Universal Love Princes Park - Jan 27th 2021 Update

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Dramoth

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I have no doubt that, if you stump up the $150M to get the stadium up to current standards, the board, the AFL and the fans wouldn't have a problem playing there.
We hold the lease on the PP #2 oval as well.

The club should sit down with the AFL, the ACB and the Melbourne City council and discuss building a new stadium there for VFL/AFLW games with the occasional AFL games there and do A grade cricket matches there in the summer. Make it a 15-25k seater with further room for about 20k standing. Get the government, the AFL, the ACB and the Council to stump up 120 million (30 million each).

Sell the naming rights to the new stadium at 2.5 million a year and stump up the remaining money ourselves. We get to keep the original PP for our training ground and the AFL and the ACB get a 25-45k boutique stadium so that low selling interstate teams can make a bit more money from packed houses... instead of going to somewhere like Docklands where 20k people might show up and they made sod all!
 

DangerousD

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We hold the lease on the PP #2 oval as well.

The club should sit down with the AFL, the ACB and the Melbourne City council and discuss building a new stadium there for VFL/AFLW games with the occasional AFL games there and do A grade cricket matches there in the summer. Make it a 15-25k seater with further room for about 20k standing. Get the government, the AFL, the ACB and the Council to stump up 120 million (30 million each).

Sell the naming rights to the new stadium at 2.5 million a year and stump up the remaining money ourselves. We get to keep the original PP for our training ground and the AFL and the ACB get a 25-45k boutique stadium so that low selling interstate teams can make a bit more money from packed houses... instead of going to somewhere like Docklands where 20k people might show up and they made sod all!
For reference, Geelongs stadium, which is relatively small has already cost $175M, the 5th and final stage has been costed at another $100M, this is for a 40,000 capacity ground.

The newest NRL stadium with a 30,000 capacity which opened 2 years ago, cost $360M.

The club failed in its bit to have a 2nd tier added to the Gardener stand in the 90s and had to drastically scale back the design of the Legends stand to get the project past the council, there is no way we could get a new stadium next door even if we found the money.

The AFL don’t seem to need a new stadium, I would love to see in the future, the Elliott stand knocked down and a new stand constructed to cater for AFLW expansion, but who knows maybe we could see a miracle one day and the club wins a big lotto and we could try and get games back there, but it will need a miracle.
 

welshy85

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We hold the lease on the PP #2 oval as well.
Apart from the money issue mentioned above and the fact that it would be too small for us straight away, building stands around oval 2 would mean moving/knocking down a large kids playground, tennis courts, cricket/soccer club rooms and walking paths. The lack of room is another reason this will not happen.
 

FRUMPY

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For reference, Geelongs stadium, which is relatively small has already cost $175M, the 5th and final stage has been costed at another $100M, this is for a 40,000 capacity ground.

The newest NRL stadium with a 30,000 capacity which opened 2 years ago, cost $360M.

The club failed in its bit to have a 2nd tier added to the Gardener stand in the 90s and had to drastically scale back the design of the Legends stand to get the project past the council, there is no way we could get a new stadium next door even if we found the money.

The AFL don’t seem to need a new stadium, I would love to see in the future, the Elliott stand knocked down and a new stand constructed to cater for AFLW expansion, but who knows maybe we could see a miracle one day and the club wins a big lotto and we could try and get games back there, but it will need a miracle.
Add to that weve taken 20+ years to pay off the legends stand.......


 

The_Wookie

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Sell the naming rights to the new stadium at 2.5 million a year and stump up the remaining money ourselves. We get to keep the original PP for our training ground and the AFL and the ACB get a 25-45k boutique stadium so that low selling interstate teams can make a bit more money from packed houses... instead of going to somewhere like Docklands where 20k people might show up and they made sod all!
Leaving the rest aside, you arent getting 2.5m a year in naming rights for a single team stadium. As a guide, heres what other stadiums were being paid a couple of years ago.

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Dramoth

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Leaving the rest aside, you arent getting 2.5m a year in naming rights for a single team stadium. As a guide, heres what other stadiums were being paid a couple of years ago.

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It wouldn’t be a single team stadium. It‘d have our AFLW and VFL teams based there along with any other VFL teams that need a stadium for when they have larger matches and their grounds won’t support them. The ACB could also use the ground as a boutique stadium to play twenty20 games at in the summer. Grade A cricket teams could use it for big games as well.

However, I just put it out there as a possible option as an alternative to completely rebuilding Princes Park (isn’t going to happen because of the heritage stands there).
 

katmanblue

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Apart from the money issue mentioned above and the fact that it would be too small for us straight away, building stands around oval 2 would mean moving/knocking down a large kids playground, tennis courts, cricket/soccer club rooms and walking paths. The lack of room is another reason this will not happen.
I'll allow it.
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