Training Preseason 2023

[Dory_77]

Training has kicked off again, homeowners of Casey beware. Feel free to post any updates or pics if you get down. Or just speculate on who looks jacked or out of shape based on club photos (or nothing at all if you like).

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Wed, 7th Dec Training Report.

When I arrived there was just players having shots at goal from the boundary line. The whistle called the players in and training began.

Goodwin, Steven May, Hibberd not in attendance.

• Joel Smith, Brayshaw, Moniz-Wakefield, Deakin Smith, Verrall, Jed Adams in the rehab group not doing a whole lot other than some run throughs.
• Jed Adams rolled his left ankle (it’s not serious) in the first 1 minute of training and then joined the rehab group.
• Ben Brown also didn’t do a whole lot. He did some kick to kick with one of the coaches (no idea who he is) who had a really nice kick on him.
• Varrell was wearing #28, Jefferson #21. Seston #38.
• Kynan Brown was also training and he will no doubt be a demon in next years draft. He has decent speed and appetite for the contest. Looks to have a good lateral step. Question marks will probably be similar to his dad: Skills and decision making although I think his skills are better thank his dad's.
• Reports of Varrell looking like a big boy are definitely true. In a few pre-seasons I can see him filling out to be as big as we want him to be. Whether it’s a Stef Martin size or someone slimmer. He has the frame to turn him into anything the coaches want.
• Oliver Sestan. The hype is real. After watching him kick, I would go as far as to say that he is one of the best kicks at the club. His ball drop is perfect and quick and there’s not much that can go wrong with it. He has fantastic penetration in his kicking. There’s a bit of Brent Moloney about him. In the full ground training match sim/drill he struggled a bit to get involved in the play but he had some nice touches. He was sort of playing on a wing which I’m guessing isn’t really his thing. The main watch on him would be his repeat efforts, reading of the play and maybe a slight watch on his overall speed in general. But overall, I was very excited with what I saw. He can definitely make the grade, if he wants to. In terms of his size and frame, he’s probably already as big and nuggety as a Jack Viney. Not so much in the arms, but he looks to have a lot of his weight in the hips. Similar to a, dare I say, Ablett Jnr.
• In the handball drills where you had to sort of handball through an opposition team without getting tackled the ones that stood out to me was Trent Rivers. Bailey Laurie also looks to have a bit more zip about him which is what my major watch on him was.
• In the same handball drill, I saw Bowey give several left handed handball. I can put that to bed now.
• Now on Jefferson, no doubt he is skinny. Super skinny. But he bobbed up and did some nice things. Pretty much all of the recruits got caught napping a few times in the full ground drills. Kynan Brown, Sestan and Jefferson all had their kicks smothered once or twice. This is the pace of the game that will take some time. Jefferson was on the receiving end of a couple of goals in the full ground drill and he defended quite well out of forward 50m.
• JVR is ready to go. Enough said.
• The coaches were Yze, Chaplin, Stafford, Matthew Whelan, Mark Williams and 1 or 2 others that I didn’t recognise.
• Lachie Hunter looks like he isn’t super fit but when has he ever really?
• Oliver looks trim and fit and healthy. In one of the drills there was a 1 on 1 ground ball against Judd McVee and McvEee ducked out of it and Clarry went straight for the ball. For fantasy nuts, don't be afraid to get Oliver into your team as your midfield premo
• Blake Howes is slowly putting on size. Realistically I think he is still another year away. He has some serious bulking to put on still.
• Daniel Turner was one of the best trainers, as was Taj Woewodin. I’m not sure what weapons Taj has but he’s in elite condition and he was covering the ground really well and he has bulked up a lot.

 

[schmuttt]

Thanks danster168 always appreciate anyone posting training thoughts

 

[The Dr]

Great training report, Danster. Thanks.

Was Petty training forward or back? That's such an intriguing decision for Goodwin and Co.


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[LarryDavidNeitz]

Good training report Danster.

Interesting about Taj Woewodin looking in great condition. Like you I’m not sure what his elite attributes are or even what his best position is but there’s definitely something about him and he’s obviously a very driven and committed young man. Hoping he might surprise us and get some senior footy this year.

 

[Dory_77]

Good training report Danster.

Interesting about Taj Woewodin looking in great condition. Like you I’m not sure what his elite attributes are or even what his best position is but there’s definitely something about him and he’s obviously a very driven and committed young man. Hoping he might surprise us and get some senior footy this year.

To me he seems to not have any outstanding attributes, but nothing too much of a weakness. Above average pace, works hard, tidy enough disposal, gutsy - had some big moments in the VFL GF. Don't think he'll be a star but could make a solid player on a wing or HBF.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

To me he seems to not have any outstanding attributes, but nothing too much of a weakness. Above average pace, works hard, tidy enough disposal, gutsy - had some big moments in the VFL GF. Don't think he'll be a star but could make a solid player on a wing or HBF.

Any VFL game I saw him play in the second half of the year he did several really nice things.

He might just be a very good footballer. He’ll need to be to crack the best 23 as he doesn’t really look like a modern flanker or winger so he’ll have to make it through being dominant in the VFL.

 

[Proper Gander]

Training has kicked off again, homeowners of Casey beware. Feel free to post any updates or pics if you get down. Or just speculate on who looks jacked or out of shape based on club photos (or nothing at all if you like).

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Thanks Dory and danster168

Good to hear Disco is training well (albeit incredibly early days). A good pre-season often seems to result in a real step-up in capability. (Stupid comment given that is the general idea of training, but I'd like to see Turner playing this year)

 

[danster168]

To me he seems to not have any outstanding attributes, but nothing too much of a weakness. Above average pace, works hard, tidy enough disposal, gutsy - had some big moments in the VFL GF. Don't think he'll be a star but could make a solid player on a wing or HBF.

Pat Lipinski type?

 

[Scythe]

Pat Lipinski type?

Feels like a reasonable comparison

 

[Tulip]

Thanks danster168. Woey sounds like his dad. Young enough to work on tidying up his skills too and he seems super motivated. Excited about him.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Shane started out looking nothing but a bit player as well, his first year with us as a back flanker was nice enough but nothing ever indicated star midfielder and Brownlow medalist.

 

[danster168]

Shane started out looking nothing but a bit player as well, his first year with us as a back flanker was nice enough but nothing ever indicated star midfielder and Brownlow medalist.

yeah, I'm also maybe getting Billy Stretch vibes. Not in a bad way but in a way where his training standards seem to be very high. Just in the way that he has transformed his body has been remarkable. i'd like to see him start getting a bit more of the ball in year 2 but I'm definitely interested in his development.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

yeah, I'm also maybe getting Billy Stretch vibes. Not in a bad way but in a way where his training standards seem to be very high. Just in the way that he has transformed his body has been remarkable. i'd like to see him start getting a bit more of the ball in year 2 but I'm definitely interested in his development.

I'd like to think that players like Woey and Laurie are given the chance to be the starting midfielders for Casey next year. Hard for them to fully develop while they were behind White, Munro, Dunstan etc. No doubt it was good for them to have some big bodies doing the grunt work but now they're further into their careers they need to be able to dominate games from the midfield at VFL level.

Chandler has reached that level of dominant VFL player now so I'd like to think he's ready to go for a more consistent run at AFL level.

 

[danster168]

I'd like to think that players like Woey and Laurie are given the chance to be the starting midfielders for Casey next year. Hard for them to fully develop while they were behind White, Munro, Dunstan etc. No doubt it was good for them to have some big bodies doing the grunt work but now they're further into their careers they need to be able to dominate games from the midfield at VFL level.

Chandler has reached that level of dominant VFL player now so I'd like to think he's ready to go for a more consistent run at AFL level.

yeah, an AFL calibre player should be getting 30 touches a week at vfl level really, so a long way for them to go but more opportunity would be good at Casey.

 

[old55]

I'd like to think that players like Woey and Laurie are given the chance to be the starting midfielders for Casey next year. Hard for them to fully develop while they were behind White, Munro, Dunstan etc. No doubt it was good for them to have some big bodies doing the grunt work but now they're further into their careers they need to be able to dominate games from the midfield at VFL level.

Chandler has reached that level of dominant VFL player now so I'd like to think he's ready to go for a more consistent run at AFL level.

They're not going to come in to the Melbourne 22 in the midfield. They need to master their likely AFL roles at VFL level.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

They're not going to come in to the Melbourne 22 in the midfield. They need to master their likely AFL roles at VFL level.

Don't really agree. Nearly nobody starts their AFL career in the centre square, but if you're a small/medium player like Woewodin and Laurie I'd want to see you going through the midfield in the VFL and dominating games. Chandler does that and he's much more an out and out small forward at AFL level than either of those two.

Pretty hard to develop a player properly if they only ever play half back flank or forward flank in the twos.

 

[danster168]

so there's photos of todays training up on the website. Of course there's 50 photos and none of the draftees. Good job photographers and I.T guys

 

[Dory_77]

so there's photos of todays training up on the website. Of course there's 50 photos and none of the draftees. Good job photographers and I.T guys

Wouldn't draftees usually be on a different program, given they've never done a professional pre-season before?
Yeah training vids/pics of them would be great but it may just be managing loads or doing different work with them.

 

[danster168]

Wouldn't draftees usually be on a different program, given they've never done a professional pre-season before?
Yeah training vids/pics of them would be great but it may just be managing loads or doing different work with them.

honestly not sure. they still attend training just as much as the other players but I know they often break off into a first year players group and do their own drills etc. from time to time. But definitely plenty of photo opportunities.

 

[mrmonkey]

I heard they tried taking photos of Matty Jefferson but he is so skinny you couldn't see him.

 

[Bluelegs]

Proper Gander

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Jesus H Christ.

 

[Bluelegs]

so there's photos of todays training up on the website. Of course there's 50 photos and none of the draftees. Good job photographers and I.T guys

It's so funny you're blaming the IT guys for the photos.

 

[Scythe]

I heard they tried taking photos of Matty Jefferson but he is so skinny you couldn't see him.

Reminds me of this

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

It's so funny you're blaming the IT guys for the photos.

Try turning it off and on again a few times and see if that makes the photos appear