Priddis

[Biggie]

Then you agree with me.

Yes.

I was hoping for Sideshow to lift to the next level but he hasnt. Tbh honest bar Cox all the senior players been exposed.

I still rate as good footballer however and he always gives 100%, he just isnt A grade.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

in these tough times you need a priddis to take some of the heat off the kids but watching him on sat he was awfully slow.so many times you could see him to the side of screen following 4-5 mtrs behind the play.esp noticible when they were attacking.he made no effort to make up the required metres to get involved in the play.i think he was waiting for the turnover so he could give an option/run forward.he needs to get more involved.ive only seen him do one full on bawk to his right and it was a beauty.hes far to one dimensional.but as stated we need him at the moment.once we establish our midfield he would probably be our 6-9th best fill a gap midfielder.

 

[Mr Q]

The only person trying to prove himself is Mr Qukwit. I don't ever initiate conversation with him. The only time we ever converse is when he intiates his hero routine.

You really are the Internet Hero aren't you bunsen? I was replying to specific posts, none of which were yours until you started replying to me (which would indicate you initiating conversation). If you don't like what I have to say, I invite you to use the ignore function, though I can see you prefer to just use unnecessary and crude insults instead.

The debate was quite simple: "Is Priddis an A grade mid fielder or not?" (or thereabouts). But many who actually agree that he's not had to push their personal agenda.

What, in a thread that's got 170 odd replies, it's moved on a bit from your original post? Gee, how could that possibly have happened. How dare anyone actually move away from the topic posted by the great bunsen burner?

 

[Mr Q]

in these tough times you need a priddis to take some of the heat off the kids ....

In most respects, he is one of the kids - remember, he was the club's rookie of the year only last year.

In these tough times you need a Kerr to take some of the heat off the kids - but of course, he's suspended. Or indeed Stenglein. Or perhaps Cousins, but he ensured that couldn't happen.

 

[Prem87]

Fair enough.

I feel he is a required midfielder but not the marquee player we are longing for.

Exactly. But he is still only 23. He has plenty time to develop. He wont be a superstar of the game, but he could possibly become elite..Lenny Hayes like, he just needs to work on several aspects of his game. Decisions making, kicking penetration, running into space, speed.

 

[bunsen burner]

You really are the Internet Hero aren't you bunsen? I was replying to specific posts, none of which were yours until you started replying to me (which would indicate you initiating conversation). If you don't like what I have to say, I invite you to use the ignore function, though I can see you prefer to just use unnecessary and crude insults instead.



What, in a thread that's got 170 odd replies, it's moved on a bit from your original post? Gee, how could that possibly have happened. How dare anyone actually move away from the topic posted by the great bunsen burner?

You have actually been sitting here and accusing me of not replying to your fabricated argument. waaaanker.

 

[Mr Q]

You have actually been sitting here and accusing me of not replying to your fabricated argument. waaaanker.

No, you replied, but you used what appears to be a standard modus operandi of yours, to whit you declared that I don't know anything about football. Then decided to describe me as a knob.

That you can't make a point without resorting to name calling is a pretty good indicator of where you stand - as I said, you're the typical Internet Hero, hiding behind your keyboard and bitching at anyone that dares to disagree with you - or even dares to follow a script that you didn't write.

 

[Eagle87]

Exactly. But he is still only 23. He has plenty time to develop. He wont be a superstar of the game, but he could possibly become elite..Lenny Hayes like, he just needs to work on several aspects of his game. Decisions making, kicking penetration, running into space, speed.

He will be 24 at the beginning of next season.

Please run through a list of players who were ordinary at 23 who became elite subsequently.

I suspect the list will be short.

PS: Lenny Hayes for example had won a club B&F and AA selection at the same age.

 

[Eagle87]

No, you replied, but you used what appears to be a standard modus operandi of yours, to whit you declared that I don't know anything about football. Then decided to describe me as a knob.

That you can't make a point without resorting to name calling is a pretty good indicator of where you stand - as I said, you're the typical Internet Hero, hiding behind your keyboard and bitching at anyone that dares to disagree with you - or even dares to follow a script that you didn't write.

So what is you view on Priddis?

Vis a vis, is he an A grade, gun footballer or is he way more of a middle of the road plodder who was wildly overrated by some on this board?

If you take option 1 (A grade, gun) can you please provide reasons and examples as to what particularly about his game has him heading in that direction?

 

[Mr Q]

So what is you view on Priddis?

Vis a vis, is he an A grade, gun footballer or is he way more of a middle of the road plodder who was wildly overrated by some on this board?

If you take option 1 (A grade, gun) can you please provide reasons and examples as to what particularly about his game has him heading in that direction?

I said it's too early to tell - because he's played only 38 games, and is still a very inexperienced AFL level midfielder - and because he's playing without support from those around him.

Like all midfielders, he's part of a group. Judd or Cousins wouldn't have been as good if they were the only effective midfielder in the team. Priddis is not going to be as good as them - but then almost no midfielders are - but he can be a very high quality midfielder, when he has some support. His season this year has been pretty good for a second year player.

My view is to review this once he's been in the system for 4-5 years, got to 70-80 games and once there's actually a midfield brigade for him to be a part of. Priddis knows how to get the ball, and knows how to lock it in (he still lays more tackles than any other player at the club). His disposal looks shit at the moment - and in truth isn't good, but it's not helped by the fact that when he gets the ball, he's getting it under intense pressure.

I think he will provide us more over his career than Fletcher did (and Fletcher was an AA player), and will be a very good midfielder. Whether he can rise to elite level is another matter, but I'm not about to write him off because he has a few bad games in the early part of a career in a team that would make anyone look horrible.

 

[Crimson King]

Will be like Corey at his best and nothing else, Mr.Q. And that isnt a bad thing.

 

[bunsen burner]

No, you replied, but you used what appears to be a standard modus operandi of yours, to whit you declared that I don't know anything about football. Then decided to describe me as a knob.

Actually champ, when there was a debate going on about how is is over rated, you came in a chimed in with "he's only played 38 games". You completely missed the point of the discussion, but took it upon yourself to take a side.

As for saying I said you know nothing about football? Didn't say it. Have never said it. Unless USA Eagle is one of your aliases.

As for calling you a knob? I sure did say it. If you don't like it, then stop acting like a knob. This isn't an isolated incident. And don't delude yourself that I called you a knob because you disagreed with me. I called you a knob because you were in fact being a knob.

That you can't make a point without resorting to name calling is a pretty good indicator of where you stand

Ever wondered why I make a point and call you a knob, and other people I just make a point? Do the maths.

- as I said, you're the typical Internet Hero, hiding behind your keyboard and bitching at anyone that dares to disagree with you - or even dares to follow a script that you didn't write.

You poor victim. ps I'm not the one who invents arguments and then jumps up and down when people don't justify their non existent counter stance. I don't think you're in a position to call any a hero. You're nothing but a dick in cape.

 

[bunsen burner]

Will be like Corey at his best and nothing else, Mr.Q. And that isnt a bad thing.

He'll be closer to Corey Worthington than Joel Corey.

 

[Crimson King]

He'll be closer to Corey Worthington than Joel Corey.

Oh yeh?

Go on then bb, tell us how do you see him at his best? Give him a comparison to a player.

I am thinking you didnt see Corey when he was around 23.

 

[Mr Q]

<dribble>

In lieu of continuing down to your level, I'll just stick you on ignore rather than waste time reading the crud you type in some delusion you're in some way correct at all times. Have a nice ego-trip there bunny boy.

 

[Eagle87]

Oh yeh?

Go on then bb, tell us how do you see him at his best? Give him a comparison to a player.

I am thinking you didnt see Corey when he was around 23.

You seriously see him as a Joel Corey?

This is why the thread was started, completely unrealistic opinions based on nothing at all.

He lacks Corey's skill, vision and general ability.

All Priddis can do is get the ball, once he has it he has ordinary disposal and even less vision. He may improve his kicking, he may improve his pace (doubtful) and he may improve his tackling but he wont improve his vision. He didnt have vision as a junior, or at Subi or now. You either have vision or you dont. I mean Priddis has similar physical skills to Simon Black but its the ability to create with handball or a kick that sets Black apart, he sees things others dont - this applies to most elite mids and frankly most B grade mids are a fair way ahead of Priddis.

The fact that he has played 38 games and therefore "should" get better is just hope. Most AFL players never get to 100 games, because somewhere between 0 and 100 they finally are moved aside for better options. They dont all automatically improve because they play more - this would likely be even more relevant with a guy who is 23 and has won a Sandover - I mean this is likely all he has got.

He is a goodish ordinary player and that will be his epitaph. Throwing out names like Corey without any reference to their skillsets is just stupid. Are you David Schwartz?

 

[bunsen burner]

In lieu of continuing down to your level, I'll just stick you on ignore rather than waste time reading the crud you type in some delusion you're in some way correct at all times. Have a nice ego-trip there bunny boy.

I'd be happy for you to do that. Never noticed I don't intiate conversation with you or bother going to EFH (after numerous requests)? Bout time you showed the same respect. Bye.

 

[Crimson King]

I suggest you go back and watch Corey 5-6 years ago.

What exactly is Corey's skill, vision and ability?

He is another Chad Fletcher.

Talk about overrating a player.

Priddis is no A-grader, yes, but he could be a B grader at his best. Have you seen Kerr hurt an opposition this season? So by your logic Kerr is another C-grader. What Mr.Q said rings true, midfields work in partnerships, there is no standout player as Judd is finding out.

 

[bunsen burner]

Oh yeh?

It was a half hearted joke, but no need to tuff it up like a 12yo.

Go on then bb, tell us how do you see him at his best? Give him a comparison to a player.

He's not even close to Corey right now. Possible in future but I'd be very very surprised.

I am thinking you didnt see Corey when he was around 23.

Sure did. Didn't get as much of the ball (not even close), or near as many clearances. But his footy smarts were better. And he was quicker.

 

[Crimson King]

How old are you bb? Seriously.

As for the second point, that's exactly right. We dont know what the future holds for Priddis.

The third point, quick or not, it doesnt matter, Priddis with a solid midfield around him will do damage as we found out last season. If Gary Ablett and Bartel leave, Corey will do sweet **** all. He will never be any AFL team's no.1 midfielder. Fair to say people got carried away last season so yes I can see your point.

 

[bunsen burner]

How old are you bb? Seriously.

Old enough to do your Mum.

 

[Eagle87]

I suggest you go back and watch Corey 5-6 years ago.

What exactly is Corey's skill, vision and ability?

He is another Chad Fletcher.

Talk about overrating a player.

Priddis is no A-grader, yes, but he could be a B grader at his best. Have you seen Kerr hurt an opposition this season? So by your logic Kerr is another C-grader. What Mr.Q said rings true, midfields work in partnerships, there is no standout player as Judd is finding out.

Good God, one wonders where to start???

If you cant see the difference in ability between Corey and Priddis you are seriously troubled. As for your Fletcher comparison, well, Fletch was an AA and even on an apparently terrible decline, he still gets it more than Priddis and he tries to create things.

You were the one who suggested Priddis could be a Joel Corey and now you say Corey isnt much good but Priddis could get to that level one day????

You seriously cant see that Joel Corey has superior football skill and IQ when compared to a Priddis - even at 23?

Kerr hurts teams plenty of times and while he has had a sub-par year, Kerr is light years ahead of most AFL players for his ability to create something from nothing, to break a line or to create something - you seriously cant see that?

Of course midfields work in partnerships - this is news to you? FFS.
Of course you still need talent and if key parts of the midfield are weak and only one part of the partnership can hurt you then the oppositions job is easier. We have a midfield partnership that is insanely weak and does nothing to enhance the performance of its one elite part (Kerr), no blocking, no physicality against his tagger, nothing. So his partners are letting him down with their lack of ablity or their lack of assistance to him.

I mean the notion that you just put 4 or 5 guys together and leave them to develop a partnership over time is nice and all but its bollocks. First you have to identify ability and then build around that. Ideally they play complimentary roles. But if Kerrs role is the hard at the contest ball winner who can also break a line, what exactly is Priddis' role?

You honestly believe that (a) Priddis will just get better with more games? (as if its a given) and (b) you can see a younger Joel Corey and (c) you reckon he should be a key around which we develop our next midfield partnership?

This is like arguing with a rock.

 

[sydney eagle]

Just continue to dream and demonstrate your complete inability to assess footballers at the same time!

I can tell you now that Priddis' future is absolutely not in the same ball park as your optimism suggests.

Hey if Shane Woewodin can win a Brownlow then anyone can !

 

[Scotland]

I don't know where all these comparisons have come from.

Corey and Fletcher aren't similar players.

Fletcher and Priddis aren't similar players.

Corey and Priddis are similar players, but Corey is better, and more versatile.

The only similarities between Fletcher and Priddis are they both came from Subiaco and at their best rack up a ton of possessions. Fletcher's best is based around a running game. Priddis' best is based around tight close-in work.

 

[Isandula]

What a bickering thread. For what its worth you cant deny he's a real trier, doesnt take a step backwards and gets the best out of himself. Showed some good signs last year, but has struggled this year with some quality midfielders (who you all should know are by now) missing. Will adjust and get better but by how much? Needs to be more efficient with his disposal, as in hurt the opposition more and stop those hideous throw the boot to the ball, its annoying as is the bombing it into the forward (hes not along) without actually setting up for the forwards.

That said, he will improve with more experience but probably not a great deal. His work ethics are his strongest points (and will always be) but he'll never be a real star of the game but a good B-grade midfielder.