Review QF: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood

[footy4ever]

As soon as the club vehemently defended Rankine, this was an inevitable reaction from the crowd.

And it's about time the club showed some gonads in doing so. Clearly a huge majority of Crows supporters have had enough.

 

[Crow till I die]

The next game is going to be interesting. There will be alot seeking redemption. Fogarty, Soligo, Peatling, Cumming, Hinge, Berry, Keays, Taylor.

How do these semi finals usually pan out after a loss by a top 4 side, they usually win and win well then fall over in the prelim.

So i'd expect and hope we turn it around this week and give ourselves a shot at a prelim

 

[Trigger13]

Soligo needs to go away this off season and think long and hard about whether he wants to be a top line midfielder, or one of the lads, because after this disappointing campaign his career is at the crossroads

Given how he was tracking last year, I’d say he’s been our most disappointing player. I reckon this might be his ceilings. Lacks a bit of class.

 

[AFC979810]

So for our supporters, ‘Mac Andrew was caught being a continuous dickhead to Thilthorpe’ (which I’d wholeheartedly boo Mac for) is on the same level as ‘Quaynor apparently sledged Rankine on a non-personal level, which caused Izak to say a homophobic slur’?

There’s a time and a place

Opposition player targets Adelaide Crows player. Its highlighted publicly during in the weeks leading up to the rematch. Crows fans boo opposition players.

You can find reasons to be offended, shocked or hurt by anything if you look hard enough.

 

[Scorpus]

Nicks has A LOT to work on after last night, but the Fagan one is an interesting comparison, as it took him a long time to get the Lions to being good finals performers once they made it there.

We have to back it up with top 4 after top 4 after top 4 finishes, something the club has never managed

 

[BRL121]

Mcasey over serong is the one

But we wouldn't have Keane without that.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Opposition player targets Adelaide Crows player.

Why didn’t it happen in the Brisbane vs Hawthorn game?

And before you say ‘Rankine was provoked’: why tf did he say that word in the first place?

 

[fpm84]

Oh for god sake what a load of horse shit. The crowd booed when they ran out, they booed when Collingwood chanted, they booed when Houston got the ball, when Frampton got the ball, when Maynard got the ball. Stop following the media circus in making it an issue, because it's not.

Houston = KOd Rankine last year and seemingly made some gross remarks about it recently.

Frampton = former Crows player.

Maynard = known grub as shown by his antics post-siren.

So why was Quaynor booed? What’s he ever done to upset Crows fans? The answer seems pretty clear.

 

[craig crowing]

Good
Pedlar and lesser extend Tex showed how you get goals by actually leading .
Handful of players that could say they contributed.
Tex 300
Bad
Players playing selfish led by our skipper not first time with Keays,Smith etc etc bombing for unrealistic shot when obvious options.
No midfield and absolute no structure to get a open clearance .
NVB and until we get another mid coach things won't get better and waste talent talent like Soligo and Draper.
Cummings recruited to add to mid options etc just does nothing and is bruise free and putting time into youth rather than drop them after 1 average game even when they kick goals.
So many regular players some called starts making such stupid decisions and skills.
Leave booing of Quaynor as bad as though a form of supporting not good and more like our neighbour supporters not ours.
Ugly
Not having at least 1 forward to kick to when get turnover causing costly mistakes.
After giving the ball to Moore etc in first had no change of plans and passed to them even making Frampton looking good.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Houston = KOd Rankine last year and seemingly made some gross remarks about it recently.

Frampton = former Crows player.

Maynard = known grub as shown by his antics post-siren.

So why was Quaynor booed? What’s he ever done to upset Crows fans? The answer seems pretty clear.

The same thing Moore supposedly did. Which is why he was booed as well. I mean who really gives a shit? This is all driven by the media and then they come out and blast supporters for booing. It's pathetic.

 

[AFC979810]

I love how the anti-woke folk see WOKE as a bad thing and use it as an insult. It was a shitty look to boo a player who wasn’t offended by what Rankine said nor the one who reported it according to what has been said. He also happens to be indigenous. Houston was the instigator of the targeted attack on Rankine and while he got booed, it wasn’t as loud or as sustained as Quaynor. It was a shitty look. Sidebottom didn’t get booed at all… why? Wasn’t he the one who intimidated Rankine?

What does that have to do with anything? Why would you bring race into it?

Houston, Frampton, Maynard (to a lesser extent) are all white guys who were all boo'd.

But it's a bad look to Boo Quaynor because he wasn't offended?

 

[AFC979810]

Why didn’t it happen in the Brisbane vs Hawthorn game?

Why didn't what happen.

And before you say ‘Rankine was provoked’: why tf did he say that word in the first place?

Cause he is an idiot that made a mistake. The same mistake Alistair Clarkson made 15 months prior and got a suspended sentence for.

 

[footy4ever]

Yeah I know they're only stats, but complaints about the midfield performance perhaps aren't so warranted.

Looks pretty even slightly in our favour. One of the few times you can say that about the Crows.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Why didn't what happen.



Cause he is an idiot that made a mistake. The same mistake Alistair Clarkson made 15 months prior and got a suspended sentence for.

An opposition player targeting another player in that game (which I’m sure did happen, in fact I’m sure will happen in many finals this year, and in past years ), provoking those words

I don’t think he’s an idiot generally (though he was in the time), I think he’ll be able to learn from it and I think the persecution he’ll get for the next 10 years will be bullshit, but there’s a reason we want to eradicate these words from the game

 

[Soggy2112]

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Yeah I know they're only stats, but complaints about the midfield performance perhaps aren't so warranted.

Looks pretty even slightly in our favour. One of the few times you can say that about the Crows.

You’re correct in that stats don’t tell the story. Their mids consistently found open players to set up uncontested chains which led to scores. Ours consistently kicked it down Moore and his mates throats.

We were competitive in the contest, but were completely out coached and out classed.

 

[Scorpus]

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Yeah I know they're only stats, but complaints about the midfield performance perhaps aren't so warranted.

Looks pretty even slightly in our favour. One of the few times you can say that about the Crows.

"Matt Crouch is good because clearances" level analysis though

Not one of our midfielders had more than 3 score involvements

 

[por_please_ya]

Ugly: The crowd. Booing Quaynor? WHY. flipping ridiculous. If you were one of those people take a good, long, hard look at yourself please.

 

[AFC979810]

An opposition player targeting another player in that game (which I’m sure did happen, in fact I’m sure will happen in many finals this year, and in past years ), provoking those words

Well that stuff happens all the time. Players antagonize others to get them to make mistakes when frustrated. We see it all the time - provoked players will give away a free kick, will give away 50, punch a bloke (Lynch), use a bad word (Rankine).

In the cut throat industry that is professional sport I think it's smart to provoke. Collingwood were smart to target Rankine and it resulted in them easily beating us in the QF.

 

[Crom1995]

Oh for god sake what a load of horse shit. The crowd booed when they ran out, they booed when Collingwood chanted, they booed when Houston got the ball, when Frampton got the ball, when Maynard got the ball. Stop following the media circus in making it an issue, because it's not.

There's a difference between booing Houston and Frampton, who were booed the last time we played them to the booing of Quaynor. He wasn't booed the last time we played them, why was he this time?? Pretty obvious isn't it. Anyone who was at the ground and booed Quaynor, who was the victim of a homophobic slur, is a disgrace. Rankine is the one who ****ed his season, not Quaynor. Would they also boo Robbie Young for being the victim of Tex's racial slur? I've never been more embarrassed to be a crows fan than last night. I am more devastated by the behavioir of our fans than the performance, which was also a disgrace. The '19th man' certainly did their bit to galvanise the Collingwood players last night.

 

[footy4ever]

You’re correct in that stats don’t tell the story. Their mids consistently found open players to set up uncontested chains which led to scores. Ours consistently kicked it down Moore and his mates throats.

We were competitive in the contest, but were completely out coached and out classed.

We kicked it down Moore's throat because of the way we were set up ahead of the ball. It's as much on the coaching staff as anyone. Collingwood always had a spare unregistered dog roaming our forward line.

 

[footy4ever]

Ugly: The crowd. Booing Quaynor? WHY. flipping ridiculous. If you were one of those people take a good, long, hard look at yourself please.

Oh please.

 

[1970crow]

The frustration is that we've had the entire season to try and develop alternative midfield options - and we've refused to do so, so we're left with no choice.

It was ****ing obvious all season, it was always going to come back to bite us - and it has been magnified hugely by the loss of Rash and Ranks.

A pro-active, strategically minded coach would've tried to find more quality midfielders on our list, instead of giving Murphy, Smith, Schoenberg etc random games throughout the year.

Same as Pyke. Our overarching selection philosophy limits our productive ceiling. Not just the midfield, Smith too. We waste valuable opportunities on players that we know will bring us fringe type performances instead of trying to find out if there’s a difference maker toiling away in the 2s.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

There's a difference between booing Houston and Frampton, who were booed the last time we played them to the booing of Quaynor. He wasn't booed the last time we played them, why was he this time?? Pretty obvious isn't it. Anyone who was at the ground and booed Quaynor, who was the victim of a homophobic slur, is a disgrace. Rankine is the one who ****ed his season, not Quaynor. Would they also boo Robbie Young for being the victim of Tex's racial slur? I've never been more embarrassed to be a crows fan than last night. I am more devastated by the behavioir of our fans than the performance, which was also a disgrace. The '19th man' certainly did their bit to galvanise the Collingwood players last night.

I think that's a little bit extreme. They booed because the media driven circus told us that Moore and Quaynor were the ones behind Rankine being suspended. We can also disagree with what Rankine said though.

It's footy. Booing happens for an array of reasons.

 

[1990crow]

I hate being a crows fan. It's just continual disappointment over and over.

 

[Scorpus]

As soon as the club vehemently defended Rankine, this was an inevitable reaction from the crowd.

Us arguing that there were mitigating circumstances, that Rankine was targeted, the KO from Houston last year was referenced etc

The club tried to help their player. Defended him, pointed out that he was targeted by Collingwood players. Fans followed suit.

Shaved a week off the suspension but this was the cost. Going to have to ride it out, cop the negative reflection on the club and fans.

How much blame should be placed on the AFL for leaking our defense in what is supposed to be a confidential procedure?

It's not like the club explicitly told fans to target the players that targeted Rankine