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Apr 3, 2013
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No offence to Palmy or Surfers, but I wouldn't be confident of anyone from Grange hanging around for the main game on Saturday - the day will be long enough as it is.

I'm sure we'd prefer that the Colts GF was being held at Yeronga, but we're obviously used to playing on the GC and the boys are looking forward to having a run on the Metricon surface.
Maybe they should stick around... get a glimpse of what a successful senior team looks like!
 

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smy1305

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Grange knows what a successful senior team looks like, and how far away we are from being one, but we're working on it.

Hopefully we'll be busy celebrating somewhere else anyway, we give our Colts a 50/50 chance.
have heard that the Colts coach is going to move up a couple of grades to oversee the senior group in 2020 Judge?? Any truth to that??
 
Apr 3, 2013
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Grange knows what a successful senior team looks like, and how far away we are from being one, but we're working on it.

Hopefully we'll be busy celebrating somewhere else anyway, we give our Colts a 50/50 chance.

What are you working on exactly?? Seem to have gone no where in last few years??? Thought this year would be different but you just don't seem to have a winning culture???
 

Judge

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What are you working on exactly?? Seem to have gone no where in last few years??? Thought this year would be different but you just don't seem to have a winning culture???
I could say "Thanks for that champ", but I'll give you a bit more detail instead.

If a turnaround happens for Grange it won't happen quickly, and as you say the "culture" has to change - it's not like we're not aware of that.

You might say that this year was a false start, but our depth was ordinary to start with and from there pretty much everything which could go wrong did go wrong in terms of injuries, players leaving/retiring mid-season or Grange regulars like Corvo and Lipscombe being taken by Aspley NEAFL.

We didn't have the funds this year to bring new players in anyway (I'd be surprised if our spend on players' wages was any higher than Sandgate's, we only just paid the AFLQ minimum), but it looks like that's about to change as it will have to for us to be competitive in the seniors.

Anyway, we're certainly not worried about or distracted by what outsiders think, we've got a plan, plenty of good people involved off-field and time will tell whether or not it works.
 

FAN THE MAN

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If you want to change the culture, making Moloney a senior coach is a short cut to not doing so.

I'm sure his 'party' style is pretty similar to the out going one.

Get Steve Brittain back!
 

Judge

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If you want to change the culture, making Moloney a senior coach is a short cut to not doing so.

I'm sure his 'party' style is pretty similar to the out going one.

Get Steve Brittain back!
Fan, your account is a piss-take, right?

Has to be, no-one else on here has the ability to be invariably wrong about every thing, every time.

If not, it's time to take your afternoon meds.
 

smy1305

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If you want to change the culture, making Moloney a senior coach is a short cut to not doing so.

I'm sure his 'party' style is pretty similar to the out going one.

Get Steve Brittain back!
Bit harsh Fan. Who knows if Brent has mellowed over the last few years? Think you can only judge on what is in front of you, not on past reputation and he has done a good job with the colts group.
 

LionsPBC

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Wilston Grange is a well run club with some very good people there. Things happen in a lot of different ways which can be outside your control.

They now have arguably the best facilities in the comp. obviously there has been some funding assistance from various sources. But every club needs grants and significant fundraising to complete infrastructure projects.

Playing depth has been a problem for WG for as long as I can recall. But Im sure they are working hard on that.
 

FAN THE MAN

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Best Juniior club in Brisbane, it will eventually translate.

successive poor coaching appointments is what hurts them at senior level in my view, but I've been wrong once or twice.
 

LaggingBehind

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Wilston Grange is a well run club with some very good people there. Things happen in a lot of different ways which can be outside your control.

They now have arguably the best facilities in the comp. obviously there has been some funding assistance from various sources. But every club needs grants and significant fundraising to complete infrastructure projects.

Playing depth has been a problem for WG for as long as I can recall. But Im sure they are working hard on that.
Gee LionPBC you seem to be a lot calmer now Burge is playing Saturday.

I agree with your compliments to Wilston Grange workhorses

Also I think with the points system and salary cap in place the turnaround for the lower placed club will take an extra year or two. So get used to the two Grand Finalists being there abouts for the next 2-3 years at least
 

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2010premier

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Hoping for a great game but my tip is palmy by 56 points. They have the greater talent, and surfers have been up for a while and look a bit whacked around to me.

A great achievement by the d’s to make the GF in seniors and reserves no matter what happens they can be proud of their season
 

ashley76

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Best Juniior club in Brisbane, it will eventually translate.

successive poor coaching appointments is what hurts them at senior level in my view, but I've been wrong once or twice.
Um....no they are not. How many junior division 1 grand finals were they in???? I believe they were only in 1 under 16 div 3 final. They are not even the best junior club on the north side of Brisbane. That would be the Hornets
 

FAN THE MAN

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Um....no they are not. How many junior division 1 grand finals were they in???? I believe they were only in 1 under 16 div 3 final. They are not even the best junior club on the north side of Brisbane. That would be the Hornets
Junior footy is not all about Div 1 flags, this is where clubs get it wrong.

Grange would have 2 or 3 teams in each youth age group, a girls team in each age group (sometimes 2) and as many as 4 or 5 teams in each junior age group.

That is what junior success looks like. Participation and growing the game.

Sure, Wests, Hornets and Morningside might win more Div 1 flags - but Grange are the best junior club in my view. I've been critical of their alleged recruiting practices, but they aren't as bad as the other 3 mentioned and through pure numbers alone, getting 3+ teams in all age groups is a huge achivement
 

Still Me

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I honestly think Palmy will also be far to strong as Surfers looked a bit sluggish last week and the long campaign may be catching up with them.

Palmy by 46 points +
Jess Derricks BOG

Hope Surfers win 2's and get some consolation and Grange in Colts to share the glory around.

Good luck to everyone involved. Everyone has asked for a Coast GF so let's hope it is well attended.
 

LionsPBC

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Gee LionPBC you seem to be a lot calmer now Burge is playing Saturday.
One tends to feel calmer when one doesnt feel like their club and player is being bent over.

Palmy action in defending Jason totally justified and the perverse decision to challenge the tribunal decision was kicked to the kerb.

The grounds for the challenge never met the test and hence the appeal panel found that it was entirely reasonable that the tribunal panel made the decision to find Burge not guilty on the original charge.

To that end, although it was a 3 hour hearing, the appeal panel found there was no grounds to hear the appeal and ended the hearing.
 

LionsPBC

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The underlying issue though is that it does cost a bit to defend against these charges.

This can be the case in many instances of MRP and tribunal matters. Im not just referring to recent matters.

They don’t always get it right. And so if you don’t defend yourself you are open to being on the end of a bum deal.

It also costs the league, to conduct hearings. So they have incurred significant additional costs here also.
 

LionsPBC

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Also I think with the points system and salary cap in place the turnaround for the lower placed club will take an extra year or two. So get used to the two Grand Finalists being there abouts for the next 2-3 years at least
The points system has thrown up some quirky situations particularly around young players moving through Suns and Neafl. And moving to QAFL in order to play at higher level.

In the main, prob works pretty well and will get some tweaks over the offseason you would think.
 

LaggingBehind

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The underlying issue though is that it does cost a bit to defend against these charges.

This can be the case in many instances of MRP and tribunal matters. Im not just referring to recent matters.

They don’t always get it right. And so if you don’t defend yourself you are open to being on the end of a bum deal.

It also costs the league, to conduct hearings. So they have incurred significant additional costs here also.
I've already provided my personal view on the incident and in the footy world differing opinions will continue and is a fun part of the game.

However I really struggle to see how anyone can have confidence in the system for the next MRP ruling. You couldn't help but wonder what if we take this on.
 

LaggingBehind

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The points system has thrown up some quirky situations particularly around young players moving through Suns and Neafl. And moving to QAFL in order to play at higher level.

In the main, prob works pretty well and will get some tweaks over the offseason you would think.
Agreed. On the whole I think the premises of the points and cap are reasonable and just a few minor chinks to be ironed out. Surely it's not about preventing stockpiling top end players as opposed to preventing out of favour players seeking opportunity elsewhere.

I'd have to say that PBC's strategy to connect with higher ranking Southport players in Burge, Crowley, Anthony, Troutman & McKenzie was superior to clubs who went with the plan to access the fringe NEAFL players so they could get service from them during that year.
 

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