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drugs rife in domestic non SERCO public prisons here
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i think i was listening to a uncle Phillip Adams Latenight podcast from the back catalogue, and de tocquville was raised. I have not read him, i only know the cliff notes, i think he pre-dated Dickens by half a century. But he forecast something like this i think. s**t, gotta get it out from the library now.
I think it may have been BHL or bernie henry levi, an insufferable dilettante philosopher, in the visage of Burnside/GeoffRobertson. Think it was around the 2007ish French elections, or when the protests from the banlieus blew up in paris two years before that and sarkozt was going off his nut
how the heck do you spell de tocquville anyway
here, not after we have those sydney road brunswick protests about the abc radio woman getting raped and murdered by the dickhead on parole
medusala again:
http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/05/j...lling-kids-prison-system101.html#.Up0KrdIW2Sp
awaits for the ubiquitous response, not the systems, its the corrupt individuals. yeah, i recognise that. but you recognise they were enabled too. it would be a false dichotomy to come down on either side. wait, if you use the interwebz way back machine, can you ask dickens and de tocquville for their solution? SERCO all round?
There's also the other side which people don't notice right away.
Once the private sector started expanding in NSW, entitlements for correctional staff dropped.
This lead to an exodus of senior staff that refused to work in dangerous prison environments for as little as $19 an hour (as a flat rate I might add)
This also lead to a drop in recruitment standards because they found it hard to recruit sufficient numbers. There's currently a push in NSW to allow as many correctional officers positions as possible to be replaced by licensed security guards.
Once the private sector started expanding in NSW, entitlements for correctional staff dropped.
This lead to an exodus of senior staff that refused to work in dangerous prison environments for as little as $19 an hour (as a flat rate I might add)
This also lead to a drop in recruitment standards because they found it hard to recruit sufficient numbers. There's currently a push in NSW to allow as many correctional officers positions as possible to be replaced by licensed security guards.
bloods, they should outsource the jobs to bangalore. call centre jeremy benthem panopticon 4tW.
need to add dickens and de tocquville to get my references up
need to add dickens and de tocquville to get my references up
I can't fathom how anyone would want private prisons, and I have been employed by and support the use of PMC's.
So far the only answer seems to be oh but cheaper to employ and sack a private sector worker for not performing.
Yet the public prisons continually out perform the private prisons
Who would have thought those with job security and good pay would out perform those that are paid * all and have no job security?
So far the only answer seems to be oh but cheaper to employ and sack a private sector worker for not performing.
Yet the public prisons continually out perform the private prisons
Who would have thought those with job security and good pay would out perform those that are paid * all and have no job security?
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Privately owned prisons should be kept specifically for the owners of privately owned prisons, their board and office holders.
Capital punishment should be returned there too.
Capital punishment should be returned there too.
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Better still, offenders should be sentenced to "Call Centres"
If you think private prisons are bad see corruption in California with public prisons and unions.
Oh and of course, good old Carl just tripped and fell. Poor bugger.
Oh and of course, good old Carl just tripped and fell. Poor bugger.
who, Bob Car(r), or the Datsun120B masquerading as foreign minister?
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Holy s**t BF dejavu.......
hey, stop being the premature ejaculation on my punchlines
A key reason prisons need to remain public, in a public prison the worst case scenario would be the entire prison system is corrupt and actively covering it up to prevent mates being sacked and sent to jail.
In a private prison the worst case scenario is the entire prison system is corrupt and actively covering it up to prevent mates being sacked and sent to jail and protect profits.
A private prison doesn't reduce corruption it adds another layer.
One of the reasons public prisons are safer is because there's a push to report things that go wrong so we can learn from it and improve things from there.
The private system things go unreported because it becomes a business they don't want hear things that will damage profits, anybody who's worked in business understands this (how many of us have sat in a meeting and had to argue and hound for months to get things approved?) it's the cost of doing business. You have to prove there's a benefit to the company, usually not in the long run but a clear CBA.
Add to that environment the threat from the politicians to seize back prisons that are either too unsafe or not holding enough prisoner's.
And you only have extra push factors to cover things up now it's not just about profits but actually jepodising the business and risk shutting it down.
Sydney Bloods your premise is that profits are the driver of the corruption, and obfuscation of the operations. what is the driver of the corruption, and ensuing obfuscation and cover-up in public operations?
what your have done, is conflate the end product with the cause. profit is not the cause in neither. It is incompetence. In both scenarios, we have cover-ups to hide their back. One will have an added effect of maintaining revenue flow, and if business competent, a profit.
But the profit is not the instigator of the misoperation and incompetence. it exists in both scenarios.
what your have done, is conflate the end product with the cause. profit is not the cause in neither. It is incompetence. In both scenarios, we have cover-ups to hide their back. One will have an added effect of maintaining revenue flow, and if business competent, a profit.
But the profit is not the instigator of the misoperation and incompetence. it exists in both scenarios.
Not the driver more of a push factor, corruption is the systemic cover up of misoperation and incompetence.
When profits are on the line cover up's are simply more likely to occur.
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Add one offender and a live cougar and you have a "life lesson" you say?
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Crikey... I am not quite sure how to respond.
But there is no evidence the private prison system in the US has led to increased efficiency and decreased costs. However it has seen the rise of the second greatest prison population in recorded existence, encouraged both widespread corruption of the judicial system and law enforcement, facilitated a new provider of slave labor, as well as presenting an ongoing human rights catastrophe.
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lol, long bow there
so in short, all of the US problems could be solved if they return prison operations and ownership to the government? or they simply wouldn't have had these issues if not for the privatisation? or both? or neither?
so in short, all of the US problems could be solved if they return prison operations and ownership to the government? or they simply wouldn't have had these issues if not for the privatisation? or both? or neither?
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