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ChampRevesby said:
It's because he has no leg speed. He just can not run and carry nor make the right decisions by foot. This lack of leg speed also hurts when the opposition spreads, he just can not mark players. He gets massive stats because of the scragging he does when the ball is in a ruck situation. As soon as the ball is released then he becomes a liability.
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It's not just speed either. Players like Mitchell can buy themselves time. Shimmy here, shimmy there, bit of awareness, so no need to bang it on the boot. More time to make clear decisions.

I know we're talking apples and spuds, but look at Pendlebury on the weekend. Deep traffic, couple of shimmies and the pack just parted for him. Priddis just doesn't have the chops to do any of this. Even Shuey did some of this gear yesterday. Shuey is already a far better player than Priddis.
 
Priddis isn't the problem. It's that we've got a midfield of Priddis-like players and there's no one who's his opposite. There hasn't been anyone like the player we need since Judd left.

Get rid of Priddis and everyone will complain that Masten is too slow and doesn't do enough with it.
 
char said:
The fact that this thread exists is unbelievable, let alone the fact that the all-knowing West Coast BF hivemind has talked themselves into thinking along these lines. Simply atrocious.

Priddis is a deserving club legend, end of story. Not everyone can be a Judd or a Cotchin - Priddis excels at the role he is expected to play - AFLCA votes are proof of this.
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Wait, Priddis is a legend now? Right up there with Matera, Jakovich, Cousins and Judd? Please. He has been a solid, loyal servant, a good player at best. He is not a match winner, he is not a star, he is not a legend.

To those saying trade him, who is going to give us anything decent for him? And no, GWS won't take him.
 
bunsen burner said:
It's not just speed either. Players like Mitchell can buy themselves time. Shimmy here, shimmy there, bit of awareness, so no need to bang it on the boot. More time to make clear decisions.

I know we're talking apples and spuds, but look at Pendlebury on the weekend. Deep traffic, couple of shimmies and the pack just parted for him. Priddis just doesn't have the chops to do any of this. Even Shuey did some of this gear yesterday. Shuey is already a far better player than Priddis.
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The big difference between elite midfielders and our mob is not talent per se but strength and balance. Elite mids break free by simply turning their shoulders or hips and doing that at full pace its impossible to stop. Can't count how many times their mids broke tackles by simply turning their bodies. We seriously need to start questioning our strength and conditioning regime because regardless of who we have in the middle and how much talent they have, if we don't get big bodies with balance to carry the ball then we might as well all go home.
 

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If Priddis received a tap and handballed accurately to an open target you'd say he was doing his job. Seasons (even games) gone by this is exactly what he was doing. So why the change?

If he's handballing and missing targets, it's either a decline in his skill, or an issue with the targets not getting open.

If he continues to bang it on the boot, it's either a choice he makes, or a direction from the coaching staff to do so.

I don't know which is correct, either way it is something that our coaching panel needs to address, and I don't think they are doing so.
 
jaxxon said:
Wait, Priddis is a legend now? Right up there with Matera, Jakovich, Cousins and Judd? Please. He has been a solid, loyal servant, a good player at best. He is not a match winner, he is not a star, he is not a legend.

To those saying trade him, who is going to give us anything decent for him? And no, GWS won't take him.
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I'm staying out of this one, but gee, there is a lot of Priddis hate :eek:
 
Marlin01 said:
There's an article about Priddis on the Eagles website. It's a strange piece in that it isn't spawned from a media conference or an upcoming event.
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You'd be forgiven for thinking Stocks had read this thread and wanted to add his piece!
 
I've made my opinions clear over the last 4 years, well enough. He's an average footballer who makes our midfield mediocre. Non-creative, non-agile, a liability in space, average skills, decision making and composure. Pure mediocrity.

The issue is also largely with our setup. I mentioned on the other thread how a large portion of ruck work work is designed to hit it down his throat (also part of the reason he gets a lot of clearances)...it's laughable, when he have guys like Shuey there, and now Wellingham. One of the worst things I saw this year at a game was Shuey putting on numerous blocks for Priddis around stoppages (happens every game, but I think it was the Roos game that it was most apparent)...now, blocking for your teammates is great and kudos to Shuey...but the fact that our most attacking, damaging mid is blocking for a mediocre player is a downright disgrace.
We've had NN admit he's the 'general of the stoppages' which is again, laughable, and goes to show once more why our mdifield is a joke.

How about we move Priddis on, go hard at the draft/trade table this year for some quality mids, put some more inside minutes into Wellingham, Shuey, Masten and Scooter, and get a new midfield coach, and let's see where it takes us in 2014.

Of course, instead, we'll probably end up with Wellingham playing off a flank, and NN using his remarkable athleticism to hit it down Priddis' gob...I can't wait. Just as I can't wait for Priddis to tear it up against a nothing team and everyone to forget what a liability he is and proclaim 'Oh he's not so bad'.
 

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FiveStrings said:
You'd be forgiven for thinking Stocks had read this thread and wanted to add his piece!
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Seems pretty obvious.

Never thought I'd see the day when the Eagles turn into an insular boys club unable to look at the club objectively and make the tough calls. If we keep going with Woosha and Priddis I can see outbreaks of outrage in a few years time.

Very surprised the AFL media haven't gone to town on just how insipid the Eagles are given the list.

Woosha's the pre-eminant legend of our club and tough calls need to be made. Have a source who says he's already told the club he's going but that's not airtight.
 
Eagle87 said:
Good God, who in the club is feeding this stuff to Stocks?

"Our best player against Sydney"... **** off.

I guess we can expect him getting a vote from one of the coaches again.
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What a load of toss, clearly none of the Eagle staff are able to think critically or objectively. :mad:
Edit: Ok that article is almost certainly a direct rebuttable to most of the comments in this thread.
 
bunsen burner said:
Right you muppets, time to put the last of the dying "Priddis is great" in your place.

He's a liability. People have been saying this for over 5 years:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/priddis.447380/

Why can't the you see this?

The match committee know more than his detractors? This is the same MC that still picks Adam Selwood so you're clutching at straws there.

So why do so many think he is shit and go mental over him all the time?

In a nutshell, because he is detrimental to our team's balance, style of play, and development. He's so ****ing slow his only trick is to get the ball in tight conjestion. Means our ruckmen are tapping it down to him and he's getting wrapped up. If somehow he gets a clearance the opposition have plan B - drop a guy a few meters inside the square at their CHB because sure enough Priddis will blindly snap it to that same "hotspot".

Do you remember when Judd used to grab a clearance, run out of the centre and hit up a lead or kick a goal. Well because of Priddis and the style we play to accommodate him, none of our midfielder really have that opportunity. I see all the other teams get really good clearances. We very really get clean clearances. It's because of the way we play to accommodate Priddis.

We should have traded him 6 years ago, 5 years ago, 4 years ago, 3 years ago, 2 years ago, last season, and this one coming.

There's a lot of things wrong with the Eagles on field right now but it all stems from our midfield and the centrepiece of that midfield is Priddis. Move Priddis out and we can start playing a more damaging brand of footy.

I just can't believe how badly Woosha has got it wrong for 5 years. And don't bother sticking up for him - this is a guy who has been playing Selwood for the last 4 years as well.

Time for you Priddis lovers to learn something about footy.
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THIS IS DISGRACEFUL and I Take Great Offense at your remarks

Regardless of the whole Pro Priddis Anti Pridis staements my beef is with people who take such high affrontary to denigrate other posters simply because they have a differing opinion.
I thought the whole idea of forums was to have opinions and to share them. But we have forums where people get abused, called names and opinions are lambasted.

I enjoy reading other peoples views and repesct them even if i dont agree with them all of the time; there are some very knowledgeable posters who are passionate fans and have real points of view that they feel are very relevant. Why cant we read them, agree or disagree with them with respectable comments.

I disagree with your point of view on Priddis but i feel very comfortable in my knowledge of the game; as does a 12 yr coach, a highly respectable tactician like Walsh, young up and coming coaches, opposing coaches, respected past coaches and peers - but were muppets.

Why do posters have to take the bullying Moderators?
 

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southjoy said:
THIS IS DISGRACEFUL and I Take Great Offense at your remarks

Regardless of the whole Pro Priddis Anti Pridis staements my beef is with people who take such high affrontary to denigrate other posters simply because they have a differing opinion.
I thought the whole idea of forums was to have opinions and to share them. But we have forums where people get abused, called names and opinions are lambasted.

I enjoy reading other peoples views and repesct them even if i dont agree with them all of the time; there are some very knowledgeable posters who are passionate fans and have real points of view that they feel are very relevant. Why cant we read them, agree or disagree with them with respectable comments.

I disagree with your point of view on Priddis but i feel very comfortable in my knowledge of the game; as does a 12 yr coach, a highly respectable tactician like Walsh, young up and coming coaches, opposing coaches, respected past coaches and peers - but were muppets.

Why do posters have to take the bullying Moderators?
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tldr
 
southjoy said:
THIS IS DISGRACEFUL and I Take Great Offense at your remarks
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Why do posters have to take the bullying[,]Moderators?
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Sorry, I'm with you now. I thought you were accusing moderators of bullying.

The OP was a little heavy handed but it came at the conclusion of a 6-goal loss - many posters are overly emotional at that point.

I agree with you that it would be fantastic if we could all debate things reasonably and respectfully, and we try to keep it that way.

I'm not sure though why you take such great offence at the OP. Apart from starting off with "OK you muppets" the vitriol was aimed at Priddis, not any specific posters and, particularly, wasn't aimed at you in any way.

So can we keep the discussion about Priddis and not about the tone a debate should take. If you think something goes over the line report it and we can look at it.
 
Pridda is a fantastic player, a useful player, but yes excruciatingly slow. Its a tough one, his hand speed is exceptional, but kick and leag speed ordiary. If we had say two rocketships in there, then maybe we would still want Pridda for a role, but atm against the elite mids he get smoked. Cant fault the guys professionalism though, its just that that fact alone wont get us to where we need to be.
I dont think Schuey , Selwood and Co have come along to the level the WCE management thought they would...so i guess its tough decision time for the WCE hierarchy.

tough reading all the Pridda thoughts...but true unfortunately......watched him chasing a few times this year...No chance in hell of catching anyone. Top bloke though...
 
Priddis isn't a liability individually, the whole midfield is a liability. All of them have various strengths making their claims to a midfield spot tenable. However as a collective for the last 3 years they haven't been good enough.

Priddis would slip into Collingwood's midfield (replacing Luke Ball) and they wouldn't notice much difference. He'd slot into Freo's midfield replacing Mick Barlow.

The problem is Priddis is our chief banana. That isn't his fault mind you. But a midfield with Priddis as the main midfielder isn't going to be elite.

He should be second string, like Ball is at Collingwood. The guy that comes on and wins clearances and keeps the midfield ticking over whilst the others get a rest. To do that he needs to make himself useful forward of centre when not playing guts.

We have too many forwards/backs who can't run through the guys meaning our midfielders have to shoulder the burden for the entire game.

Take Collingwood as an example, Ball/Swan/Sidebottom/Beams/Blair all spend time in the forward line. About the only one who doesn't is pendlebury.

How often do we see Kerr/Shuey/Priddis/Gaff/Selwood resting forward nowadays? Doesn't happen. Part of the reason is that Lecras, hill, darling can't take over.

Our midfield is a major issue, however it's not just the 6-8 blokes who get the most midfield time, nor is it just Priddis.
 
The Falcon Strike said:
How often do we see Kerr/Shuey/Priddis/Gaff/Selwood resting forward nowadays? Doesn't happen. Part of the reason is that Lecras, hill, darling can't take over.
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:thumbsu: Totally agree, no depth or utility that can rotate through our midfield. Part of the reason we can't run out games and drop off for 10 mins a qtr.


I'm really liking peoples commentary today, all really well thought out posts.
 

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