PRGuy to be unmasked

[cartwright]

hilarious they're referring to PRGuy as "hard left"

and



isn't this the same thing?

 

[Gethelred]

We will find out PR guy is a 20 something, white, professional Uni student, no kids, no mortgage, bullied through school whose life's work is his twitter feed.

What is the point of this post?

 

[Power Raid]

I'm so surprised given the OP was "Regardless of what you may think of PRGuy politically, is this a good thing? Bad thing? Start of the end of online anonymity?"............that so many are looking at the concept from the lens of PRGuys political position.

Should some ones rights for privacy and an extension of that their anonymity, over rule defamation or an extension of that "hate crimes"? It is actually an interesting debate, once one focuses on the concepts rather than PRGuy.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Anonymous sources from Morrison's Office briefing on Tame, Higgins etc.....no one gives a shiit

A guy on Twitter doing similar....How dare he, he must be outed

 

[Bunk Moreland]

It’s higher profile but I don’t think it’s a precedent

Fairly sure other online operators have been requested to provide use info for defamation cases

Whether they have any useful info is another question - it’s simple to sign up and use most social media platforms with a VPN and proton mail.

The law should prevail as another poster said - you can’t expect the same laws of defamation not to apply simply because you’re using a pseudonym.

Of course, the plaintiff in this case is only doing this for other reasons. Plenty of people have said bad things about him using their own names, he hasn’t tried to sue them.

 

[tandino]

I'm so surprised given the OP was "Regardless of what you may think of PRGuy politically, is this a good thing? Bad thing? Start of the end of online anonymity?"............that so many are looking at the concept from the lens of PRGuys political position.

Should some ones rights for privacy and an extension of that their anonymity, over rule defamation or an extension of that "hate crimes"? It is actually an interesting debate, once one focuses on the concepts rather than PRGuy.

What right to privacy?

People writing under pseudonyms aren't immune from being caught up in a defamation action. There's no such thing as anonymity.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

What right to privacy?

People writing under pseudonyms aren't immune from being caught up in a defamation action. There's no such thing as anonymity.

its not ******* hard. want to remain private, dont break the ******* law

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Can we do the same to the QAnon online nutjobs please?

no, because they are real humans and not corporations, and as such are not able to be sanctioned by our non-magna carta approved corporate laws

 

[Not Important]

What are the tweets which have provoked the defamation claim ?

it’s a legitimate question. haven’t seen the judge’s statement, but surely it’s incumbent on her to b sure this isn’t just a fishing expedition. defo proceedings r very expensive. where’s he getting the funds?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

it’s a legitimate question. haven’t seen the judge’s statement, but surely it’s incumbent on her to b sure this isn’t just a fishing expedition. defo proceedings r very expensive. where’s he getting the funds?

if the judge is giving the nod im assuming its not

 

[Not Important]

if the judge is giving the nod im assuming its not

"assuming" being the operative word. i'm not sure it's her role to b sure in this instance which is a fault if so.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Anonymous sources from Morrison's Office briefing on Tame, Higgins etc.....no one gives a shiit

A guy on Twitter doing similar....How dare he, he must be outed

It's about publishing.......but of course you knew that.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

"assuming" being the operative word. i'm not sure it's her role to b sure in this instance which is a fault if so.

if we are gunna start bagging judges, lets bag them when we know they are not acting properly. there is no evidence that this is an unreasonable request

 

[Donakebab]

what did you study at uni?

Street smrts from the skool of hard knocks.

 

[Caesar]

isn't this the same thing?

depends on whether she uses her anonymous account to post defamatory material

 

[Brad Goodman]

 

[Ice-Wolf]

hilarious they're referring to PRGuy as "hard left"

and



isn't this the same thing?

Hmmm Credlin = PRGuy17 confirmed!

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I forget who it was, but i remember one account once was actually a kind of sock puppet for various disgruntled people to post in (USA not here).

make tracking it harder, because the usual tells for tracing leaks got completely confused

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Plenty of people have said bad things about him using their own names, he hasn’t tried to sue them.

Because it's not defamation if it is true. As far as I can tell everything PRGuy17 has tweeted about Avi would fall within the realm of truth.

 

[mill204]

If the identity of the PR Guy is discovered and litigation follows let's hope the applicant is forced to prove his case at trial, with all the possible attendant costs both financial and in other respects. Purely surmising, should the PR Guy set up a Crowd Funding account to cover legal costs it would be oversubscribed.

Did Twitter throw PR Guy under the bus?

Either way, in this case, Twitter isn’t being forced — it agreed to divulge such information. Twitter declined to comment.

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Federal/P/VID70/2022/3931982/event/31083547/document/1955083

PRGuy17 and friendlyjordies cases show the internet isn't above defamation law. But does it need to change?

Cases involving two high-profile internet creators have gained much attention. The situation is novel, but the cases are fairly clear-cut.

www.crikey.com.au

 

[cartwright]

depends on whether she uses her anonymous account to post defamatory material

Would you say what PRGuy has tweeted is defamatory?

 

[CM86]

Because it's not defamation if it is true. As far as I can tell everything PRGuy17 has tweeted about Avi would fall within the realm of truth.

It's just to reveal their identity. Then they'll drop the case.


Should make note of the posters who are supporting Avi.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Tough one.

In a run of the mill case I don't have much of an issue with it, though in this one context is important and it doesn't sit comfortably with me.

I have little time for PRguy but I have a serious issue with someone like Avi Yemini, a violent convicted criminal with a history of harassment and directing his supporters to follow suit, being able to essentially dox someone and subsequently put the owner in severe danger of being harassed or worse without so much as the case being tested. Especially if the owner of the handle is not even afforded the opportunity to present those concerns before the order

In an ideal world, the court would be provided the identity and the identity only provided to Yemini if the defamation case is upheld.

 

[NSWCROW]

Tough one.

In a run of the mill case I don't have much of an issue with it, though in this one context is important and it doesn't sit comfortably with me.

I have little time for PRguy but I have a serious issue with someone like Avi Yemini, a violent convicted criminal with a history of harassment and directing his supporters to follow suit, being able to essentially dox someone and subsequently put the owner in severe danger of being harassed or worse without so much as the case being tested. Especially if the owner of the handle is not even afforded the opportunity to present those concerns before the order

In an ideal world, the court would be provided the identity and the identity only provided to Yemini if the defamation case is upheld.

That's all this is about.

Bully s**t.
To send a message to " all who defy him "

 

[swingdog]

It's just to reveal their identity. Then they'll drop the case.


Should make note of the posters who are supporting Avi.

I wonder if Avi knows who it is.