting in goals, had never happened.

Eagles kicked 10 goals 20 it could of been a flogging it's not hard to see who was the better side...

 

[InFineForm]

Eagles kicked 10 goals 20 it could of been a flogging it's not hard to see who was the better side...

It's time to go.......... You. F##$% off.

There's been a bit of banter, but now you're just being a flog. See ya.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Why in the world are you west coast posters in here, this is the north board, kindly just bugger off to your own. I highly doubt 95% of north posters remotely care what you think.

 

[Roos Addick]

Do any of you even know what happened with the Darling free kick or are you just assuming seeing as you didn't see it? Being at the game, directly above the incident, it was clear as day he was being held, just like the rest of the night, only it was called then. The Shuey one was there as well, watch the replay, Dal Santo's torso made clear contact with Shuey's head, it doesn't matter if you think that's soft, that's the rules.

When even channel 7 highlight them as being blatantly wrong then you know something ain't right.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

You could claim the better team won on the night. They finished higher on the ladder etc.

But the fact is we will never know because of the momentum changing decisions that were paid to the eagles throughout the 2nd to 4th quarters.

That's what hurts the most, we will never know if our best was good enough because every time we got on a run it was reversed and not just by eagles pressure but by 3 guys who are not supposed to be noticed during a game.

An indication of a job well done by an umpiring team is that no one even remembers who umpired after the game, means they adjudicated fairly enough that no one needed to look harder at them, after last night though most neutrals are commenting on how poor they were.

 

[dus]

We should be preparing for a GF.

We were robbed.

Eagles supporters at the game have no idea. Boo and hiss then go off their nut for a goal. They actually don't understand the game.

 

[Harris 10]

Its been a terrible final series for the umps.
The Cunnington non call,Birchall deliberate, Ballantyne reversal
Jacobs trip to name a few.
The bouncing has been diabolical
Shallow throw ins every week.

Changes are required.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I'd also like to ask (and hear me out)

Don't take this out on all eagles supporters.

The ones that are being absolute knob ends in this thread and on the main board are just that, knob ends.

Had a quick peek at their board and the majority seem to be admitting they got massive rub of the green tonight and believe we/the coach have a right to be angry about the decisions.

Don't judge all of them on their w***erish supporters just like we would hope people wouldn't judge us on That's Wright.

 

[Tigerssaints]

We should be preparing for a GF.

We were robbed.

Eagles supporters at the game have no idea. Boo and hiss then go off their nut for a goal. They actually don't understand the game.

sympathise with you guys. as a sainter, the round 23 ,against west coast ,whilst we never expected to win the game, we were umpired out of it very early on , Eagles 23 free kicks to our 6 ,and we did not get a free in the second half, our guys in possession of the ball 'holdin it' eagles in possession ,ball up' too many others , head high tackles, 50/50 went to eagles
My fellow sainters went ballistic on their site

 

[Dirty_11]

There will be no repercussions apart from the umpires getting over-looked for next week. Might get a brief mention on today's footy shows followed by a "the better team won on the day." For ex-players, their understanding of momentum in football is quite poor.