Pro Active Drafting

[Demon Revival]

Ok, rather than us waste all that money on Cloke, how about we become pro active & scour the 2010 & 2011 for players who have been in the system for a couple of years & their current club won't be able to meet our offers. I am especially concentrating on Gold Coast & GWS players as the targets. Here is a list of both years, there are some high picks who I reckon could be good pick ups, what do you think???

2010 Draft

1 1 David Swallow East Fremantle WAFL Gold Coast 1 2 Harley Bennell Peel Thunder WAFL Gold Coast 1 3 Sam Day Sturt SANFL Gold Coast 1 4 Andrew Gaff Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup West Coast 1 5 Jared Polec Woodville-West Torrens SANFL Brisbane Lions 1 6 Reece Conca Perth WAFL Richmond 1 7 Josh Caddy Northern Knights TAC Cup Gold Coast 1 8 Dyson Heppell Gippsland Power TAC Cup Essendon 1 9 Dion Prestia Calder Cannons TAC Cup Gold Coast 1 10 Daniel Gorringe Norwood SANFL Gold Coast 1 11 Thomas Lynch Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Gold Coast 1 12 Lucas Cook North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Melbourne 1 13 Seb Tape Glenelg SANFL Gold Coast 1 14 Brodie Smith Woodville-West Torrens SANFL Adelaide 1 15 Billie Smedts Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Geelong 1 16 Ben Jacobs Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Port Adelaide 1 17 Shaun Atley Murray Bushrangers TAC Cup North Melbourne 1 18 Matthew Watson Calder Cannons TAC Cup Carlton 1 19 Isaac Smith North Ballarat VFL Hawthorn 1 20 Jayden Pitt Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Fremantle 1 21 Jed Lamb Gippsland Power TAC Cup Sydney 1 22 Mitch Wallis (F/S) Calder Cannons TAC Cup Western Bulldogs 1 23 Cameron Guthrie Calder Cannons TAC Cup Geelong 1 24 Jamie Cripps East Fremantle WAFL St Kilda 1 25 Patrick Karnezis Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Brisbane Lions Priority 26 Jack Darling West Perth WAFL West Coast Compensation 27 Kieran Harper Eastern Ranges TAC Cup North Melbourne 2 28 Ryan Lester Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Brisbane Lions 2 29 Scott Lycett Port Magpies SANFL West Coast 2 30 Jake Batchelor Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Richmond 2 31 Ariel Steinberg Bendigo Pioneers TAC Cup Essendon 2 32 Josh Green Clarence TFL Brisbane Lions 2 33 Jeremy Howe Hobart Football Club TFL Melbourne 2 34 Patrick McCarthy Glenelg SANFL Carlton 2 35 Ben Newton South Fremantle WAFL Port Adelaide 2 36 Aaron Young Eastern Ranges TAC Cup Port Adelaide 2 37 George Horlin-Smith Sturt SANFL Geelong 2 38 Mitchell Hallahan Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Hawthorn 2 39 Jeremy Taylor Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Gold Coast 2 40 Luke Parker Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Sydney 2 41 Tom Liberatore (F/S) Calder Cannons TAC Cup Western Bulldogs 2 42 Luke Mitchell Calder Cannons TAC Cup Carlton 2 43 Sam Crocker Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup St Kilda 2 44 Viv Michie Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Fremantle 3 45 Alex Fasolo East Fremantle WAFL Collingwood 3 46 Daniel Farmer Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Collingwood 3 47 Bradley Helbig West Adelaide SANFL Richmond 3 48 Alex Browne Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Essendon 3 49 Jacob Gillbee Lauderdale TFL Gold Coast 3 50 Troy Davis Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Melbourne 3 51 Dean MacDonald Gippsland Power TAC Cup Richmond 3 52 Cameron O'Shea Eastern Ranges TAC Cup Port Adelaide 3 53 Tom McDonald North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Melbourne 3 54 Jordan Schroder Calder Cannons TAC Cup Geelong 3 55 Angus Litherland Claremont WAFL Hawthorn 3 56 Josh Mellington Murray Bushrangers TAC Cup Fremantle 3 57 Alex Johnson Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Sydney 3 58 James Podsiadly (Promoted rookie) Geelong 3 59 Tom Ledger Claremont WAFL St Kilda 3 60 Kirk Ugle Swan Districts WAFL Collingwood 4 61 Jarryd Lyons Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Adelaide 4 62 Jacob Brennan (F/S) East Fremantle WAFL West Coast 4 63 Tom Derickx Claremont WAFL Richmond 4 64 Luke Davis West Adelaide SANFL Essendon 4 65 Claye Beams (Promoted rookie) Brisbane Lions 4 66 Paul Puopolo Norwood SANFL Hawthorn 4 67 Andrew McInnes Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Carlton 4 68 Cameron Hitchcock (Promoted rookie) Port Adelaide 4 69 Cameron Delaney Geelong Falcons TAC Cup North Melbourne 4 70 Nicholas Duigan Norwood SANFL Carlton 4 71 Ben Mabon North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup North Melbourne 4 72 Pass Fremantle 4 73 Matthew Spangher West Coast AFL Sydney 4 74 Jayden Schofield East Fremantle WAFL Western Bulldogs 4 75 Arryn Siposs Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup St Kilda 4 76 Paul Seedsman Eastern Ranges TAC Cup Collingwood 5 77 Trent Stubbs East Coast Sydney AFL Collingwood 5 78 Lewis Stevenson (Promoted rookie) West Coast 5 79 Pass Richmond 5 80 Michael Ross Gippsland Power TAC Cup Essendon 5 81 Jordie McKenzie (Promoted rookie) Melbourne 5 82 Ricky Henderson (Promoted rookie) Adelaide 5 83 Danny Meyer (Promoted rookie) Port Adelaide 5 84 Callum Wilson (Promoted rookie) West Coast 5 85 Jeff Garlett (Promoted rookie) Carlton 5 86 Pass Hawthorn 5 87 Michael Barlow (Promoted rookie) Fremantle 5 88 Zephaniah Skinner Nightcliff Tigers NTFL Western Bulldogs 5 89 Tom Hill Northern Knights TAC Cup Western Bulldogs 5 90 Ryan Gamble Geelong AFL St Kilda 5 91 Jarryd Blair (Promoted rookie) Collingwood 6 92 Lachlan Keeffe (Promoted rookie) Collingwood 6 93 Andrew Strijk (Promoted rookie) West Coast 6 94 David Gourdis (Promoted rookie) Richmond 6 95 Pass Essendon 6 96 Jake Spencer (Promoted rookie) Melbourne 6 97 Matthew Jaensch (Promoted rookie) Adelaide 6 98 Ben Speight (Promoted rookie) North Melbourne 6 99 David Ellard (Promoted rookie) Carlton 6 100 Matt de Boer (Promoted rookie) Fremantle 6 101 Mike Pyke (Promoted rookie) Sydney 6 102 Brodie Moles (Promoted rookie) Western Bulldogs 6 103 Dean Polo Richmond AFL St Kilda 6 104 Tom Young NSW AFL scholarship Collingwood 7 105 Pass Gold Coast 7 106 Ben Howlett (Promoted rookie) Essendon 7 107 Luke Thompson (Promoted rookie) Adelaide 7 108 Simon White (Promoted rookie) Carlton 7 109 Alex Silvagni (Promoted rookie) Fremantle 7 110 Andrew Hooper (Promoted rookie) Western Bulldogs 7 111 Tom Simpkin (Promoted rookie) St Kilda 8 112 Jay van Berlo (Promoted rookie) Fremantle

2011 Draft

1 1 Jonathon Patton Eastern Ranges TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 2 Stephen Coniglio Swan Districts WAFL Greater Western Sydney 1 3 Dom Tyson Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 4 Will Hoskin-Elliot Western Jets TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 5 Matt Buntine Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 6 Chad Wingard Sturt SANFL Port Adelaide 1 7 Nick Haynes Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 8 Billy Longer Northern Knights TAC Cup Brisbane Lions 1 9 Adam Tomlinson Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 10 Liam Sumner Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 11 Toby Greene Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 12 Sam Docherty Gippsland Power TAC Cup Brisbane Lions 1 13 Taylor Adams Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 14 Devon Smith Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 1 15 Brandon Ellis Calder Cannons TAC Cup Richmond 1 16 Tom Sheridan Calder Cannons TAC Cup Fremantle 1 17 Clay Smith Gippsland Power TAC Cup Western Bulldogs 1 18 Brad McKenzie Sturt SANFL North Melbourne 1 19 Elliot Kavanagh Western Jets TAC Cup Essendon 1 20 Hayden Crozier Eastern Ranges TAC Cup Fremantle 1 21 (F/S) Tom Mitchell Claremont WAFL Sydney 1 22 Josh Bootsma South Fremantle WAFL Carlton 1 23 Murray Newman Swan Districts WAFL West Coast 1 24 Henry Schade North Hobart Demons TFL Gold Coast 1 25 Sebastian Ross North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup St Kilda 1 26 Todd Elton Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Richmond Priority 27 Sam Kerridge Bendigo Pioneers TAC Cup Adelaide Priority 28 Fraser McInnes Perth WAFL West Coast Priority 29 Alex Forster Norwood SANFL Fremantle Compensation 30 Elliot Yeo East Fremantle WAFL Brisbane Lions 2 31 Jackson Merrett Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Essendon 2 32 Joel Hamling Claremont WAFL Geelong 2 33 Bradley Hill West Perth WAFL Hawthorn 2 34 Shane Kersten South Fremantle WAFL Geelong 2 35 Daniel Markworth Calder Cannons TAC Cup St Kilda 2 36 Rory Taggert North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Melbourne 2 37 Jack Newnes Northern Knights TAC Cup St Kilda 2 38 Jordan Kelly Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup Hawthorn 2 39 Michael Talia Calder Cannons TAC Cup Western Bulldogs 2 40 Tom Curran Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup North Melbourne 2 41 Mitchell Grigg Norwood SANFL Adelaide 2 42 Jimmy Webster Glenorchy TFL St Kilda 2 43 Jordan Lockyer West Perth WAFL Sydney 2 44 Sam Rowe Norwood SANFL Carlton 2 45 Brendon Ah Chee South Fremantle WAFL Port Adelaide 2 46 Nicholas Joyce Woodville-West Torrens SANFL Adelaide 2 47 Patrick Wearden Murray Bushrangers TAC Cup Brisbane Lions 2 48 Jordan Murdoch Glenelg SANFL Geelong 3 49 Daniel Pearce Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Western Bulldogs 3 50 Jackson Paine Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Collingwood 3 51 Nathan Blee East Perth WAFL Port Adelaide 3 52 Josh Tynan Gippsland Power TAC Cup Melbourne 3 53 Alex Woodward Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Hawthorn 3 54 James Sellar Adelaide AFL Melbourne 3 55 Matthew Arnot Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Richmond 3 56 Tom Downie North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Greater Western Sydney 3 57 Tory Dickson Bendigo Bombers VFL Western Bulldogs 3 58 Lachie Neale Glenelg SANFL Fremantle 3 59 Nicholas O'Brien North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Essendon 3 60 Jay Lever Geelong Falcons TAC Cup St Kilda 3 61 Alex Brown Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Sydney 3 62 (F/S) Dylan Buckley Northern Knights TAC Cup Carlton 3 63 Ashton Hams (Rookie promotion) West Coast 3 64 Cameron Ellis-Yolmen Woodville-West Torrens SANFL Adelaide 3 65 Corey Gault Swan Districts WAFL Collingwood 3 66 Lincoln McCarthy Glenelg SANFL Geelong 4 67 Jarrod Witts Sydney Uni (NSW Scholarship) NEAFL Collingwood 4 68 Beau Wilkes Claremont WAFL St Kilda 4 69 Mitchell Golby (Rookie promotion) Brisbane Lions 4 70 Luke Dahlhaus (Rookie promotion) Western Bulldogs 4 71 Cameron Sutcliffe Woodville-West Torrens SANFL Fremantle 4 72 Pass Fremantle 4 73 Matthew Panos (Rookie promotion) Western Bulldogs 4 74 Luke Delaney (Rookie promotion) North Melbourne 4 75 Stewart Crameri (Rookie promotion) Essendon 4 76 Jason Blake St Kilda (redrafted) AFL St Kilda 4 77 Luke Breust (Rookie promotion) Hawthorn 4 78 Orren Stephenson North Ballarat VFL Geelong 5 79 Setanta Ó hAilpín Carlton AFL Greater Western Sydney 5 80 Alik Magin (Rookie promotion) Gold Coast 5 81 Pass Port Adelaide 5 82 Matthew Wright (Rookie promotion) Adelaide 5 83 Nick Lower (Rookie promotion) Fremantle 5 84 Cameron Pedersen (Rookie promotion) North Melbourne 5 85 Nathan Gordon (Rookie promotion) Sydney 5 86 (F/S) Jed Bews Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Geelong 6 87 James McDonald Old Xaverians VAFA Greater Western Sydney 6 88 Alex Sexton Redland (Zone selection) NEAFL Gold Coast 6 89 Aidan Riley (Rookie promotion) Adelaide 7 90 Pass Greater Western Sydney 7 91 Jackson Allen Morningside (Zone selection) NEAFL Gold Coast 8 92 Pass Greater Western Sydney 8 93 Pass Greater Western Sydney 8 94 Pass Greater Western Sydney 8 95 Pass Greater Western Sydney 8 96 Pass Greater Western Sydney

 

[demonfan9]

1) We do have a 'Pro Scout' who focuses purely on AFL and state leagues.
2) Don't just post the entire list of draftees, why don't you make some suggestions instead.
3) What's with the bold text and shit formatting?

 

[Demon Revival]

1) We do have a 'Pro Scout' who focuses purely on AFL and state leagues.
2) Don't just post the entire list of draftees, why don't you make some suggestions instead.
3) What's with the bold text and shit formatting?

Well DF9, my comment was made as a alternative to spending the big bucks on Cloke, I do intend going through the list & adding my thoughts, but this was posted after having a discussion at the game yesterday with 'Spirit'...

As to the bold text & format, I tried to change it but couldn't work out how to, so anyway go & blow it out your arse smart guy, I really don't give a F... what you think...

 

[demonfan9]

Good, I agree with you that we should be focusing on these types of players instead of spending millions in Cloke.

I'd prefer not to blow things out of my arse but thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Marlowe]

I haven't familiarized myself with the contractual situation on about 95% of these players, so, if somebody could put an asterisk on the ones signed, unsigned, etc., I would appreciate it.
I know Swallow and Bennell signed extensions earlier this year (I'm not 100% sure for how long) - apart from those two, there aren't many other players listed here I would rather have than Travis Boak.

 

[Demon Revival]

A couple of players I would target, Sam Day, Josh Caddy, Dion Prestia, Lynch,Hoskin- Elliot, Nick Haynes, Taylor Adams, Toby Greene, Devon Smith, Liam Sumner... A mixture of Big guy, mids ( inside & out) amongst these boys... The big one to chase, but I reckon GWS would not let him go is, Cameron...

 

[RandB]

ok, nobody will be required to blow anything out of their own arses, the bolding has been fixed.

It will be interesting to see if the club tries to work Petterd into some sort of trade with GC for a kid who possibly wants to come back to Victoria. RP comes out of contract which takes leverage away from us but if he does want to go and they co-operate something could happen.

 

[Tulip]

Koby Stevens, 2009 draft.

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Koby Stevens, 2009 draft.

Yeah I like Koby Stevens too.

And for the record, the formatting of the OP is still terrible. No way I'm reading those 'lists'.

 

[Syrus]

Tl;Dr

But I understand your sentiments DR and agree. Would love to poach some young GWS players who would be coming out of contract this year but the fact is most of the young ones come out of contract in 2013.

The only ones this year I think are:
Curtly Hampton
Shaun Edwards
Stephen Clifton
Anthony Miles
Jonathan Giles
Jacob Townsend
Tim Mohr
Mark Whiley
Kurt Aylett
Sam Schulz
Josh Bruce

The rest are all the veterans like Junior, Cornes and Brogan.

As for the Suns, the ones this year are:

Maverick Weller
Alik Magin
Lewis Moss
Hayden Jolly
Matthew Warnock
Piers Flanagan
Josh Toy
Tom Nicolls
Charlie Dixon
Danny Stanley
Josh Caddy
Taylor Hine
Jack Hutchins
Sam Iles
Josh Wilkinson
Nathan Hall

Rookies
Michael Coad
Kyal Horsley
Josh Hall
Andrew McQualter

 

[Demon Revival]

Tl;Dr

But I understand your sentiments DR and agree. Would love to poach some young GWS players who would be coming out of contract this year but the fact is most of the young ones come out of contract in 2013.

The only ones this year I think are:
Curtly Hampton
Shaun Edwards
Stephen Clifton
Anthony Miles
Jonathan Giles
Jacob Townsend
Tim Mohr
Mark Whiley
Kurt Aylett
Sam Schulz
Josh Bruce

The rest are all the veterans like Junior, Cornes and Brogan.

As for the Suns, the ones this year are:

Maverick Weller
Alik Magin
Lewis Moss
Hayden Jolly
Matthew Warnock
Piers Flanagan
Josh Toy
Tom Nicolls
Charlie Dixon
Danny Stanley
Josh Caddy
Taylor Hine
Jack Hutchins
Sam Iles
Josh Wilkinson
Nathan Hall

Rookies
Michael Coad
Kyal Horsley
Josh Hall
Andrew McQualter

Thanks Syrus, I thought they were given 2 years initially, that would mean end of this season? Even so, there are some good players listed by you...

 

[Punchy Demons]

Honestly, who on the above lists would you chase to recruit?

Caddy, Weller & Giles. With the last two extremely unlikely to leave their clubs

Maybe Toy, but that would be based on his junior reputation rather than his AFL exposed form.
The rest are battlers & I think MFC would be better looking elsewhere.

 

[The Dr]

Reckon Shaun McKernan from the Crows could be a good one. Seems to be on the outer with Tippett, Walker preferred as key forwards and Jacobs/Jenkins preferred as ruckmen. Still only 21, 196cm, 99kg. Not a world beater, but would be really handy as a big bodied target up forward (assuming Watts stays back) and relief ruckman for Jamar if needed. From Victoria so might want to come home?

Also Koby Stevens from the Eagles.

 

[KickLongTackleHard]

Similar strategy to the Tigers picking up Houli, Grigg, Maric should be adopted to make immediately impact and not considered "too old". Target teams with good depth putting players on the outer. See Josh Kennedy (Syd). Decision making ability highly regarded.

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Reckon Shaun McKernan from the Crows could be a good one. Seems to be on the outer with Tippett, Walker preferred as key forwards and Jacobs/Jenkins preferred as ruckmen. Still only 21, 196cm, 99kg. Not a world beater, but would be really handy as a big bodied target up forward (assuming Watts stays back) and relief ruckman for Jamar if needed. From Victoria so might want to come home?

Also Koby Stevens from the Eagles.

Good option I reckon The Dr. The club bolstered its tall stocks with Sellar and Clark last year, but I think an extra forward capable of rucking is definitely worth a thought. I don't think Spencer is going to make it, Fitzy I have a lot of hope for but a lot of water to go under the bridge before we know whether or not he'll make it. Ditto Cook.

I don't know much about McKernan, but he's no spud. It also frees us up a bit to go hard at midfielders and crumbing fwds in the draft(s) this year, which I really think we need to.

 

[640MD]

like the discussion, well worth reading hopefully the recruiters

are doing all this them selves,

 

[Tulip]

Reckon Shaun McKernan from the Crows could be a good one. Seems to be on the outer with Tippett, Walker preferred as key forwards and Jacobs/Jenkins preferred as ruckmen. Still only 21, 196cm, 99kg. Not a world beater, but would be really handy as a big bodied target up forward (assuming Watts stays back) and relief ruckman for Jamar if needed. From Victoria so might want to come home?

Also Koby Stevens from the Eagles.

He's not as good at either role than Martin though

 

[The Dr]

He's not as good at either role than Martin though

Reckon Martin shades him as a ruck, but McKernan's more of a natural forward and still very young. Think he will eventually be better at both in time

 

[Punchy Demons]

Looking at other clubs lists these are the guys that for a variety of reasons (injury, form, pecking order) haven't had opportunities and that may be of value to us, along with what shouldn't cost the earth.


Feel free to add to each club's lists:





Adelaide: Andy Otten, Shaun McKernan
Brisbane:
Carlton:
Collingwood:
Essendon: Kyle Reimers
Fremantle: Dylan Roberton, Michael Walters, Jayden Pitt
Geelong: Tom Gillies
Gold Coast: Josh Toy
GWS:
Hawthorn: Mitch Hallahan
North Melbourne: Cameron Pederson
Port Adelaide: Jasper Pittard
Richmond: David Astbury, Jayden Post
St. Kilda:
Sydney: Jed Lamb
West Coast: Koby Stevens
Western Bulldogs:

 

[lose]

Dave Astbury is an interesting 1.. I grew up playing footy nd cricket with him at Tatyoon.. he's a couple of yrs younger than me but played all his junior sports wit my bro.. has good size now and has a great footy brain, may be a touch slow thou.. has only missed a heap of footy due to injury but is loved by Dimma and he loves Richmond..
Although he was a Melbourne supporter until he was drafted

 

[Andy_Mac]

I'd look at Curtly Hampton as a small forward.

 

[The Dr]

Blues - Jeff Garlett

GC - Josh Caddy

Bris - Drew Banfield

Port - Jacob Surjan

 

[Deemanding]

Blues - Jeff Garlett

GC - Josh Caddy

Bris - Drew Banfield

Port - Jacob Surjan

Brisbane can keep Drew Banfield thanks

 

[eskimo]

I'll add -

Shannon Byrnes from Geelong. A little on the older side, but a good stop gap for the mean time. Geelong have a history of helping their p[layers get to a club who offers them more opportunity, so could very well be done with a 4th round pick or something similar.

Jared Polec from Brisbane - Only seen glimpses, but what he has shown has been good. Brisbane probably don't want to let him go, but he hasn't been getting a great deal of opportunity up there.

Aaron Cornelius from Brisbane - Another one who has shown glimpses but not cemented a spot. Can mark the ball well, but sometimes struggles to get involved in games.

I'll put in a second vote for Drew Banfield - well worth a look in I think. Plus if Bate gets delisted we need to replace him with another Ranga!

Kirk Ugle from the Pies - Only been there for a year, but can't much opportunity. Might want more of a go somewhere else.

Mitch Brown from the Cats - Another one who is lacking opportunity. Cats probably wouldn't want to let him go, but might chase some opportunity, but might also cost too much.

Simon Hogan from the Cats - see above.

Mitch Duncan - See above

Liam Anthony from the Kangas - In and out of the team, but does some very good things. Also prone to the occasional brain fade, but he offers decent depth if nothing else.

Matt Campbell from the Kangas - Less annoying than his namesake commentator, and has very good skills. Seems to lack a little in the fitness department, and as a result struggles to get into games, but that can be fixed. Kangas fans thoroughly over rate him (like the rest of their list), but who knows what their football department think and what he would cost.

Big ones from the Saints are Montagna and Goddard - Obvioulsy worth a lot more than others in this list, but they do have well publicised salary cap issues, so a trade, whilst expensive, but be well accommodated by the Saints.

From the Saints rookie list is Cameron Shenton - Has played some really good games for Sandy this year. He is a mid-sized forward though, which we have plenty of, but if Bate, Dunn, Jurrah and Petterd are all gone, it opens up a window for someone.

Koby stevens from West Coast - see what everyone else has said.

The other Mitch Brown from West Coast - Lacks opportunity, and as a result I haven't seen much of him this year. Big wraps on him 2 seasons ago, but obviously hasn't continued down that road. Does anyone else know more about his recent form?

Tom Swift from West Coast - from potential number one draft pick at U16's level, to not being able to get a game when West Coast was last on the ladder, to struggling for WAFL form. Is from WA, but a change of environment might help him. Has good pace and decent skills, but seems lost in the WCE system.

Clinton Young from Hawthorn - Seems back in favour lately, but he seems to be Alistair Clarksons whipping boy at times. Would be great running down the wing for us.

Brad Hill from Hawthorn - Behind Mr. Delicious at the hawks for obvious reasons. Would be a walk up start into our forward line with what he has shown at times. Needs to find consistency, but even Steven Milne has struggled with that at times.

Amos Frank from Hawhtorn - Hawthorns answer to Aussie, but he seems dead set on having a long football career. Has really struggled to get onto a senior list, but his skills are fantastic. Needs to work on his fitness, but what he has shown at Box Hill this year has been very exciting.

Michael Walters from Freo - Has had disciplinary issues, but he showcased exactly what he is capable of against us on the weekend. One that Freo probably want to retain, but if the offer was right you never know. Might cost too much if Freo do want to keep him though.

Also worth looking at from the VFL -

Michael Stockdale from Willy (formerly at Casey) - dashing rebound defender. Think Jarred Harbrow, but not as skillful, but that could be addressed if he was a full time footballer.

Matt Little from Bendigo - under-sized KPF, but could provide a good third option if our mid sized forward stocks are delisted.

Adam Cockie from Sandy (formerly West Coast) - had all the attributes of an AFL player apart from the commitment at West Coast. Seems dead set on getting a second chance.

Carl Peterson from Northern Blues (formerly Hawthorn) - See above

Chris Cain from Port Melbourne - Not too sure about him myself as a I haven't really noticed him, but a few other people are raging about him. Someone else give us some more info if you don't mind!

Dean Galea from Port Melbourne - Anyone who saw Casey play Port 2 weeks ago has seen the best of this guy. Can absolutely dominate a game of VFL footy, however is undersized for a KPP at AFL level. But he does seem to absolutely love a contest. Is also prone to going missing sometimes, but again - worst case is he bolsters Casey and we have something to cheer for.