Re: Proof 911 was an Inside Job?
The only HARD evidence maybe. But I would have thought that was the whole point of a cover-up. Wouldn't be much of a cover-up if hard evidence was left lying around for folks to seize upon.
Indirect evidence however:
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Collapse at freefall speed
WTC 1 Collapse time = 15.28 seconds
WTC 2 Collapse time = 22.02 seconds
Freefall time from same height = 9.22 seconds
In every video and photo you can see the perimeter columns far outpacing the collapse. Were these strapped to rockets to bring them down faster?
Truthers cut their videos out when the perimeter columns hit the ground and not the building.
No toppling of the structures above the impact sites
This is actually part of what initiated the collapse. As the top of the buildings tilted it pushed down on the supporting floor, which created further tension in the weakend trusses which eventually gave way. This Along with the bowing of the trusses, pulling in the perimeter columns was the mechanism that began the pancake collapse of the underlying floors. The top sections then disintegrated when they struck the ground.
Enormous buildings that collapsed into their own footprint
Were they wearing snowshoes? The actual footprint for each of the towers was 1 acre (total of 2 acres). The debris after the collapse, was scattered over a
16 acre site. That’s some big feet!
Debris whisked away and shipped overseas without proper examination
Not true. The removal wasn’t concluded until May of the following year. Dr W. Gene Corley, head of the Building Performance Assessment Team, saw no problem with the removal. In his testimony to the House of Representatives he said that
“The team has had full access to the scrap yards and to the site and has been able to obtain numerous samples”.
Reports of explosions heard at the scene prior to the collapse
Each floor had about an acre of 3” - 4 “ concrete flooring. The sound of that plus office furniture and equipment collapsing on an office below would make a very loud boom. Steel snapping under tension would make a very loud boom. Large transformers exploding in the building would make a very loud boom. Large oil filled transformers exploding from the fire in WTC 7 could account for explosions heard in the building before collapsing. Many of the people who said they heard explosions also said they realized it was the building collapsing causing the sound. Even bodies hitting the ground sounded like explosions to some people.
Some say “It was like” before saying what they heard. People generally try to describe something hard to describe by saying it’s like something most people know. Like the sound of a hurricane is often described as a freight train by survivors.
You would expect a few people who are under attack by terrorists to think a loud boom is an explosive going off.
Reports of pools of molten metal at the scene following the collapse
No one has scientifically proven the molten substance was steel. Can even be molten glass coating steel or an aluminum mixed with something else. Steel can burn/oxidize and would explain red hot steel
The photo of firemen over a glowing hole (often used as evidence to support this flimsy claim) cannot be molten steel. The heat would have been too great for the firemen. No demolition in history ever had steel glow for weeks.
The amount of thermite (the supposed source of the alleged molten steel) needed to collapse the tower would have been massive. (Tons) Impossible to hide. Thermite cannot cut columns without large canisters all around the column. Thermite needs another primary charge to set it off. It would have exploded during impact explosion.
Not to mention an entire building collapsing as a result of fire. A phenomenon completely unheard of before.
It is not a phenomenon completely unheard of. There are many examples of steel structures collapsing from fire including:
Interstate 580 Bridge
Kadar Toy Factory
Mumbai High North Platform
However, it
is the first time in history an airliner rammed into a steel hi-rise building built like the towers (Tube in a Tube design). It’s the first time in history a steel framed building built like Building 7 (Con Ed substation in the lower floors and a cantilever column core) was hit by another steel framed building.
Unprotected steel collapsed within 2 1/2 hours in Madrid fire without being hit by anything.
AArgh!!! Please, please, please you guys! This has all been covered ad nauseum already in this very thread! Everything above has already been mentioned by ODN, The Bloods and others pages and pages ago. Do some research into both sides of the story, not just the Truther sites or Loose Change. Here are some links to some of the best:
911 Myths
Debunking 911
Screw Loose Change
Mark Roberts rebuttal of Loose Change
Mark Roberts rebuttal of the WTC 7 “evidence” for controlled demolition
How many of you have actually read the
911 Commission report? The
NIST report? Don’t just rely on the opinions of the
“scholars” who’ve read it for you, research it for yourself, look at the facts! Read the documents, search the investigative records - it is all available in the public domain.
I get where you are coming from. Really, I do. I used to think like you guys. The moon landings, JFK, Jack the Ripper, Diana, Dead Sea Scrolls, Billy the Kid - if there was a conspiracy theory I believed it. I would read up on all the sites that confirmed my beliefs, I’d debate the “sheeple” in the forums, I’d dismiss their “evidence” as irrelevent because it was supplied by those that might have an interest in a cover up. Deep down I loved the idea of being in the know, that I could see through the lies. The theories also made the world a little more interesting. I had no interest in the real politics or events. It was the cover-up, the unseen, faceless men who were manipulating the whole thing that peaked my imagination. What was their agenda? How did they do it?
When I finally read some of the differing points of view and saw the mountains of evidence piled up against my beliefs it shattered me. And in the end, that’s what they were - beliefs. I had no proof, all the evidence pointed against it but I just believed. Like the god of the gaps, I filled in the anomolies, the spaces that the official theories couldn’t explain were evidence that the conspiracy existed - until the gap was filled - then I’d search for or create new gaps.
This wasn’t research, this wasn’t truth, this wasn’t critical thinking! It was nothing more than unsupported theory, speculation and belief.
It is so important to think critically, to do this you must examine both sides of the story! Please check out some of the links I have supplied above. At the very least you will have tested your beliefs. If you can dismiss what you read as ridiculous and can back this up with what you’ve already learned then you really will know the truth!