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Except I'm pretty sure it wasn't paid as deliberate. The umpire guessed. I don't like it when umpires guess.
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Except I'm pretty sure it wasn't paid as deliberate. The umpire guessed. I don't like it when umpires guess.
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Yeah. I get it was the wrong actual to-the-rules call. But there's situations where they'll pay a free and it was a free, they just call one that isn't necessarily the most correct free.
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******* lol
No way mate - it would become an absolute circus - some coaches wouldnt know where to draw the line
Bob Fulton a very high profile player and then coach of Manly in the NRL and the Australian side .
When he was coaching Manly one day - after the game he was asked by the media - what did you think of the referee - and Fulton replied - " I hope he gets run over by a cement truck "
Consistent theme this year in AFL - supporters of the losing team just blame the umps - never the players wernt good enough - its just the umps fault - absolute bulldust
Dunn free just before 1/4 time - Crap decision
Greenwood HTB - pretty clear free
Sidebottom HTB - Haven't seen a replay, looked gone at the game but did he handball it?
Hunt non call - Yeah probably a bit stiff
Greenwood HTB - pretty clear free
Sidebottom HTB - Haven't seen a replay, looked gone at the game but did he handball it?
Hunt non call - Yeah probably a bit stiff
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I'm pretty sure the Hunt no being called for holding the ball happened just after Nate Jones smashed the ump on his arse, not even kidding. I need to see a replay but I'm certain it was that moment of play and it was the umpire closest to the play, makes it even funnier
No. It's not just supporters of losing teams. Many, many neutrals are getting put off too.
Too many good games have been affected by some inconsistent umpiring decisions in the last 5 minutes of matches. That's the consistent theme!
Can't they just put the whistle away? Or at least not pay frees that weren't there for the rest of the 115 mins?
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Just this year? Happened since the beginning of football
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Eddie seems to be allowed to whenever he commentates a non-Vic team playing a Victorian team. Those blind umpires apparently miss a free kick against the non-Vics in every contest.
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Pies fans conplaining about taggers getting away with stuff. How much did Macaffer get away with over the past couple of years?
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Meh, thought most of the decisions were there. The free kick count was fairly even wasn't it anyway? Melbourne won it but it wasn't 2 to 1 or anything like that. From memory it was 24-18.
Those frees in the last few minutes were ridiculous - Sidebottom and Greenwood wrongfully pinged and completely killed everything.
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You're all right. Umpiring was atrocious. Pies runner got in the way numerous times, impacted play at least twice, and nothing was done
Probably need a thorough investigation. Strip all the pies points.
Probably need a thorough investigation. Strip all the pies points.
Probably the most blatant HTB decision you could ever see. They'll include it in the next video sent to the clubs it was that clear cut.
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Yeah you're right they missed a HTB when Trelol dropped the ball on the wing
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Greenwood dived on it and pulled it in underneath. Onus is then on him to get it out. Thought a good decision. Greenwood's intention was to kill the ball. What a horrible spectacle our game would be if all players tried to dive on the ball and kill it.
The result of the Sidebottom free - which was there. Really made a huge impact, that one. Turned a boundary throw in 40m out in to an uncontested mark with men lining up in the corridor.
The Greenwood free - also there - was 10 seconds after Hibberd was tackled without the ball after handballing out in front. Anyone want to tell me that much jumper grab isn't a free?
If the umps were rigging the game with inconsistent holding the ball calls then how are all 3 of these play on? All 3 are far more blatant examples of taking on tackles are illegally disposing the ball than the Hunt one.
The Greenwood free - also there - was 10 seconds after Hibberd was tackled without the ball after handballing out in front. Anyone want to tell me that much jumper grab isn't a free?
If the umps were rigging the game with inconsistent holding the ball calls then how are all 3 of these play on? All 3 are far more blatant examples of taking on tackles are illegally disposing the ball than the Hunt one.
Want to know why Melbourne had free kicks inside 50 paid for holding? It's because a number of free like this blatant tackle off the ball were called play on. Pies held for each other to intercept mark all day. Live by it, die by it.
WRONG.
Commentators might not know but umpires are crystal clear on this one. Probably one of the only rules they are clear on.
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Finally the relevant section's on YouTube. Greenwood was already on the ground (therefore didn't 'dive on it') and didn't 'pull it underneath' at all- he had it in his arms and rose to his knees before being tackled, then it got pinned to his stomach.
The rule states: "Where a player elects to dive on or drag the football into or underneath his body he must successfully knock the ball clear..." The laws of the game example video shows a player dive from his feet on top of the ball, then get tackled. This is different in all relevant aspects.
Given you argue Greenwood's intention was to 'kill the ball', I think you might be going off a foggy recollection- he clearly gets on to his knees in order to try and handball it to a teammate.
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If there's no prior opportunity, the player simply needs to make a genuine attempt, that's it. I wish fans would get that. So videos 1 and 3 are fine. Video 2 is iffy, but of course you have to ignore the high tackle as well.
Video 2 is plenty of prior, surely you can't argue that. Bit of high tackle but Howe's ducking and spinning to evade, they aren't paying those high any more.
Video 1 I'm happy to have called play on due to no prior opportunity, but it's not really a genuine attempt at a handball, it's a throw.
Video 3 - I would've thought Treloar has had prior by the time he spins and has an arm free. Attempts a kick and clean misses. Again, ok with that no paid but it's a balance to the Hunt one not been paid. One's a kick, one's a handball.
Oh come on, it's right there in the video.
On his knees. Left arm reaches out. Scoops the ball under his elbow. Never gets to his feet. Ball never leaves his possession.
You're saying because he was on his knees not all fours and because the ball was under his arm and shoulder it shouldn't be holding the ball?
There's a clear motion in which he drags the ball underneath part of his body and he never successfully knocks it away from his body.
