Priddis

[September_Glory]

Love him as a player. Always committed and willing to do the dirty work under the packs but he has no 'hurt factor'.

His development and work ethic has been A++ but for a brownlow he would have to add something to his game.

 

[Juddtastic]

Love him as a player. Always committed and willing to do the dirty work under the packs but he has no 'hurt factor'.

His development and work ethic has been A++ but for a brownlow he would have to add something to his game.

I would have thought that was the case but since that mammoth 45 disposal game opposition teams have been playing him very tightly

 

[bunsen burner]

A grade mid. Yes, but not a superstar . Win a Brownlow, why not ? He has many of the attributes to win a Brownlow (clean, fair, hardworking) and he already has a Sandover to his credit, so who is to say that a Brownlow is beyond his capabilities !

1. He's not an A-grade mid. Ever.
2. He's not capable of being the best player in the comp in a given year. Woewoeden took the umps by surprise. They can see Priddis coming.

 

[Eagle87]

I would have thought that was the case but since that mammoth 45 disposal game opposition teams have been playing him very tightly

There is a fair bit of your basic mindless shit in this thread and then there is just complete and utter bollocks from the clueless. This post would be that.

Priddis was played no more tightly in the last 2 games than in any other games this year.

Chances are that having his 45 possession game ripped to shreds by media from all over the country may have dented his confidence. Rightly so, he is a goodish ordinary player and thats all...well apart from being a good bloke and an excellent clubman.

He has limited pace, zero hurt factor and is yet to see his first creative handball or kick, he can get it and is hard at it, which is admirable but he isnt close to an A grader.

 

[Crimson King]

If he had a fully fit Judd + Cousins next to him, Judd and Cousins would probably win the brownlow back to back! As he would be feeding them off silly!

 

[Juddtastic]

There is a fair bit of your basic mindless shit in this thread and then there is just complete and utter bollocks from the clueless. This post would be that.

Priddis was played no more tightly in the last 2 games than in any other games this year.

Chances are that having his 45 possession game ripped to shreds by media from all over the country may have dented his confidence. Rightly so, he is a goodish ordinary player and thats all...well apart from being a good bloke and an excellent clubman.

He has limited pace, zero hurt factor and is yet to see his first creative handball or kick, he can get it and is hard at it, which is admirable but he isnt close to an A grader.

since that game he's had a combined 33 touches

from a player that averaged the most disposals per minute in the afl last year you'd think that if he was left to his own devices he'd most likely double that possesion count

 

[Thewlis Dish]

The only way he can win a brownlow is the way Jimmy Bartel won it. A high class B grader who can break tags and kick goals while racking it up. So far Priddis has shown he can rack it up, but where are the goals?

Bartel is a clear A grade onballer. Skills are just underrated because he's so good in close too and plays next to Ablett.

 

[Kerrby04]

The only way he can win a brownlow is the way Jimmy Bartel won it. A high class B grader who can break tags and kick goals while racking it up. So far Priddis has shown he can rack it up, but where are the goals?

bartel b grade?

priddis = bartel without the goals?

disagree CK

 

[Kerrby04]

He has limited pace, zero hurt factor and is yet to see his first creative handball or kick, he can get it and is hard at it, which is admirable but he isnt close to an A grader.

+1

priddis is overrated

get his disposal efficiency up and better decision making, hell be a handy mid

 

[Kempie]

from a player that averaged the most disposals per minute in the afl last year you'd think that if he was left to his own devices he'd most likely double that possesion count

I think this is Eagle87's entire point really - he is left to his own devices because he's all over the place with his disposals.

Which is to say, it doesn't matter whether he gets posessions or not, what happens immediately afterwards is 50-50, so he's a zero-sum sort of player.

It's harsh, but that's why Eagle87 keeps saying 'he's a good bloke, great clubman, but ..."

 

[Juddtastic]

i havent watched many eagles games this year & i'm not saying that everygame he has had an opponent on his hammer

I am saying though there has been a few matches this year e.g essendon & brisbane where Priddis has had an opposition player play a much tighter role on him than they have in the past

 

[Eagle87]

I think this is Eagle87's entire point really - he is left to his own devices because he's all over the place with his disposals.

Which is to say, it doesn't matter whether he gets posessions or not, what happens immediately afterwards is 50-50, so he's a zero-sum sort of player.

It's harsh, but that's why Eagle87 keeps saying 'he's a good bloke, great clubman, but ..."

Its not just the 50-50 nature of his disposals but for me its more the lack of any creativity.

If you look at a bloke like Scott West as a slowish inside mid, he uses handball to create. He can see where a teammate should run to space and leads him there with creative handball. In tight, its the ability to either (a)break a line or (b) use disposal to create time and space for a teammate that is of real value.

When commentating in the finals last year, Leigh Matthews responded to a comment that the Eagles replacement mids were "doing well", his response was "yeah, but they dont hurt you.... they get the ball but they dont really pose any threat" - that sums up the Eagles current problems and Priddis is one of the key issues here. Basically, other teams look at us and determine we cant hurt them with the ball and this changes their outlook to all out attack. They dont have to defend in the middle because they cant see us hurting them, so they attack and we defend and as a result we are reactive, on the back foot, defensive in our approach. Eventually they get on top of us for 15 or 20 minutes, kick 6 quick goals and its game over. We all then know (as do our opponents) that there isnt enough threat to catch that back up.

Priddis can kick and handball at an average level but he doesnt create anything. He is a hardworking, somewhat visionless plodding mid who isnt that good.

As I have asked before, AT THEIR PEAK, which of this premiership midfield would Priddis unseat from the side?

Judd, Cousins, Kerr, Fletcher, Braun, Embley, Selwood, Butler & Stenglein.

He wouldnt be in the best 8 or 9 mids in a premiership side, which is fine but it means he is a fair way from A grade and probably a fair way from B grade also.

I dont mind the bloke, I just think his weight of possession and his effort have caused people to see things that arent there. He was overlooked by AFL teams for 3 or 4 drafts for a reason. Its because he just isnt that good.

 

[Mr Q]

He's played all of 38 games so far, and is suddenly playing as the #1 midfielder in the team. Of course he's going to struggle a bit with that. Kerr can take quite a bit of blame for that, what with being unavailable yet again.

 

[Eagle87]

He's played all of 38 games so far, and is suddenly playing as the #1 midfielder in the team. Of course he's going to struggle a bit with that. Kerr can take quite a bit of blame for that, what with being unavailable yet again.

And?

Is it your suggestion that at 23 years of age, he will develop vision, creativity/pace at some point over the next few years?

There are 25 players on our list that are younger than Priddis and that number will grow this year. He stands some chance of being in our 10-12 oldest players when next season starts, in footy terms he isnt a kid and while he may polish up somewhat, he is what he is.

My point remains he is a plodder and will remain a plodder and having him move out of the starting mids will be a step on the way to our improvement as a team. He is at best a role player in a group of rotating mids and one hopes that recent events have started to open the eyes of the Eagles fans on here who rate the bloke several levels above what he will ever be.

 

[imright]

He's played all of 38 games so far, and is suddenly playing as the #1 midfielder in the team. Of course he's going to struggle a bit with that. Kerr can take quite a bit of blame for that, what with being unavailable yet again.

I feel sorry for Priddis, he's only played 2 1/2 seasons and now without Judd, Kerr and Cousins people expect him to take the no.1 tag and carry the midfield on his back.

The real blame should go on the decorated midfielders like Fletcher, Embley and Braun who have gone MIA.

 

[Mr Q]

And?

Is it your suggestion that at 23 years of age, he will develop vision, creativity/pace at some point over the next few years?

He ha a fair chance of developing experience and a better understanding of the game at this level over more games - like any inexperienced player.

There are 25 players on our list that are younger than Priddis and that number will grow this year. He stands some chance of being in our 10-12 oldest players when next season starts, in footy terms he isnt a kid and while he may polish up somewhat, he is what he is.

Being in our 10-12 oldest players at the Eagles is hardly a curse given the average age of the squad (and if so many players older than Priddis leave that he reaches that - seven - we'll need nannies for all the kids).

To put it in perspective, the player two below Priddis on the age stakes is Beau Wilkes (who is still young enough this year to be a rookie) - you reckon he can't improve with experience because of his age?

That bit of polish is what makes a good player a great player. Priddis is a good player right now.

My point remains he is a plodder and will remain a plodder and having him move out of the starting mids will be a step on the way to our improvement as a team. He is at best a role player in a group of rotating mids and one hopes that recent events have started to open the eyes of the Eagles fans on here who rate the bloke several levels above what he will ever be.

Your point remains, with all due respect, a steaming pile of bollocks. He's realistically a second year player, with all the inexperience that means. Sure, he's no Judd or Cousins (and I don't think anyone expects him to be), and at 23 won't have any further physical development, but there's a hell of a lot for him to still learn about the game.

The fact is that he can find the ball - his possession count tells you that - and that will keep him in the midfield for as long as he can keep doing it.

 

[Eagle87]

The fact is that he can find the ball - his possession count tells you that - and that will keep him in the midfield for as long as he can keep doing it.

Chad Fletcher is Top 12 for average possessions in the AFL and is the leading Eagle.

That will keep him in the midfield too?

Honestly, Priddis is ordinary and I wish someone on here could present a compelling reason as to why he is rated so highly by so many.

You state as fact that he is a good footballer and he will get better. On what basis?

Experience doesnt automatically make you better, sometimes greater exposure to the rest of the comp simply highlights flaws and other teams exploit them. Once that occurs, careers are cut short.

Priddis has worked harder than most to get where he is, I doubt he has the physical gifts OR the football nous to get much further based on observing a number of plodding mids over many years.

I hope I am wrong.

 

[Scotland]

improvement as a team. He is at best a role player in a group of rotating mids and one hopes that recent events have started to open the eyes of the Eagles fans on here who rate the bloke several levels above what he will ever be.

No.

At best he is a 25-30 touch a game clearance winning midfielder.

The fact that he finds the ball in a midfield which is shit and inexperienced is a credit to him. Does he hurt the opposition with his disposal? No. Does he have the vision and creativity of a Williams or West? No. Did he look a better player with Judd & Cousins around him? Of course.

Does he have much support in winning the ball? No. Does he have classy ball carriers around him? No. The only experience he has around him is Fletcher and Stenglein. One butchers the ball and the other has looked like a rabbit in headlights all year. It's hardly surprising he hasn't developed much of an understanding with Butler, Ebert, Masten, Houlihan etc. either as they are kids and he's played about a 10 or less games with each.

As our other mids improve and get older, Priddis' work in the centre is only going to become more valuable. I'd back a midfield rotation which has played 40-50 games together over one that has played half a dozen. If Masten, Ebert & Butler for example become prolific ball winners and have classier skills then Priddis will obviously be relegated to a bit part player. If they become outside players or heaven forbid duds then I'm glad we have at least one guy on the list who can actually find the ball.

 

[Eagle87]

No.

At best he is a 25-30 touch a game clearance winning midfielder.

The fact that he finds the ball in a midfield which is shit and inexperienced is a credit to him. Does he hurt the opposition with his disposal? No. Does he have the vision and creativity of a Williams or West? No. Did he look a better player with Judd & Cousins around him? Of course.

Does he have much support in winning the ball? No. Does he have classy ball carriers around him? No. The only experience he has around him is Fletcher and Stenglein. One butchers the ball and the other has looked like a rabbit in headlights all year. It's hardly surprising he hasn't developed much of an understanding with Butler, Ebert, Masten, Houlihan etc. either as they are kids and he's played about a 10 or less games with each.

As our other mids improve and get older, Priddis' work in the centre is only going to become more valuable. I'd back a midfield rotation which has played 40-50 games together over one that has played half a dozen. If Masten, Ebert & Butler for example become prolific ball winners and have classier skills then Priddis will obviously be relegated to a bit part player. If they become outside players or heaven forbid duds then I'm glad we have at least one guy on the list who can actually find the ball.

No, we have at least 2, Fletcher gets it more than Priddis. In addition Priddis as our second largest possession winner and our 4th best at inside 50's is 17th in goal assists. Thats ordinary.

Fletcher does butcher the ball, but he also tries to create at times, Priddis butchers the ball and he isnt creative.

Judd & Cousins have barely played with Priddis but suffice to say they were hardly receivers only. In order to win AFL garnd finals one needs quality mids, EVERY shit side has players like Priddis - guys that club supporters overrate due to their effort. The top sides have A grade players.

If you reckon that Priddis is a quality ball winner just waiting for the quality finishers to join him then, with respect, I reckon you are misguided.

He is a C Grade midfielder in a C Grade side and we need to get developing A graders in there to avoid a prolonged period of mediocrity.

That said, since you are a good judge of these things please refer to my earlier post and advise which of those players AT THEIR BEST, Priddis would displace from the side?

I look forward to your enlightening views...

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Priddis hasn't been the same since his knee injury earlier in the year.

He was alot more damaging last year as he averaged nearly a goal a game from the midfield.
He also spent more time going foward of the play, and hanging around the outer edge of centre square, collecting possesions.

 

[hbulldogs]

Priddis racks upp the disposals but doesnt make use with it. Puts his teammates under to much pressure. I dont see him rating highley unless he cuts that out of his game.

 

[Scotland]

That said, since you are a good judge of these things please refer to my earlier post and advise which of those players AT THEIR BEST, Priddis would displace from the side?

Judd, Cousins, Kerr, Fletcher, Braun, Embley, Selwood, Butler & Stenglein

Where did I say he would displace any?

It's 2008. Two of those 8 are gone. None are 'at their best'. If you've got a better option to take the field in Rd 17 in place of Priddis I'm all ears.

Regardless of that, Braun and Embley are wingmen. Priddis is not. Stenglein & Selwood are used as taggers. Priddis is not. The other 5 are on-ballers. Very few in the AFL would displace any of the first three. Fletcher was once upon a time an AA player, and I rate Butler very highly. 'At the best', they are both (or in Butler's case will be) both than Priddis.

You've got me pinned as a fanboy. I'm not. Priddis is a good footballer, but I accept that he is a limited footballer. He's a traditional in and under midfielder - nothing more. If we lost Embley and Braun I'd be hoping Priddis wasn't thrown onto the wing. Given we lost Judd (& Cousins whose close-in work wasn't quite as good) and Kerr is perennially suspended I'm glad we have Priddis.

 

[sydney eagle]

Chad Fletcher is Top 12 for average possessions in the AFL and is the leading Eagle.

That will keep him in the midfield too?

Honestly, Priddis is ordinary and I wish someone on here could present a compelling reason as to why he is rated so highly by so many.

You state as fact that he is a good footballer and he will get better. On what basis?

Experience doesnt automatically make you better, sometimes greater exposure to the rest of the comp simply highlights flaws and other teams exploit them. Once that occurs, careers are cut short.

Priddis has worked harder than most to get where he is, I doubt he has the physical gifts OR the football nous to get much further based on observing a number of plodding mids over many years.

I hope I am wrong.

I doubt that there IS an argument that would "compel" you to rate Priddis any more highly than you do! You have obviously made up your mind where he is concerned and no amount of argument will change it. So be it. I (and others) disagree with your assessment, but I can't see the point in arguing with you over it.

 

[flyinghi64]

Geez not much expected out of Priddis atm.
Sounds like a lot of people expect him to get all the clearances, inside 50's , contested posessions, 100% effeciency with disposals and higher goal scorer. Do we want him as our no1 tagger as well
Last year he was a better player because he had better players playing well around him. He is a contested, in and under clearance player. He get's it and gives it to the finishers, similar to Rojo but more in and under. With Masten bigger and better next year, Kerr with less baggage and pressure, Rich in the midfield, and even Ebert, Priddis can play his proper game and get the ball to these guys to set up the play and put the bullet passes to the forwards.

Relax Priddis is far from the worst thing and player to happen this year, at least he can still find the ball.

 

[wirra44]

He's played all of 38 games so far, and is suddenly playing as the #1 midfielder in the team. Of course he's going to struggle a bit with that.

damn right about priddis i think he has played very well this year.