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Protecting George Pell
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Where for art your brain Romeo?
Yes they believed him. So what ? Likely so do you.
But that is only half the argument.
The fact that Catholics were encouraged to disqualify themselves from jury duty ought have made it a miss trial right from the get go.
Imagine a case of alleged 'polluting the environment' and the jury was you and all your vegan hysterical nutters , wouldn't even have to run the case : 12-0 unanimous! Guilty!!!!
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Possibly. Certainly dead inside. But that is probably common with people who dedicate their lives to not having families and being surrounded by loved ones.
Doesnt make him guilty though. Right?
7 High Court Judges made the decision based on all the information. Didnt they?
We have to be happy that the legal system worked. Like when Pauline Hanson was released on Appeal. Lucky for her that her legislation removing the right to appeal never got through.
Is there any reason a man convicted of no crimes should not be free?
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good, defund that anti Australian rabble
When you see a statement like that from the Victorian state premier, how such an obvious miscarriage of justice prevailed all the way to the high court becomes apparent. Remarkable petulant statement.
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Especially considering that molesting boys is a far prouder tradition within the Catholic church.
someone did quote some stats from what i can remember that molestation is around the same at state schools as private or catholic schools
so if that is the case you may be wrong with that statement
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A bigger deal out west.
And thus a rock spider walks free after conviction despite an already unanimous vote. Time to see if anyone wants to purchase Queensland.
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If a made up statistic I've thought of in my head is correct, that would make you wrong. Checkmate.
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What do schools have to do with the proud Catholic tradition of paedophilia?
So what's the lowdown? Was he actually found innocent of all charges on appeal? Or just not guilty due to lack of evidence providing enough reasonable doubt to quash the conviction/s?
I know he's a free man regardless but what is his actual status now? Innocent or just unconvicted?
I know he's a free man regardless but what is his actual status now? Innocent or just unconvicted?
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No one is ever “found innocent” in a positive sense by an appeal court. Our system considers you are innocent if you are not guilty. And he is not guilty.
The language of the judgement is pretty assertive though leaving little doubt of their thoughts.
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They just reported on the facts like other news stations
As much as it would be a RW wet dream, it really isn’t.
The media (ABC or not) will continue to report previous and upcoming allegations against Pell.
No one in the Victorian legal system will be sacked
90% of Australians will think Pell is a filthy pedo who got off on a technicality
Pell will spend the rest of his life confined to the virtual prison of a church run retirement home lest he come across the 90% of Australian who think he is a filthy pedo
Yeah fair enough.
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They're all going after the ABC because apparently reporting news is not allowed anymore. You have to report opinion and what Andrew Bolt wants you to report.
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High Court legal brain is proudly refusing to consider the centuries of child abuse within the Catholic Church to remain impartial but overturning a decision based on the tradition of robe wearing by Catholic clergy.Especially considering that molesting boys is a far prouder tradition within the Catholic church.
"Ah well, you see the police officer couldn't have beaten the man in question as all police officers are required by state law to wear an on body camera device. As we have no footage from the camera showing the police officer beating the suspect, and the prosecution has failed to explain WHY the on body camera device wasn't filming, the High Court concludes that there is reasonable doubt the police officer didn't beat the man in question."
George Pell verdict:
Victorian justice system is the biggest loser as convictions quashed
The Victorian justice system is the biggest loser from the High Court’s resounding vindication of Cardinal George Pell. After Victoria’s courts attempted to silence the world’s media over the cardinal’s conviction, it is now clear to all that the conviction itself should never have happened.
This state’s criminal justice system has tarnished the international reputation of Australian justice. The Pell conviction is a scandal that will rank alongside the outrageous jailing of Lindy Chamberlain for the murder of her baby – who was actually taken by a dingo.
Just like the Chamberlain case, the Pell disaster will inevitably find its way into a movie that will do no favours for a justice system that led to the jailing of a sick, old cardinal after years of frenzy that has been found to have no basis in law.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
It does not end there. Pell’s tormentors in the media will need to re-examine the way they engaged in a campaign of character assassination against an innocent man.
The Victorian government cannot escape the fallout from this affair. The community frenzy against the cardinal strengthens the argument that Victoria should join NSW by allowing high-profile criminal matters to be heard by a judge alone – without the assistance of a jury.
In NSW, Eddie Obeid and former state minister Ian Macdonald are facing criminal charges before a judge alone precisely because of the history of media-led frenzy against them. Yet no such mechanism is available in Victoria.
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Cucked by a paedo, what sad act.George Pell verdict:
Victorian justice system is the biggest loser as convictions quashed
The Victorian justice system is the biggest loser from the High Court’s resounding vindication of Cardinal George Pell. After Victoria’s courts attempted to silence the world’s media over the cardinal’s conviction, it is now clear to all that the conviction itself should never have happened.
This state’s criminal justice system has tarnished the international reputation of Australian justice. The Pell conviction is a scandal that will rank alongside the outrageous jailing of Lindy Chamberlain for the murder of her baby – who was actually taken by a dingo.
Just like the Chamberlain case, the Pell disaster will inevitably find its way into a movie that will do no favours for a justice system that led to the jailing of a sick, old cardinal after years of frenzy that has been found to have no basis in law.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
It does not end there. Pell’s tormentors in the media will need to re-examine the way they engaged in a campaign of character assassination against an innocent man.
The Victorian government cannot escape the fallout from this affair. The community frenzy against the cardinal strengthens the argument that Victoria should join NSW by allowing high-profile criminal matters to be heard by a judge alone – without the assistance of a jury.
In NSW, Eddie Obeid and former state minister Ian Macdonald are facing criminal charges before a judge alone precisely because of the history of media-led frenzy against them. Yet no such mechanism is available in Victoria.
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Come again? I'm more pointing out a common theme running in all the conservative commentators who rail against the ABC. They don't rail against Channel 9, 7 etc for reporting the news, just the ABC. Their ideological bullshit of basically wanting the media to be like the USA where opinion outweighs news.
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I don’t know enough about the case to know if he really did it and deserves jail and has escaped on a technicality.
Or if he was innocent and justice has been done. All I will say is I hope victims keep coming forward and put the kiddy fiddlers where they belong
Or if he was innocent and justice has been done. All I will say is I hope victims keep coming forward and put the kiddy fiddlers where they belong
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Please stop posting opinion pieces from the garbage. For starters only sad saps like you who pay for the content can read them and secondly they're written by people who couldn't pass year 7.George Pell verdict:
Victorian justice system is the biggest loser as convictions quashed
The Victorian justice system is the biggest loser from the High Court’s resounding vindication of Cardinal George Pell. After Victoria’s courts attempted to silence the world’s media over the cardinal’s conviction, it is now clear to all that the conviction itself should never have happened.
This state’s criminal justice system has tarnished the international reputation of Australian justice. The Pell conviction is a scandal that will rank alongside the outrageous jailing of Lindy Chamberlain for the murder of her baby – who was actually taken by a dingo.
Just like the Chamberlain case, the Pell disaster will inevitably find its way into a movie that will do no favours for a justice system that led to the jailing of a sick, old cardinal after years of frenzy that has been found to have no basis in law.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
It does not end there. Pell’s tormentors in the media will need to re-examine the way they engaged in a campaign of character assassination against an innocent man.
The Victorian government cannot escape the fallout from this affair. The community frenzy against the cardinal strengthens the argument that Victoria should join NSW by allowing high-profile criminal matters to be heard by a judge alone – without the assistance of a jury.
In NSW, Eddie Obeid and former state minister Ian Macdonald are facing criminal charges before a judge alone precisely because of the history of media-led frenzy against them. Yet no such mechanism is available in Victoria.
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What does that have to do with my question?George Pell verdict:
Victorian justice system is the biggest loser as convictions quashed
The Victorian justice system is the biggest loser from the High Court’s resounding vindication of Cardinal George Pell. After Victoria’s courts attempted to silence the world’s media over the cardinal’s conviction, it is now clear to all that the conviction itself should never have happened.
This state’s criminal justice system has tarnished the international reputation of Australian justice. The Pell conviction is a scandal that will rank alongside the outrageous jailing of Lindy Chamberlain for the murder of her baby – who was actually taken by a dingo.
Just like the Chamberlain case, the Pell disaster will inevitably find its way into a movie that will do no favours for a justice system that led to the jailing of a sick, old cardinal after years of frenzy that has been found to have no basis in law.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
Fundamental error
Two of the most senior judges in Victoria – Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Court of Appeal president Chris Maxwell – have been shown to have made a fundamental error; the reliability of the state’s jury system has been left in doubt; and the wisdom of the police in effectively advertising for complaints about the cardinal has also been called into question.
It does not end there. Pell’s tormentors in the media will need to re-examine the way they engaged in a campaign of character assassination against an innocent man.
The Victorian government cannot escape the fallout from this affair. The community frenzy against the cardinal strengthens the argument that Victoria should join NSW by allowing high-profile criminal matters to be heard by a judge alone – without the assistance of a jury.
In NSW, Eddie Obeid and former state minister Ian Macdonald are facing criminal charges before a judge alone precisely because of the history of media-led frenzy against them. Yet no such mechanism is available in Victoria.
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