News Proposed draft changes

[Hamsatma]

The more I think about it the more stupid I feel it is. Also, who tf are these supposedly always shit clubs? Brisbane are clearly on the way up, Saints made 2 gfs in a row a few years ago, bullies won it two years ago, freo were in the gf a couple years ago. Other than carlton and gc it's just swings and roundabouts - you'll be good then you'll be shit. At the end of the day, clubs that are routinely terrible only have themselves to blame.

 

[muzhogg]

Given that the quality in the draft tends to level out after the first round, it's not clear that giving preferred access to picks after the top dozen or so is really going to make much difference to list quality. At best, lower placed clubs are going to get more options as to what sort of player they draft -- say a kpp vs midfielder or small forward vs ruck -- but given that they already get access to the cream of the draft, I'm unconvinced that much will change.

In any case, success isn't going to come by getting access to the top picks. Putting aside the fact that a club with a good development programme will do more with pick 30 than a club with a poor programme can do with pick 1, the fact is that it's not one or two top ten draft picks that will win you sustained success. Yeah, you want those players, but as has often been discussed what really matters is the quality of your bottom 6.

In the end, I can see clubs like Sydney and Hawthorn (and I hope Richmond!) missing out on the top 20 draft picks in the proposed system, but still recruiting the good "B grade" players they need -- either through the draft or from other team's lists. All they need to do to is to top this off by recruiting the odd star player or two to move their list from "pretty good" to "outstanding".

The basic point: it's how smartly you draft, and how you develop players that matters. Simply loading up on top end talent isn't even closely a guarantee of success. As plenty of others have pointed out, clubs who keep failing (we're looking at you Carlton and GC Suns) are failing for reasons which have nothing to do with the talent on their lists.

 

[Power Play]

Would we be seeing all these proposed changes to the game if Adelaide had won the grand final last year?

Absolutely not.

 

[JR82]

Just stop AFL. There has to be bad sides deal with it.

Besides blues have had 7 top 20 picks in last 3 drafts, it hasn’t helped

This!
How about getting rid of the academy bidding system & quit compromising every draft! That along with Priority Picks & this will be massively compromised Draft coming up!

 

[Bojangles17]

I love how when we went through a rough trot , most would have been happy to see us relocated let alone offer any help. Now carlspoon and the like have a lousy 20 years and everyone’s up in arms at a lop sided Comp .
Give me s break , this is elite sport not some socialist experiment hell bent on equality at every turn

 

[joelsyt]

Maybe its coincidental but all these proposed changes to the game seemed to surface following the Tigers getting to the top of the heap....just sayin.

Which is why it’s so stupid!

We were a basket case for 37 years, we clawed our way to the top. If we can do it eventually then you can be damn sure other teams can do it eventually.

However certain teams (initials C. B.) haven’t picked up yet that it’s the off-field changes that really help a club rebuild.

 

[Dr Tigris]

I agree that clubs that are continually bottom need help. But loading them up with even more good kids won't help much. It's all about management and culture.

The 2 options the AFL have are too loaded to punish finalists. It's the bottom 3ish teams that need help. Not someone coming 9th. Just have a clear cut rule that if you come bottom 3 for x years you get an end of first round pick. Or if you win less than x games over three years you get an end of first round pick. Take the bull out of how the AFL does the whole priority pick.

Those options effectively punish the top teams for being good by taking them out of the 'first round'.

And I can imagine that Carlton will get half millions top picks and trash their way through kids like crazy. Then the AFL will face the problem of kids wanting to leave the crap clubs. Then we have to fix the 'problem' of player retention. When it's all about management and culture.

 

[tunksy]

Just bloody leave the game alone.

Continually changing the draft for academies and zones is what compromises the draft.

Father son is a good unique tradition it didnt need massive change.

It makes logical sense the way it is.

How about the onus be on the clubs to develop and recruit smartly.

We managed to come from shit. So dud the dogs. Saints contended for years.

 

[Bojangles17]

This!
How about getting rid of the academy bidding system & quit compromising every draft! That along with Priority Picks & this will be massively compromised Draft coming up!

You need academy bidding or scrap them all together , it is the only genuine means that a club pays market price. Academys are a very good idea and will ultimately serve their purpose in more indigenous and multi cultural kids being on afl lists

 

[wegetpumped]

In short the afl cgagf. Every year I care less about football and its cause of reasons like they propose. I used to watch all games to see what out team had to face and now it's come to watching my team only and only cause i luv them. I don't really go looking at scores of other games or news. Poo did i say in short i'll shut up now.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Have trouble believing that their is not any friction between the 18 clubs and the offal...not a peep!

 

[Bojangles17]

These ideas wouldn’t go down well

 

[JR#8]

What a ****ing joke. I hope they're getting laughed at by the top 8 clubs.

Where was this shit when we were down the bottom??

****ing Carlton & GC ****ing up the game for everyone because they've been shit for too long. hahaha

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Just say we're bottom 3 and Dusty(Non FA) accepts an offer to go to GWS who are top of the ladder.
GWS's best offer trade wise is their 1st pick at 25ish.
Even if they give us the following years 1st as well.
Good one AFL well thought through again.
The strong get stronger the weak get weaker still.

 

[beema limapep]

doesnt bother me. two more drinks from the troph in 2018 (lynch + fa mids pick 20), similar in 2019 and then Maurice Rioli Jnr with our first pick in 2020.

We are going to remain a top 4 side for at least 3-4 years.

then it will be there to help us out in 2021 when Jack, Rance, Cotch and Dusty retire

 

[mightymouse75]

Too many people in afl administration . Making crap up for the sake of it. If they hadnt brought in free agency there would be less players moving to the big clubs at the prime of their careers

 

[tigernsw]

AFL rewarding mediocrity.

Nothing wrong with the current system.

Saints played in 3 grand finals in the last 10 years
Freo went close and probably should have won at least 1
Brissy won 3 in a row and look to be building nicely
Gold coast stuffed up their draft picks and were run by twits, but will build again.
Melbourne have rebuilt over many years

Carlton are the exceptions - they were/are run by bozos and that's why they haven't rebuilt properly

Giving lowly teams more picks will just make them act more erratically - trading them etc when they should draft and develop.

You have to wonder about the people running the AFL.

 

[JR82]

Draft is compromised every year with Academy bidding etc, this is what needs to change!

 

[Hank Heavenly]

If they want to make it easier for clubs to bounce back up the ladder, they actually have to make it easier for player movement, not harder.

They need to embrace FA and lower the FA years served to 4 at your exiting club.

Will make it more easier for clubs to get mid range players that make the difference

 

[JR82]

If they want to make it easier for clubs to bounce back up the ladder, they actually have to make it easier for player movement, not harder.

They need to embrace FA and lower the FA years served to 4 at your exiting club.

Will make it more easier for clubs to get mid range players that make the difference

The issue for bottom Clubs is nobody wants to go to them.

 

[Bojangles17]

If they want to make it easier for clubs to bounce back up the ladder, they actually have to make it easier for player movement, not harder.

They need to embrace FA and lower the FA years served to 4 at your exiting club.

Will make it more easier for clubs to get mid range players that make the difference

Spot on , I made that point earlier , broaden the pool of available FA , loosening the encumbrances that bind players to clubs and it will have a much greater short term effect across the board from top sides to bottom, favouring those that have cleverely left pockets in their TPP to cash in

 

[Bojangles17]

The issue for bottom Clubs is nobody wants to go to them.

That’s not entirely true , if the pool was wider you’d see far more of the Polec style deals happening where mid range players are very much attracted to the big dollars , mindful that an extra 100-200k pa is much greater impact on contracts <1m than over

 

[Hank Heavenly]

The issue for bottom Clubs is nobody wants to go to them.

thats because at the moment, the player movement is so thin.

If you got 5 players who all were happy to move to a team to play together (maybe all played TAC Cup or in the same U18's carnival side together), and could move them all at the same time you would have a lot more luck.