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Canada said:
SKOB to win it.
Bail, Strauss, Gysberts, Gilham, Solopek all playing and will continue to.
Spring heeled Williams is a gun. Lynch, Gleeson, Jones, Wood...
List goes on and on.
Maplebet may need to close after this season.
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Give it a rest, you said a few posts before that they would be relegated.
Why nothing about OX? When are Wynne and Noonan heading o/s?
 
BrianSpeaking said:
Are you really unable to understand what I'm saying? Ill put it simply: Private school have the best players, a lot who play at the highest levels compared to district clubs.

If these players are all home players they are only worth 1 point, so if they all(unlikely of course) decided to play at their old boys club, you could have a team of AFL and VFL players worth only 22 points on one day.

If a district club tried to recruit these people to their club the points total would be anywhere from 88 to 132. Pretty easy to understand I would have thought.

As far as being in B grade for 10 years, maybe that's because our best school footballers are AFL and VFL quality so we miss out on them, evidenced by the high number playing at those levels. I'd also suggest the club thoroughly enjoyed playing in B grade last year, any year you win a flag is brilliant.

As far as barely giving a whimper in A grade, when was the last time a team kicked over 200 points in the top grade? I don't ever remember seeing it, but of course let's ignore that shall we!
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Your hypotheticals don't marry up with the real world though BS. You are basing your argument on something that won't happen and doesn't exist.

The district clubs aren't currently running around with 40+ points in their team, most are in the low 30's. It's only the heavy weight Old Boys clubs that are in the 40's, so as such, if the points were reduced from 50 down to mid to high 30's (say 38 for arguments sake). Based on what's actually been reported, the only clubs that would experience any impact are OX and SKOBs.

So if the cap was at 38, pretty much every team that ran out on Saturday (across 70 teams) would have stayed the same except for OX and SKOBs... I don't see how this would negatively affect district clubs?

It has nothing to do with a fantasy about how many players you have loosely associated with your old boys club that could possibly, one day, play at said old boys club. We are talking in the here and now.

If you want to argue your point please show me, in the real world, which district clubs in the VAFA would be affected if the points were capped at 38?

Drumming up some fantasy about having scholarship kids one day running around at SKOBs and therefore being detrimental for district clubs doesn't hold.
 
BrianSpeaking said:
Are you really unable to understand what I'm saying? Ill put it simply: Private school have the best players, a lot who play at the highest levels compared to district clubs.

If these players are all home players they are only worth 1 point, so if they all(unlikely of course) decided to play at their old boys club, you could have a team of AFL and VFL players worth only 22 points on one day.

If a district club tried to recruit these people to their club the points total would be anywhere from 88 to 132. Pretty easy to understand I would have thought.

As far as being in B grade for 10 years, maybe that's because our best school footballers are AFL and VFL quality so we miss out on them, evidenced by the high number playing at those levels. Based on those facts, we do well to even play in Premier and Premier B, I'd also suggest the club thoroughly enjoyed playing in B grade last year, any year you win a flag is brilliant.

As far as barely giving a whimper in A grade, when was the last time a team kicked over 200 points in the top grade? I don't ever remember seeing it, but of course let's ignore that shall we!
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A couple of points : Private schools poach outstanding young footy talent with "sports scholarships" Mostly years 10, 11 and 12 inclusive.All be it they have only attended for a short period. Still qualify as "old boys" Not hard to work that out.

A Premiership in any level is still a Premiership. Something to celebrate always.

Dont get to carried away kicking 200+ against OC...
 

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BrianSpeaking said:
We would have still had the same team Chazz, that's 4 points less than the team PEGS have been putting on the park most weeks.
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Pegs still isn't a district club though.

My point is that lowering the cap wouldn't be detrimental to district clubs in the VAFA as 99% of them wouldn't be affected. So people claiming it would kill off district clubs are getting ahead of themselves a little.

I really don't give two hoots about the cap as at 50 points it's a farce anyway. Nothing has changed in Ammo ranks because of it.
 
FWIW said:
FWIW I think you guys are missing my point. The clubs without juniors have no other option but to go the "buy in" route. Think Albert Park, West Brunswick, NOBS, Powerhouse etc. By reducing the cap it will make it nearly impossible for these clubs to ever climb the grades against other clubs with stronger feeders (I never mentioned A or B). The overarching level playing field is that no one gets paid and it should stay that way.
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The points system in the MPNFL forced the clubs without a productive feeder system to get off their rears and develop one. Amazing what is possible when push comes to shove.

No one is supposed to be paid but the rich, powerful and influential clubs can not only use the feeder route but offer jobs; in the old school situation - scholarships; often have way better facilities and support staff et al
 
BrianSpeaking said:
Are you really unable to understand what I'm saying? Ill put it simply: Private school have the best players, a lot who play at the highest levels compared to district clubs.

If these players are all home players they are only worth 1 point, so if they all(unlikely of course) decided to play at their old boys club, you could have a team of AFL and VFL players worth only 22 points on one day.

If a district club tried to recruit these people to their club the points total would be anywhere from 88 to 132. Pretty easy to understand I would have thought.

As far as being in B grade for 10 years, maybe that's because our best school footballers are AFL and VFL quality so we miss out on them, evidenced by the high number playing at those levels. Based on those facts, we do well to even play in Premier and Premier B, I'd also suggest the club thoroughly enjoyed playing in B grade last year, any year you win a flag is brilliant.

As far as barely giving a whimper in A grade, when was the last time a team kicked over 200 points in the top grade? I don't ever remember seeing it, but of course let's ignore that shall we!
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How many current AFL players that went to St Kevins were NOT on scholarships?
 

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PartyBoy said:
Libba and Wallis surprise me. I take it they were there for 4+ years then?
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They started in prep, as did Hunter and De Goey.

What's your point and what's it got to do with VAFA Premier football?

Cant believe people aren't talking about St Bernards, they are in a world of pain.

Where's Jimmyjack ? Batting 0-3 at the moment!
 
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BrianSpeaking said:
As was my point about 34 AFL and VFL players, who are all one pointers if they ever play for us. Reducing the points cap would kill local clubs, surely that's obvious?
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"If they ever play for us"

Obviously they won't, as the only ex AFL guys you seem to attract have no previous connection with your school.

Gilham is a Friar student, and would be one point for us. We don't honestly ever expect he will play for our club as he has no connection. Instead he plays for you as he has a mate there and presumably you provided employment opportunities.

Gysberts would be a 1 pointer for Yarra Valley OB. Will never play them either.

Shelve the lubricant and stop whacking on about "34 AFL/VFL players" as if it's something you should boast, because none of them are ever likely to retire and then play for your club. They have no reason to.
 

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darwinderwin said:
They went close to Blues last weekend and I think they'll get over Blacks at the Uni this weekend.
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Darwin cant see it happening.. As I see it, will only beat OC away. Will lose rest of away games. Home games should give them some wins...
but not enough to save them.

Coll. after their last GF just hung on for the following year I think...
 
Mounzer11 said:
Has it happened before where the reigning premier is relegated the year after??
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In recent times Haileybury won the flag in 2006 and relegated end 2007. St Bedes played in 2013 GF and relegated end of 2014.

The comp is so open amd even that (with the exception of Carey atm) anyone can beat anyone. I’m not writing of the Bernies just yet.
 
Rooster 24 said:
In recent times Haileybury won the flag in 2006 and relegated end 2007. St Bedes played in 2013 GF and relegated end of 2014.

The comp is so open amd even that (with the exception of Carey atm) anyone can beat anyone. I’m not writing of the Bernies just yet.
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Rooster, what you say is true. But on their current form, they will win 3 games for the year........and that wont be enough I wouldnt think.
 
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