Pulling Hair

[Smoky]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

So now his elbow didn't move upwards from Brown's chest? Make up your mind.

Where'd you pull that one from?

When you try and claim that I've said something I clearly haven't maybe you should highlight the exact part of my quote you are referring to...

Otherwise with that style of posting I might as well say... "what you say he ran over him with a 1980 XD Ford... you're off your head!"

Don't make up lies to further your case... everything I said is in writing on this thread.

It's a style of posting the biggest troll on Bigfooty uses... and it seems to be growing with crap like you've just written

 

[Trjn]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Elbow in front of Browns chest... moves its way upwards trying to push Brown off him

Hard to move your elbow "way upwards" from someone's chest without manage to make contact to the head.

 

[Smoky]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Hard to move your elbow "way upwards" from someone's chest without manage to make contact to the head.

Especially when your being bent over backwards over a metal picket fence, let alone having your hair pulled at the same time!

 

[Chief]

Oh for... There was barely anything in it from either side. Brief grip of the hair, push at the head. They both restrained themselves from actually causing any harm.

I saw it ... right in front of me (on the telly).

 

[Trjn]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

This is a picket fence:

This is the fence at the Gabba:

Note the lack of pickets and the fact that Harry is in fact pushing Brown into the fence. I'm happy to inform you that this is the first point at which a player makes contact with the fence and it's quite clear that it is O'Brien throwing Brown into it initially.

Also for your consideration:

If you're going to be insistent on that "picket fence" terminology, at least get it right.

Don't worry, Harry's a tough guy. He's been held at gunpoint you know.

 

[esc0bar]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Three words for this thread and the amount of posts that have been aimed back at harry.

TALL POPPY SYNDROME...

Australians for years have shot down anyone who develops a status above theirs. No wonder this nation never goes forward. Hate is only surpased by your ignorance.

 

[King Of The Hille]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

shame, shame, shame.

Gave Harry's hair a girly pull late in second quarter while involved in a scuffle.

LOL

Browny would eat this muppet alive.

 

[Beckers]

Great game from Nason this week

Still a crappy hair style that just yells 'pull me' though!

 

[the woodsmen2010]

Pulling hair is the girlyist act in the world,i thought brown was the "tuff man" of football,not a hair pulling pansie...

 

[Trjn]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Three words for this thread and the amount of posts that have been aimed back at harry.

TALL POPPY SYNDROME...

Australians for years have shot down anyone who develops a status above theirs. No wonder this nation never goes forward. Hate is only surpased by your ignorance.

Just wondering, what's your position on those who are taking pot shots at the guy who has actually achieved something on the field? You know, the one with the premiership medals, Coleman and multiple All-Australian selections?

 

[Kaiser Powser]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Similar to punching Josh Carr in the face, you should be allowed to pull Harry Flogbrian's hair.

And why not? He won't care, after all, he's been held at gunpoint and witnessed a stabbing. And there are starving kids and shit out there in like Africa and they have nothing to eat but flys and there are like problems with our indiginous people, and I want to meet Obama to discuss all this and make the world all better. If we cover the world with a blanket of love, then we can be in touch with the love from each and every person. I will call it Harry's blanket theory.

 

[ziad]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

so a cripple beat collingwood

I liked the - Similar to punching Josh Carr in the face, analogy

 

[Homer Jnr]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Play on! They had a grapple, so be it! Brown got less hair than O'Brien got of Brown's face.

25 years ago O'Brien would be checking out the guttering around the fenceline for his teeth.

 

[Homer Jnr]

The only pansies on the football field are the players with long 'pansy' hair.

Watch the vision of many one-on-scraps that J Brown has been in, he puts his hand on the back on many necks, its just that Harry O'Brien has long flowing locks back there.

Get over it.

 

[keepzitreal]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Thought it was amusing at the start of the game in recent times Harry's been getting in peoples faces.. loved how Browny got in his face and then he ran off like a little beach..

 

[Smoky]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Nothing from Smoky today... I think he may have been hospitalised with heart palpitations given how worked up he was about the whole issue.

Wow... Obsessed with me much?

Obviously no one was hurt... the push backwards over the fence was a little unsavory... the elbow in the chest and hand in the face was a lot less unsavory... but pulling hair... Isn't that a little more than unsavory? I know it was a short amount of time, but was obviously forceful enough to tilt Harry's head. I cannot remember once in my life an incident where someone that pulled another persons hair was treated as such a hero???

Now the issue of this thread is hair-pulling. Now if Harry is cited because of his actions I will be blown away... but after 3 incidents of Hair-pulling over the past couple of weeks (2 of which were sanctioned with fines???) and the 3rd is a high profile player, will the AFL stand strong on trying to stop a precedent starting? The fines generally for wrestling with a player are around $2,500 - $3,000 generally... what should hair pulling be worth? I say more.

Would the AFL prefer that the general frustration be taken out by players having a bit of a wrestle or going around pulling each others hair?

Everyone who has jumped on this thread to put in their 2 bobs worth about the fact that Harry has good opinions on bad things in our world have once again turned a thread that involves a Collingwood player into a thread of absolute trolling tripe where the direct topic of the thread has been completely avoided. A Collingwood supporting Mod might be able to see that this has become completely off topic and is purely a Collingwood trolling thread... hows about, we stick to the topic... I read in the rules somewhere that taking threads off topic will not be tolerated (and can't find the small print that says unless it's a Collingwood trolling thread )

The question is in Bold!

 

[Subaru Impreza]

Players should be fined more heavily i regards to pulling hair in my opinion.

I rate it right up there as spitting on a player and wiping blood across another players shirt.

 

[Trjn]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Wow... Obsessed with me much?

Obviously no one was hurt... the push backwards over the fence was a little unsavory... the elbow in the chest and hand in the face was a lot less unsavory... but pulling hair... Isn't that a little more than unsavory? I know it was a short amount of time, but was obviously forceful enough to tilt Harry's head. I cannot remember once in my life an incident where someone that pulled another persons hair was treated as such a hero???

Before you were decrying the push into the fence as a great evil that could have ruined Harry's career and even his ability to walk (before you try to accuse me of making things up, here's your quote) :

where could Harry have gone? Backwards over a fence so his career was over... or walking was over?

Now it's just "a little unsavory." Would that be because I pointed out that Brown was also a victim of the same crime?

Now the issue of this thread is hair-pulling. Now if Harry is cited because of his actions I will be blown away

A hand in the face has resulted in suspension before, unnecessary contact to the head has been a hot topic this year, especially in light of Judd's eye gouge last year.

Ash McGrath was suspended earlier this year for making unnecessary contact to Cameron Cloke's face. If there is any consistency in the MRP, Harry should accept the same punishment.

... but after 3 incidents of Hair-pulling over the past couple of weeks (2 of which were sanctioned with fines???) and the 3rd is a high profile player, will the AFL stand strong on trying to stop a precedent starting? The fines generally for wrestling with a player are around $2,500 - $3,000 generally... what should hair pulling be worth? I say more.

So a high profile player should be made example of and punished more severely than the players who performed the same action earlier this year? Where is the consistency in that? A precendant has been set, you should simply accept that hair pulling is simply not viewed as the heinous vile act that you seem to believe it is.

Would the AFL prefer that the general frustration be taken out by players having a bit of a wrestle or going around pulling each others hair?

General frustration caused by constant niggling and scragging. The AFL should be protecting the forwards who are often on the receiving end of such actions, not waiting until they've been pushed over the edge and then punishing them but stopping the defenders before it gets to that point.

Everyone who has jumped on this thread to put in their 2 bobs worth about the fact that Harry has good opinions on bad things in our world have once again turned a thread that involves a Collingwood player into a thread of absolute trolling tripe where the direct topic of the thread has been completely avoided.

This is a merged thread, the one we were responding to was about the incident where Brown and O'Brien wrestled late in the second quarter. Therefore me pointing out that O'Brien committed actions that are historically seen as worse is completely relevant to the discussion.

A Collingwood supporting Mod might be able to see that this has become completely off topic and is purely a Collingwood trolling thread... hows about, we stick to the topic... I read in the rules somewhere that taking threads off topic will not be tolerated (and can't find the small print that says unless it's a Collingwood trolling thread )

The question is in Bold!

Always the victim. . . if this was truly the case you wouldn't need to appeal to a Collingwood supporting mod but instead any capable mod would be able to spot it clear as day.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Players should be fined more heavily i regards to pulling hair in my opinion.

I rate it right up there as spitting on a player and wiping blood across another players shirt.

TBH I think i'd rather have my hair pulled a hundred times than be spat on or have blood smeared on me by another person

And i have quite long hair as well

Yes it's disrespectful, but not as foul as blood smearing, spitting, eye gouging etc.

 

[Smoky]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

Before you were decrying the push into the fence as a great evil that could have ruined Harry's career and even his ability to walk (before you try to accuse me of making things up, here's your quote) :

Now it's just "a little unsavory." Would that be because I pointed out that Brown was also a victim of the same crime?


A hand in the face has resulted in suspension before, unnecessary contact to the head has been a hot topic this year, especially in light of Judd's eye gouge last year.

Ash McGrath was suspended earlier this year for making unnecessary contact to Cameron Cloke's face. If there is any consistency in the MRP, Harry should accept the same punishment.


So a high profile player should be made example of and punished more severely than the players who performed the same action earlier this year? Where is the consistency in that? A precendant has been set, you should simply accept that hair pulling is simply not viewed as the heinous vile act that you seem to believe it is.


General frustration caused by constant niggling and scragging. The AFL should be protecting the forwards who are often on the receiving end of such actions, not waiting until they've been pushed over the edge and then punishing them but stopping the defenders before it gets to that point.


This is a merged thread, the one we were responding to was about the incident where Brown and O'Brien wrestled late in the second quarter. Therefore me pointing out that O'Brien committed actions that are historically seen as worse is completely relevant to the discussion.


Always the victim. . . if this was truly the case you wouldn't need to appeal to a Collingwood supporting mod but instead any capable mod would be able to spot it clear as day.

You have read the thread title you responded to?

"Jonothon Brown is a hair puller" not "Does Harry Obrien deserve no protection from rules like the rest of the AFL community because he has something to say outside football"

WTF is with your last paragraph? It makes no sense whatsoever... you do realize how your claims are exactly where I've pointed out where I think the problem lies???

You do realize that Jono Brown and Fevola got stuck into Harry before the first bounce and Harry didn't play on or niggle Brown before the incident... and holds on for a second too long after a tackle (oh NO... CALL THE COPS!) He's the first man in the History of the AFL to ever do that!

All good mate... Jono Brown pulls hair like a 10 year old school yard girl... we all know that now - FACT.

 

[Smoky]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/95375/default.aspx

Buddy's bump earns one-week suspension

By Adam McNicol 3:13 PM Mon 31 May, 2010

"Brisbane Lions star Jonathan Brown has been fined $1200 for pulling Harry O’Brien’s hair during Saturday night’s win over Collingwood at the Gabba. With an early guilty plea the fine can be reduced to $900."

Was this exactly the same as the other 2? Or did Mitchell get a bigger fine?

 

[Trjn]

Re: Tough man Jonathon Brown is a hair puller

You have read the thread title you responded to?

"Jonothon Brown is a hair puller" not "Does Harry Obrien deserve no protection from rules like the rest of the AFL community because he has something to say outside football"

How convenient of you to forget that Collingwood was awarded a free kick and 50m penalty from the incident.

WTF is with your last paragraph? It makes no sense whatsoever... you do realize how your claims are exactly where I've pointed out where I think the problem lies???

It's simple, you are constantly claiming to be the victim. If it was actually true, you wouldn't need to hide behind a Collingwood supporting moderator because any capable moderator should be able to spot it. When I pointed out a contradiction in what you said, you accused me of being a troll. I then quote your own text back at you and you change tact instead claiming that my description of the incident is impossible.

When I provide evidence that Harry acted as I claimed (and also the lack of pickets on the Gabba fence) you start insisting that what he did simply wasn't as bad as what Brown did.

You constantly align yourself as the victim because you can't accept that you're wrong.

You do realize that Jono Brown and Fevola got stuck into Harry before the first bounce and Harry didn't play on or niggle Brown before the incident... and holds on for a second too long after a tackle (oh NO... CALL THE COPS!) He's the first man in the History of the AFL to ever do that!

Then the umpires should have done their jobs and stopped it before it escalated.

All good mate... Jono Brown pulls hair like a 10 year old school yard girl... we all know that now - FACT.

All good mate... Harry O'Brien gets his hands and elbows in other player's faces like a cowardly scumbag... we all know that now - FACT.

 

[Nodgey]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/95375/default.aspx
Was this exactly the same as the other 2? Or did Mitchell get a bigger fine?

The other 2 got the same fine.

Which is interesting becasue I thought Brown's had extenuating circumstances. Mitchell and Ballantyne's were worse IMO.

 

[Smoky]

The other 2 got the same fine.

Which is interesting becasue I thought Brown's had extenuating circumstances. Mitchell and Ballantyne's were worse IMO.

I do agree, but the other 2 were stand out incidents in the same weekend... Browns 2 weeks later sets the precedent that $1,200/ $900 fine is the verdict no matter what for hairpulling.

Didn't Mitchell give 2 separate tugs... and from memory was the hardest hair pull of the lot? (I know "hardest" and "hair pull" shouldn't really be in the same sentence)

 

[Pancakes]

So in the end lets get this straight.

The umpires on the night awareded a free kick against Brown and then a 50m penalty against Brown.

The MRP have also fined Brown.

None of these people penalised O'Brien in any way.

So if the AFL who adore Brisbane more than anything, felt fit to penalise their star player on multiple occasions, then it must have been pretty bad.