Priddis

[bunsen burner]

Priddis' brilliance is that when he was out, we had no one doing this.

Keep him in for that reason alone...

This is not brilliance - he's just doing something that no one else can do (except Kerr of course)

 

[bunsen burner]

How do you rate Brett Kirk Bunsen Burner?

Essentially they are exactly the same player

Kirk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Priddis

Some style of player but Kirk has the ability to find more time to make the right decision and hit's targets from his in and under.

Whilst Priddis may improve and gain this ability, no one is really sayng "Priddis is looking good and will be a star if he improves", they're saying "BOG, star, Brownlow, etc".

 

[bunsen burner]

You wanna watch a tape? Watch lasts years 2 finals against port and collingwood and see who isn't an a grade midfielder u f@#%*n goon

Strange comment made at someone who on this board, is more on the money than anyone else on here. Go have a look at the threads when we drafted Judd. Go have a look at the threads on Daniel McConnell. Go have a looik on the threads on Jako's captainsy chances. Go have a look at what was posted the day Cousins was suspended.

You're calling the wrong person a goon you f***ing idiot.

 

[bunsen burner]

He's no Judd or Ablett, but he's a gun at what he does.
Gets the pill in tight, applies defensive pressure so opposition mids don't get easy clearances, and runs hard to provide support to other midfielders.

Agree to an extent.

There wouldn't be anyone on here who thinks Priddis can turn a game off his won boot, or put on a match winning performance.

Actually, there's more than a few.

That shouldn't mean his efforts and hard work on the field should go unrecognised.

He was not in the 2 best players on ground last night.

 

[bunsen burner]

What more does the man have to do to get everyones respect? Last years finals series was enough to show that hes more than B grade. Hes clearly quite an important player for us.

Hang on a sec. I've never said I don't rate him or he's not important. I'm saying he's over rated and was not in the best 2 players on the ground last night.

Many have linked hm with "Gun player", "Future Brownlow winner", "Eagle's most important player", "Tier 1 midfielder", "Worth a top 5 pick" etc. have smply said he's a solid player.

I'm not the one who's wrong here.

 

[Alphanumeric]

After 2nite i only know how to say 1 word now...
EMBLEY EMBLEY EMBLEY!

Yeah I agree. He has really stepped up over the past 3 weeks.

He should be getting the ball 25 times a game, but more importantly he needs to be kicking a couple of game like he did against the Crows.

 

[bunsen burner]

It is pleasureable when a player gets the ball and disposes to clear advantage. I always get a buzz out of that. Intelligent football.

Are we watching the same player. Go look at a tape from last night - i'd say easily 1 third were not to clear advantage.

Sure Priddis deserves kudos.

What's in question is how much he deserves. He will not win a brownlow, he is not worth a top 5 pick, he is not a tier 1 midfielder, and he wasn't BOG last night.

Bunsen, your tone....

What are you on about?

 

[bunsen burner]

bunsen judges Priddis the way many judge Lynch. Where did Priddis come from again? How much does he get paid? Which other players in his position do we have that are clearly better?

Anything else you like to make up?

I judge him on his ability. Nothing more. I am not the one spruiking Brownlows, tp 5 picks, tier 1 midfilder, BOG etc.

 

[bunsen burner]

BB isn't complaining that Priddis isn't good enough, he's just bemused at the masses of West Coast supporters who seem to rate him as a star of the competition. He is excellent at winning the footy, but he often makes bad decisions under pressure or misses the target with his disposal.

Priddis is a very good player to have rotating through the midfield and winning some contested footy, but he is not elite as so many are suggesting. He is too ineffective when he gets the ball to be in the same class as Black, Ablett, Bartel etc.

Hit the nail on the head. Thanks.

 

[Obeanie1]

8 clearances under pressure but he gets negative press?

Sells to may players into trouble who are calling for the ball??

Doesnt shrug tackles yet 8 times managed to wriggle out of what? Thin air?

Very good, solid game tonight, in just his second game back from a knee injury.

But yeah if it makes you fell better Bunsen, he was ok.

You are being far too tough on Pridis Bunsen.......what did he ever do to you, steal your girl, go out with your daughter or something

Pridis was very good last night, got the ball 33 times and got the #1 tag.

With him and Kerr out of the side we were getting killed at clearances. If he gets it 33 times it means the opposition didn't get it, 8 clearences means the ball is going our way not into defence.

Embely was GREAT at half back.....best move of the year

AND we won without Judd, Cuz AND Kerr, we ever done that before????

 

[Eagle87]

Hit the nail on the head. Thanks.

BB, I went down exactly the same path as you are about 6 weeks back and was similarly castigated by elements of the foaming rabble.

I agree with you 100%. I made the point that a premiership midfield would likely have Priddis as a 4th or 5th option mid - a very good rotation guy who adds something to the onball division, is important but not your gun. There are plenty on here who seem to think he is a top liner and he simply isnt. He is a good ordinary player.

 

[bunsen burner]

You are being far too tough on Pridis Bunsen.......what did he ever do to you, steal your girl, go out with your daughter or something

What exactly have I said? I have only said:

1) He was not BOG (or second) last night
2) Is not an A grade midfielder
3) Is not worth a top 5 pick
4) Is not Brownlow material
5) Often put's player under pressure when he dishes off

I'm not seeing what is "far too harsh". Perhaps you can point it out to me?

 

[imright]

I don't think it's a co-incidence that when Priddis has played the Eagles have played their best footy, even when Kerr has been absent. I think his influence on the team is far better than that of a good ordinary player.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

BB, I went down exactly the same path as you are about 6 weeks back and was similarly castigated by elements of the foaming rabble.

I agree with you 100%. I made the point that a premiership midfield would likely have Priddis as a 4th or 5th option mid - a very good rotation guy who adds something to the onball division, is important but not your gun. There are plenty on here who seem to think he is a top liner and he simply isnt. He is a good ordinary player.

When you feel up to justifying your bizarre perception with facts maybe you can show me a 4th or 5th option midfielder of Geelong or our 2006 team or Sydney who has averaged 28 possessions been in the top 5 contested possessions despite having played 3 less games than the rest of the midfield you might have a point. But like Brent Harvey who no one other than North fans appreciate I'm happy for you to disregard him. I mean if opposition clubs do that they'll get pumped but hey if you want to compare him to Judd and Cuzzy he's not there yet but oh well if he's our 4th level midfielder our 1st level will average 40 possessions kick 2 goals each game and set up 4 or 5 goals a game can't wait to see this guy.

 

[Savannah]

I don't think it's a co-incidence that when Priddis has played the Eagles have played their best footy, even when Kerr has been absent. I think his influence on the team is far better than that of a good ordinary player.

100% agree

 

[Altum Volantes]

Reality is probably somewhere between the poison that bb spits and Brownlow declarations..

Either way, we are a far better team with him back in the side.

 

[Kempie]

BB, I went down exactly the same path as you are about 6 weeks back and was similarly castigated by elements of the foaming rabble.

Well, I was generally agreeing with you at the time, the main point being that while he was getting the ball, he wasn't actually hurting the opposition, mainly because of his poor disposal.

I believe he's getting a lot better at that lately, so my estimation of him has correspondingly gone up. Maybe he isn't top-line but he seems to be getting up there. God knows he tries !

 

[bunsen burner]

When you feel up to justifying your bizarre perception with facts maybe you can show me a 4th or 5th option midfielder of Geelong or our 2006 team or Sydney who has averaged 28 possessions been in the top 5 contested possessions despite having played 3 less games than the rest of the midfield you might have a point.

This just shows your lack of understand of footy. It's not about possessions. If Priddis played for Geelong, he wouldn't be getting 28 posessions. Ablett, Bartel, Corey, and Selwood would be getting them. He'd be a bench player. Those players are simply classier players. Priddis would complement them as a fringe ball player. Whilst he may be able to get more ball, he is not as polished as those players and his "upside" or "profitability" is nowhere near those players.

But like Brent Harvey who no one other than North fans appreciate I'm happy for you to disregard him.

1. Harvey is well respected
2. Priddis is nowhere near the class of Harvey. Harvey uses the ball so much better.

I mean if opposition clubs do that they'll get pumped but hey if you want to compare him to Judd and Cuzzy he's not there yet

He will never be in that league. Ever.

but oh well if he's our 4th level midfielder our 1st level will average 40 possessions kick 2 goals each game and set up 4 or 5 goals a game can't wait to see this guy.

Possessions You just don't get it.

He needs to be our 4th best midfielder for us to be a real genuine chance. That doesn't mean our tier 1's will get 40 possessions, just means they will use the ball more effectively and efficiently, or will have ability to win games off their own boot with burst play and inspirational skill.

Priddis is a Kayne Johnson or Richie Vandenberg type player (just better than those two). He's not a Brent Harvey, Shane Crawford, or Tyson Edwards.

 

[imright]

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Priddis is a Kayne Johnson or Richie Vandenberg type player (just better than those two).

I think you seriously underrate Priddis if you're comparing him to those 2.

Priddis isn't flashy like Kerr but he has just as much substance and he brings his teammates into the game by winning the contested balls.

Something which has seriously been missing since his absence.

 

[PREM06]

Possessions You just don't get it.

He needs to be our 4th best midfielder for us to be a real genuine chance. That doesn't mean our tier 1's will get 40 possessions, just means they will use the ball more effectively and efficiently, or will have ability to win games off their own boot with burst play and inspirational skill.

Priddis is a Kayne Johnson or Richie Vandenberg type player (just better than those two). He's not a Brent Harvey, Shane Crawford, or Tyson Edwards.

Well basing that last comparison on last night's game I would have said that Priddis was a class ahead of Edwards (he had a shocker) and lets not forget that it was only Priddis second game back from injury and he has only played what about 30 games!

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

This just shows your lack of understand of footy. It's not about possessions. If Priddis played for Geelong, he wouldn't be getting 28 posessions. Ablett, Bartel, Corey, and Selwood would be getting them. He'd be a bench player. Those players are simply classier players. Priddis would complement them as a fringe ball player. Whilst he may be able to get more ball, he is not as polished as those players and his "upside" or "profitability" is nowhere near those players.


1. Harvey is well respected
2. Priddis is nowhere near the class of Harvey. Harvey uses the ball so much better.

He will never be in that league. Ever.

Possessions You just don't get it.

He needs to be our 4th best midfielder for us to be a real genuine chance. That doesn't mean our tier 1's will get 40 possessions, just means they will use the ball more effectively and efficiently, or will have ability to win games off their own boot with burst play and inspirational skill.

Priddis is a Kayne Johnson or Richie Vandenberg type player (just better than those two). He's not a Brent Harvey, Shane Crawford, or Tyson Edwards.

Not much point discussing it with you then is there? What else do you measure a midfielder by then? You tell me. Comparing him to Richie Vandenberg is laughable in fact like feeding a troll your stupidity becomes more and more evident the more I respond. He'll never be in Brent Harvey's league? Are you a clairvoyant? You apparently think you can predict how Priddis would go in the Geelong midfield. That's interesting but ultimately a stupid and redundant comparison. How he'd go behind Judd and Cousins is about as relevant as how he'd go behind Ablett and Bartel. Take most top tier players and put them in the same midfield as them and they'd probably suffer to. Having said that comparing him to two former club captains both of which are unfairly targeted for criticism (was it Vandenbergs fault his body failed him?) and Kane johnson (terrible player apparently?) is instructive.

 

[bunsen burner]

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Well basing that last comparison on last night's game I would have said that Priddis was a class ahead of Edwards (he had a shocker) and lets not forget that it was only Priddis second game back from injury and he has only played what about 30 games!

Great, let's compare two players on one game. Stupid stupid post. What were you thinking?

 

[bunsen burner]

Not much point discussing it with you then is there? What else do you measure a midfielder by then? You tell me.

1. Here you claim ability is measured by stats. Your credibility = 0.
2. I've told you many times what midfielders can be measured on. Amnesia, or just plain stupid?

 

[PREM06]

OK you just keep on bagging a player who in the last two weeks has had a huge impact on the team.........It seems that you are comparing him to players with 150 or so games to their names...I ask you was Tyson Edwards the number 1 midfielder for Adelaide after 30 or so games? I think not, he has developed into the player he is over a number of years.....

 

[QL 21]

I think Priddis has a fairly clear role, get as many clearances and contest possessions as possible. His kicking isn't great, so I would prefer him to dish it off by hand, but that's not a huge problem.

I think he's vital for the development of our young mids. Leave Priddis at the bottom of the packs dishing the ball out, we don't want our young guys getting pummeled by the bigger body of the opposition mids each week.

Would love to see Priddis work on his kicking even more (it has got much better) but he did have a great game last night.

16 contested possessions, 8 clearances, 6 I50's, 7 tackles