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smy1305

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Jan 27, 2011
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Obviously lots of different thoughts on it all. Who knows I suppose. The AFL might Dusty bc the players could be broke by then.. :)

In a funny sort of way its a good social experiment which I'm not sure Australians are passing. People love to bs on about the millennial generation being self entitled - think there is a fair bit flowing through to the Boomer gen as well which doesn't like to be admitted by this demographic.

I just think Dusty that even if the virus is contained and therefore allowed to play that when you lay off 80-90% of your staff they aren't sitting around getting paid zilch and doing planning/organising for the commencement of a new season. This in itself will take time.
 

Dusty0004

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Obviously lots of different thoughts on it all. Who knows I suppose. The AFL might Dusty bc the players could be broke by then.. :)

In a funny sort of way its a good social experiment which I'm not sure Australians are passing. People love to bs on about the millennial generation being self entitled - think there is a fair bit flowing through to the Boomer gen as well which doesn't like to be admitted by this demographic.

I just think Dusty that even if the virus is contained and therefore allowed to play that when you lay off 80-90% of your staff they aren't sitting around getting paid zilch and doing planning/organising for the commencement of a new season. This in itself will take time.
it will happen quicker then you think. 4-6 week prep time and they’ll be back. These players are professional it’s their job. They will look after themselves and come back in shape. The theory work is done it will be match conditioning that will be lacking. The AFL and the clubs will get an indication a hell of a lot earlier then the rest of us and they will be engaging their assistants.
local footy leagues will take longer. It’s these guys jobs. It will be like the ban for you or I be lifted and return to work. We will hit the ground running straight away
 

Dusty0004

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The mental health impacts of the Coronavirus will have more of impact then the virus itself. That’s the sole reason I can’t see an extended lockdown. Once the curve flattens or rates of infections decrease they will lift a lot of the bans to get some sense of normality back even with some adjustments.
The AFL will definitely play apart in getting people back to feeling as though life is returning to the new normal.
 

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smy1305

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The mental health impacts of the Coronavirus will have more of impact then the virus itself. That’s the sole reason I can’t see an extended lockdown. Once the curve flattens or rates of infections decrease they will lift a lot of the bans to get some sense of normality back even with some adjustments.
The AFL will definitely play apart in getting people back to feeling as though life is returning to the new normal.
Yeah I disagree. The physical health side will take major precedence over mental health rightly or wrongly. Tbh I know if I lost one of my parents this would affect my mental health far greater than being involved in footy this year.
 

smy1305

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it will happen quicker then you think. 4-6 week prep time and they’ll be back. These players are professional it’s their job. They will look after themselves and come back in shape. The theory work is done it will be match conditioning that will be lacking. The AFL and the clubs will get an indication a hell of a lot earlier then the rest of us and they will be engaging their assistants.
local footy leagues will take longer. It’s these guys jobs. It will be like the ban for you or I be lifted and return to work. We will hit the ground running straight away
Not sure u can come back in any great shape if quarantined for 4 weeks. ( Monday the day I predict)
 

Dusty0004

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Yeah I disagree. The physical health side will take major precedence over mental health rightly or wrongly. Tbh I know if I lost one of my parents this would affect my mental health far greater than being involved in footy this year.
Not directly linking it too football. Linking it to the lockdown.
The lifting of the lockdown will eventually lead to football. You put anybody in lockdown for a stretch of time especially after losing their job or business the stress and strain on anybody.
 

smy1305

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Your talking about AFL players? They come back from 8 weeks leave which include international travel in great shape.
You honestly think they stop training through that period?? many hire their own personal trainers to stay in shape during this period.
In this case they wont be capable of getting outside - now I'm not sure how many live in houses vs units but I don't think the latter allows for any sort of S&C that will leave them in great nick for getting back into it. I think that from a political perspective there wont be any footy for a while, especially with the restrictions that will be in place by then, especially coming into the flu season. The whole vision of seeing 600+ blokes running around on a weekend smashing into each other reduces the mindset of the every day Joe to "this isn't too bad now" which is the exact opposite of what the government wants to happen.
I'm trying to be a realist about this tbh and not be overly pessimistic but to be fair this is far from anything any of us have ever seen before or hopefully will ever see again. The economic fallout is going to be extreme, many, many businesses will go to the wall, people who have never received social security in their life and yet worked for 40 years will be lining up looking for relief, house prices heading south, job prospects dim. Love to think you are correct Dusty and its back to a sense of normality in 4 weeks time but I just cant see it.
 

Dusty0004

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You honestly think they stop training through that period?? many hire their own personal trainers to stay in shape during this period.
In this case they wont be capable of getting outside - now I'm not sure how many live in houses vs units but I don't think the latter allows for any sort of S&C that will leave them in great nick for getting back into it. I think that from a political perspective there wont be any footy for a while, especially with the restrictions that will be in place by then, especially coming into the flu season. The whole vision of seeing 600+ blokes running around on a weekend smashing into each other reduces the mindset of the every day Joe to "this isn't too bad now" which is the exact opposite of what the government wants to happen.
I'm trying to be a realist about this tbh and not be overly pessimistic but to be fair this is far from anything any of us have ever seen before or hopefully will ever see again. The economic fallout is going to be extreme, many, many businesses will go to the wall, people who have never received social security in their life and yet worked for 40 years will be lining up looking for relief, house prices heading south, job prospects dim. Love to think you are correct Dusty and its back to a sense of normality in 4 weeks time but I just cant see it.
Don’t want to pessimistic yet that is one of the most pessimistic posts I’ve read.
Your allowed outside to exercise these boys would 100% be working their arses off in their own time.
The rate of new infections is decreasing slightly. Albeit with a small sample size. If it does continue a steady downward trajectory there is no reason the bans won’t be lifted in 4-6 weeks. The economy won’t allow for it to be locked down any longer
 

BlackGun1

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it will happen quicker then you think. 4-6 week prep time and they’ll be back. These players are professional it’s their job. They will look after themselves and come back in shape. The theory work is done it will be match conditioning that will be lacking. The AFL and the clubs will get an indication a hell of a lot earlier then the rest of us and they will be engaging their assistants.
local footy leagues will take longer. It’s these guys jobs. It will be like the ban for you or I be lifted and return to work. We will hit the ground running straight away
Don’t want to pessimistic yet that is one of the most pessimistic posts I’ve read.
Your allowed outside to exercise these boys would 100% be working their arses off in their own time.
The rate of new infections is decreasing slightly. Albeit with a small sample size. If it does continue a steady downward trajectory there is no reason the bans won’t be lifted in 4-6 weeks. The economy won’t allow for it to be locked down any longer
If this was all over in 4-6 weeks then Community footy would have a fighting chance and we wouldn’t be sitting around like sad sacks about this. EVERY indicator from politicians, health experts and the like suggests this is a 6 month thing. The infections being recorded right now are based on a 10-14 day lag time including the incubation period. 14 days ago life was as normal. We still have the raft of returning travellers to account for as well as the rising rate of community transmission which is the one thing government is dead scared about. Especially while we’re allowed out to vote, go shopping etc.

This isn’t even factoring in the fact the AFL are panicking like nobody’s business and pay cuts, staff layoffs are happening left right and centre. Do you think if they thought this was over in 4-6 weeks this would be happening? I know first hand of fringe level/younger AFL players remortgaging their homes and rushing to enrol in online Uni courses.

I’m sorry to be that guy Dusty, and I do hope your attitude comes more from clinging onto hope rather than underestimating this situation, but that is the attitude that will keep this virus circulating.
 

ablett

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Do you think if footy does resume that there may be some Coaching movements?
Like players , some Coaches may have lost their job and relocated to where they can get work?
I reckon a few players from down south will head back home if it’s cheaper to live there than the GC or Brizy.
Also allot players may decide to work Saturdays to make up for the lack of work they may experience if Corona has effected their job.
Very interesting and testing times.
It may Level the Comp out or weaken lower teams even more, who knows, time will tell.
 

Dusty0004

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If this was all over in 4-6 weeks then Community footy would have a fighting chance and we wouldn’t be sitting around like sad sacks about this. EVERY indicator from politicians, health experts and the like suggests this is a 6 month thing. The infections being recorded right now are based on a 10-14 day lag time including the incubation period. 14 days ago life was as normal. We still have the raft of returning travellers to account for as well as the rising rate of community transmission which is the one thing government is dead scared about. Especially while we’re allowed out to vote, go shopping etc.

This isn’t even factoring in the fact the AFL are panicking like nobody’s business and pay cuts, staff layoffs are happening left right and centre. Do you think if they thought this was over in 4-6 weeks this would be happening? I know first hand of fringe level/younger AFL players remortgaging their homes and rushing to enrol in online Uni courses.

I’m sorry to be that guy Dusty, and I do hope your attitude comes more from clinging onto hope rather than underestimating this situation, but that is the attitude that will keep this virus circulating.
Haha circulating the virus how. By following the statistics that were posted on the Aus Gov web page this morning? Have a look for yourself. I’d this an optimistic view 100% but it is better then many running around as if the sky is going to fall in.
So your saying low AFL income earners are trying to sure up a bit of cash? There is also word and talk of list sizes being cut by the AFL. This would also be a factor as to why they would be looking into securing their future.
Low income earners in the AFL are medium income earners in public life. They rely on their extra match payments and bonuses.
The sky isn’t falling
 

Dusty0004

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Do you think if footy does resume that there may be some Coaching movements?
Like players , some Coaches may have lost their job and relocated to where they can get work?
I reckon a few players from down south will head back home if it’s cheaper to live there than the GC or Brizy.
Also allot players may decide to work Saturdays to make up for the lack of work they may experience if Corona has effected their job.
Very interesting and testing times.
It may Level the Comp out or weaken lower teams even more, who knows, time will tell.
Locally?? Very possible
 

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BlackGun1

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Haha circulating the virus how. By following the statistics that were posted on the Aus Gov web page this morning? Have a look for yourself. I’d this an optimistic view 100% but it is better then many running around as if the sky is going to fall in.
So your saying low AFL income earners are trying to sure up a bit of cash? There is also word and talk of list sizes being cut by the AFL. This would also be a factor as to why they would be looking into securing their future.
Low income earners in the AFL are medium income earners in public life. They rely on their extra match payments and bonuses.
The sky isn’t falling
It appears you are indeed in the former, an optimistic attitude which I have no issue with. It’s the people who laugh this off and continue to flout distancing measures and put themselves at risk of increasing community transmission.

If we were in the middle of winter coming into summer I’d be much more optimistic. At the end of the day we don’t understand this virus well Enough to know if this will matter or not, but common sense tells me that any Tom Dick or Harry will be running to his nearest testing centre with a weather induced runny nose. Which in turn still puts the medical industry under pressure and they’ll be pushing for Lockdown until winter is over.

I could be totally wrong but this thing, while certainly not a flesh eating disease or the Black plague, seems to have the ferocity of transmission that has got some of our brightest minds very afraid.
 

outandabout

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I don't understand how some people think that everything is going to be ok in a few weeks.
People are dieing.
Business shutting down.
Infection rate climbing.
Unemployment is going through the roof.
All well and good to live in the hope we can get back to footy.
But the reality is we are no where near it.
Sorry to be the negative nelly but it is what it is.
 

smy1305

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Don’t want to pessimistic yet that is one of the most pessimistic posts I’ve read.
Your allowed outside to exercise these boys would 100% be working their arses off in their own time.
The rate of new infections is decreasing slightly. Albeit with a small sample size. If it does continue a steady downward trajectory there is no reason the bans won’t be lifted in 4-6 weeks. The economy won’t allow for it to be locked down any longer
It actually isn't that pessimistic Dusty - its realistic. Pessimistic would be the well founded idea that if lasts for 6-8 months I don't reckon season 2021 occurs in any real shape or form either. Why? Because there will not be enough money in the economy to keep clubs afloat. players will need to play for nothing (foreign concept in our sport) which will hurt numbers, the governing body will be hurt beyond belief financially and getting an elite comp back on the paddock will be their focus, players (as already mentioned) will be needing to work as a priority rather than as an aside on weekends. You keep on quoting stats that are based around this virus having taken stock in a very very short time period thus far. I seriously hope you are right and I (along with a few others here) are wrong. Happy to tip my lid to you if it is the case but seriously think you are putting head in the sand if you think there is any footy happening this year based on what I have read and seen.
 

Dusty0004

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It actually isn't that pessimistic Dusty - its realistic. Pessimistic would be the well founded idea that if lasts for 6-8 months I don't reckon season 2021 occurs in any real shape or form either. Why? Because there will not be enough money in the economy to keep clubs afloat. players will need to play for nothing (foreign concept in our sport) which will hurt numbers, the governing body will be hurt beyond belief financially and getting an elite comp back on the paddock will be their focus, players (as already mentioned) will be needing to work as a priority rather than as an aside on weekends. You keep on quoting stats that are based around this virus having taken stock in a very very short time period thus far. I seriously hope you are right and I (along with a few others here) are wrong. Happy to tip my lid to you if it is the case but seriously think you are putting head in the sand if you think there is any footy happening this year based on what I have read and seen.
Not pessimistic to say 2021 won’t go ahead 😂😂😂😂 fu** me that’s as pessimistic as it can get. Realistic is this season may not go ahead. Optimistic would be on the park by June/July

So players have to play for nothing boo hoo. Will test the loyalty of some blokes. Some clubs in div 2 and below aren’t paying players anyway
 

smy1305

Premiership Player
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Not pessimistic to say 2021 won’t go ahead 😂😂😂😂 fu** me that’s as pessimistic as it can get. Realistic is this season may not go ahead. Optimistic would be on the park by June/July

So players have to play for nothing boo hoo. Will test the loyalty of some blokes. Some clubs in div 2 and below aren’t paying players anyway
read it a bit more carefully mate. I said pessimistic would be saying 2021 doesn’t go ahead....
 

smy1305

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Jan 27, 2011
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Not pessimistic to say 2021 won’t go ahead 😂😂😂😂 fu** me that’s as pessimistic as it can get. Realistic is this season may not go ahead. Optimistic would be on the park by June/July

So players have to play for nothing boo hoo. Will test the loyalty of some blokes. Some clubs in div 2 and below aren’t paying players anyway
my point is many blokes won’t play if don’t get paid. U might say boo hoo. But we need a list of 55 players to guarantee 2 sides every week. Is y some clubs won’t participate in ‘21.
I would suggest most clubs in div 2 are paying something even if it’s just cash awards.
 

outandabout

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The 2021 season is going to be different to anything we've seen before.
How it plays out depends on the numbers and how financial clubs are.
Will we see a one team Saturday comp as well as a Friday nite comp.
Will we see just a division one and division two comp only.
Will we see aflq streamline their operations and reduce costs to clubs.
Will we see the points system in the bin.
In tough times all you can count on is loyalty.
So when this is over the ones who stay are more important to a club than any premiership cup.
Let's hope we get playing for the love of the game.
Not the love of the dollar.
 

FootyFanatic23

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Nov 15, 2018
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Mate if you belive China they are declaring victory over the virus.
All while wearing face marks and streets are empty.
Before it hits the news all schools in London will close this Friday for indefinite period.
So to say the worst is over in other countries is just strait up bullshit.
Just glad Australia acted as quick as they did.
I tend to belive the scientists over journalists.
Call me sceptical but I've never seen a reporter cure anything.
Haha Australia haven’t acted quickly at all. We are locking shit bit by bit. NZ have less numbers and are in full lockdown with military patrolling the streets
 

Dusty0004

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my point is many blokes won’t play if don’t get paid. U might say boo hoo. But we need a list of 55 players to guarantee 2 sides every week. Is y some clubs won’t participate in ‘21.
I would suggest most clubs in div 2 are paying something even if it’s just cash awards.
Blokes will play they just may play for a club where their mates are. Will test a lot of loyalty in blokes
 

BlackGun1

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I do think its important that if there is a time that comes at some stage this year (would have to be before September you'd think) where it's somehow safe to resume contact sport activities (which you all know I think is highly unlikely), AFLQ needs to put some sort of mini season together to ensure momentum and rebuilding is happening towards 2021 season. I think you'd find there would be many blokes, especially the older demographic, would be shying away from footy for fear of injury after a year of doing nothing.
 

ablett

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Let’s be honest, no one should be getting paid at local level below state comps like the old days when you played for the jumper , mates and success.
The main thing killing clubs is expenses and player payments.
If players won’t play if they don’t get paid then they are their for the wrong reasons, if you want more money then work overtime or get a better paying job, don’t rape clubs for it.
I’m sure if clubs didn’t have to pay players then they wouldn’t need to change rego fees etc...
 

outandabout

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Let’s be honest, no one should be getting paid at local level below state comps like the old days when you played for the jumper , mates and success.
The main thing killing clubs is expenses and player payments.
If players won’t play if they don’t get paid then they are their for the wrong reasons, if you want more money then work overtime or get a better paying job, don’t rape clubs for it.
I’m sure if clubs didn’t have to pay players then they wouldn’t need to change rego fees etc...
Have to agree with that.
If you think your worth money at this level go and try qafl and see what your really worth.
Just don't think blokes at this level are worth more than free rego.
Have a few good game awards and if your good enough you will get extra coin.
That way everyone is eligible for a few extra bucks.
Not just a couple in the team.
 

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