Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

[Keys]

And that’s me done for preseason

Probably the best conditioning I’ve seen the squad in since I’ve been attending training.

There’s a bit to look forward to this season albeit we’ll lose more than we win and there’ll be the occasional shellacking when things come completely unstuck

Stay positive, take the good with the bad as the players learn the new game plan and Mini identifies what he has to work with. Some will thrive, others will fall away but one thing I’m sure of is that the effort and desire to compete and improve will be there

Onwards and upwards, enjoy the season

 

[Bender_]

Got a serious V body shape going on. Impressive level of work-rate and commitment at the very least.

 

[Cuzz09]

Expect to see them have the worst year since GWS inaugural.

Pretty sure we've covered them at least twice the last 3 years

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[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but some interesting stats to note from 2024.













Will be interesting to see what bearing our stylistic change has on certain stats. We didn't have a player in the top 35 for handball receives last season.

 

[Dark Sharks]

We don't get the ball enough to have players receive handballs m8

 

[Grahame]

I wouldn't be a surprised that if I simply posted the number 1 there'd be a bunch of responses stating -1.

It’d all be Baker’s fault.

 

[ghostbat12]

Was James Hird a steal at 79?

Waterman at 70 odd?

Lockie Neale and Zorko at 58?

4 examples out of about 1000 drafted after pick 40 since hird.

Do people not understand statistics?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

4 examples out of about 1000 drafted after pick 40 since hird.

Do people not understand statistics?

AFL Draft Pick Value Comparison - All Time - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

 

[WCErevival]

4 examples out of about 1000 drafted after pick 40 since hird.

Do people not understand statistics?

Statiscally unlikely isn't the same as no such thing.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

The “nimrods” who have observed him at training? Pretty obvious from photos too

Yep ‘pretty obvious’ based on nothing besides he looked a bit tubby to some onlookers in December. Never mind that he may have actually improved across his actual measured performance markers of which there are many and you have no information to the contrary to put forward.

May have been in a deliberate size / strength block in the offseason because he is a rare 19yr old that has the traits to dominate in the middle in his second season - and it’d be handy to get him closer on physical terms to the game’s best?

But yep, you can categorically say he’s just come back ‘unfit’ - again gtfo

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Definitely feels like a few more characters at the club have taken the lens away from Reid a bit this pre season.

Clubs been fairly quiet on him.

Good. Watch him rip this season up

 

[MaxHunt]

How's old mate Brockman going? Not hearing much about him.

 

[ghostbat12]

AFL Draft Pick Value Comparison - All Time - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

I like that. You need 25 picks in 50-71 range to get one all Australian. So once every 25 years-ish. Or conservatively one all Australian every 12.5 years.

Damn those recruiters.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but some interesting stats to note from 2024.


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Will be interesting to see what bearing our stylistic change has on certain stats. We didn't have a player in the top 35 for handball receives last season.

Great research and thinking, yeah it’s going to be exciting to see a change.

 

[DickDunn]

Yep ‘pretty obvious’ based on nothing besides he looked a bit tubby to some onlookers in December.

See! We agree.

Not going to get into a whole thing here, I’m a big Harley fan and the stuff he did for a first-year player was ridiculous. He also wouldn’t be the first young player to show up after his first off-season in less than ideal condition. If it turns out he has improved his tank I’ll be stoked for him

 

[Yeahnahmate]

not the least Harley showing up unfit

See! We agree.

He also wouldn’t be the first young player to show up after his first off-season in less than ideal condition.

No we don’t, and you are still stating it as fact based on appearance alone. I’ll back him in and you can hold applause until he proves to you otherwise that he’s improved his tank. Part time supporter vibes DumDick

 

[Keys]

https://archive.is/SP9ol

The main takeaway for me

The West understands Ryan had not been drinking and was leaving the event with his partner when the altercation broke out, with the footballer believed to have claimed he felt his partner was under threat before violence escalated.

Doesn’t sound like he did much wrong. Could argue he should’ve had the good sense to simply walk away but difficult to say that without being there

 

[Obeanie1]

4 examples out of about 1000 drafted after pick 40 since hird.

Do people not understand statistics?

Do you understand what the word never means?

And I could keep going with examples of very good players selected in the 40's or later.. How many would be enough?

 

[Obeanie1]

https://archive.is/SP9ol

The main takeaway for me



Doesn’t sound like he did much wrong. Could argue he should’ve had the good sense to simply walk away but difficult to say that without being there

Just watch. The "investigation" wont conclude until after the indigenous all stars game.

Then the AFL will decide what penalty if any is required.

 

[Rowan18]

https://archive.is/SP9ol

The main takeaway for me



Doesn’t sound like he did much wrong. Could argue he should’ve had the good sense to simply walk away but difficult to say that without being there

He should have got in his car and driven away. Shaping up for fisty-cuffs was pretty reckless. Seems like he knew the guy and they agreed to "duke it out" otherwise you'd imagine it would have been more of a brawl (why did his mates not jump in?). Pretty immature for a guy in his late 20s.

 

[bzparkes]

Shaping up for fisty-cuffs was pretty reckless.

Nothing wrong with a bit of fisticuffs mate.

Like a true gentleman.

 

[ghostbat12]

He should have got in his car and driven away. Shaping up for fisty-cuffs was pretty reckless. Seems like he knew the guy and they agreed to "duke it out" otherwise you'd imagine it would have been more of a brawl (why did his mates not jump in?). Pretty immature for a guy in his late 20s.

I am going to slightly disagree. That’s what you would have liked to have him done to avoid having to deal with an article. To many, it’s all “trivial”.

Thing is he would have been in a 100 situations where he actually did walk away and we call him immature for not this time.

If Ryan was defending his own, then he has my support. I know it’s inconvenient for the fan base but it’s clear issue wasn’t trivial.

 

[DanWCE]

He should have got in his car and driven away. Shaping up for fisty-cuffs was pretty reckless. Seems like he knew the guy and they agreed to "duke it out" otherwise you'd imagine it would have been more of a brawl (why did his mates not jump in?). Pretty immature for a guy in his late 20s.

I don't really know how to word this but I don't think the cultural differences can be overlooked.

Indigenous people have their own punishments for various things, and Liam would have grown up with that through his formative years. It would be second nature for him to agree to a dust up with someone who might have been mouthing off or threatening he or his partner.

There was nothing untoward in regards to other people jumping in, cheap shots, hitting or kicking someone on the ground etc. All seems pretty above board.

He also had commitments the following day for the All Stars game and wisely chose not to drink even though he promoted and attended the event. Who knows how much shit he put up with the entire festival listening to someone gob off trying to wind him up.

 

[wirra44]

He should have got in his car and driven away. Shaping up for fisty-cuffs was pretty reckless. Seems like he knew the guy and they agreed to "duke it out" otherwise you'd imagine it would have been more of a brawl (why did his mates not jump in?). Pretty immature for a guy in his late 20s.

A lot of assuming going on in this post maybe we should just wait for the investigation to conclude before offering an opinion on something you did not witness?

 

[Chris_6678]

Baker joggings laps, so cant be too serious.

 

[robbo 39]

I always check here for clips from training. Am I looking in the right place? I haven't seen one for awhile, I really appreciate them.