- Oct 3, 2013
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Yes, because with so much exposure and money pouring in, they can pretty much do what they want. Not to mention that these sports are slower moving, on a smaller field, with less players than AFL, so it's much easier to tell them apart. And they're all quite happy to wear alternate kits in strange colours tooIs this guy serious? So a billion people can tell the difference between two NBA teams with the same colours, but 25 ~ million people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between two teams with the same colours?
To an outsider, these:LMFAO. How so? Branding? Image?
So what's your brand and image? Besides colours, the jumper. It is what identifies you on the field. Here we have two different jumpers, with some similarities, and the same colours, unable to be used because some Victorians are too stupid to tell the difference, but apparently they can tell the difference just fine between the same designs.
are much easier to distinguish between than these:
We're not stupid. We just think much more logically than some South Australians stuck in fairly land with their idea that two teams can wear the same colours and a similar design, and all will be well and good
Also, you've said that the jumper is what identifies you on the field and in the public eye, and then admit it's similar to Collingwood's. If you want to build a clear brand, wear this:
Or better still:
Yes, because there was no such thing as printed jumpers in 1897. Or graphic design. The possibilities are endless today, in 1897 the various designs and colours that could be used were quite limited. The teams had limited resources available. If I recall correctly from information I've previously read, colours had to be shipped in from England. Far cry from today when materials and resources are readily availableWow. So it was a lot harder for 8 teams to come up with different designs and colour combinations, but it's easier now for 18 teams to come up with different designs and colour combinations.
You're missing the point. It is the same competition. I couldn't give a stuff about how many flags interstate teams have won since 1990. What needs to be acknowledged is that the AFL was (and still is) most certainly an expanded VFL. The presence of the original VFL is much less significant now than it was, but the origins of the VFL/AFL need to be acknowledgedYou only want it to be the same competition, because without including VFL flags, Victorian clubs would be pretty average with the exception of Hawthorn and Geelong. They'd be marginally better then Fremantle with zero success.
I'm fairly certain that I'm the one explaining how the AFL is still technically an expanded VFL, so you're the one crying about how it's all about Victorians.Says the Victorian who just got done telling us how the AFL is just an expanded VFL.
You brought unrelated issues into the argument, you can't back out now. Can't believe you think I'm taking the argument off track, when you were the one who mentioned umpiring in the first place. Umpiring has nothing to do with the argument and really you used it to make your ideas seem sophisticated and thought out.It's only a debate about bias umpiring if you decide to take it out of context of the overall comment and make it into a separate debate.
Of course when you are running out of arguments and the ones you do rely on are so flimsy and weak, I too would be looking to change the course of the debate like you are right now.
In this context, I feel I do. The argument really is just a section of Port Adelaide supporters kicking up a stink and failing to realise that there are 17 other supporter bases that are allowed to have an opinion (which has been evident in this thread), and kicking up another stink with them when they don't agree with 'what Port Adelaide thinks'. We're allowed to think differently to Port AdelaideYou now represent the 17 other teams? Is there anything these Victorians think they aren't entitled to?
Why should the Victorian team compromise? The VFL expanded into the AFL, and invited teams from around the country to join. You guys joined with a different name and jumper to the SANFL version of the team, and now twenty years later kick up a stink that the pre-existing team should change so Port Adelaide can get there way. If you want to control a competition and have your say, go back to the SANFL champA Victorian says its reasonable for Port Adelaide to compromise it's history and heritage, but perish the thought the Victorian would suggest a Victorian team should compromise. After all, the Victorian says the AFL is just an expanded VFL competition.
But Collingwood don't want to change their jumper, which is fair enough. They're happy with the jumper they have. Port Adelaide are the ones creating the issue, it is their responsibility to solve it. You can't decide that you want to wear a jumper that will cause problems, and then try and make another team fix it for youFor the same reason Port Adelaide should add teal to their wharf pylon jumper.