Discussion Question and Answer Thread

[just_kick_it]

The guy who owns Madison Square Gardens owns the Knicks.
They also own the New York Rangers.
I say "the guy", there's one guy who runs the company and is a major shareholder, but it's a publicly listed company.
If you wanted to own a share of the Knicks (and Rangers) you could buy shares in MSG.
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/asp/SummaryQuote.asp?symbol=MSG&selected=MSG

Sorry my bad. He's part owner of the NJ Nets.

 

[Southside]

Sorry my bad. He's part owner of the NJ Nets.

Don't they have plans to move the Nets to Brooklyn?

 

[just_kick_it]

Yeh when I actually looked on Wiki to see which team Jay-Z owned/part owned, there was little bit there about his intention to move the Nets to Brooklyn, but I dont know how much truth there is behind it or if it is just rumour material.

 

[Gibbsy]

Heard the same thing, multiple times

 

[just_kick_it]

How much truth do think's behind it, Gibbsy??

 

[Mr Eagle]

They're moving.

 

[just_kick_it]

Ahhk. I only really half follow the NBA but moving and re-naming a team is interesting in any sport.

 

[Omegaville]

Happens way too often in basketball, and often it makes a team name meaningless.

The Nets were originally the New York Nets, named after the NY Jets and NY Mets. A few years later they moved to New Jersey. At least the name isn't meaningless.

Vancouver has a lot of grizzly bears, so the name Grizzlies was appropriate. Seems less appropriate now they're in Memphis.

New Orleans naturally would have a team called the Jazz. It's in the blood. Uprooting them and taking them to Mormon stronghold Utah, with no jazz music, makes the Utah Jazz sound totally wrong.

Minneapolis is on a great lake, so calling them the Lakers makes sense. There aren't any such lakes in Los Angeles.

Similarly LA isn't known for a shipping culture, and clipper ships, unlike San Diego. But, the Clippers now play in LA.

Houston is in oil-rich Texas, and it was the home of the Oilers, until they moved to Tennessee.

And back home... South Melbourne played beside a lake which was home to many swans. Those swans didn't move up to Sydney with the team...

 

[just_kick_it]

Yeh still the only real change to the clubs in a league that Ive understood and experienced is the GC and to a certain extent the Seatle Supersonics/Oaklahoma City Thunder story.

I was only four when the whole Fitzroy story went down and five when Port played their first AFL game, therefore to young to understand any of this.

 

[Mero]

Happens way too often in basketball, and often it makes a team name meaningless.

The Nets were originally the New York Nets, named after the NY Jets and NY Mets. A few years later they moved to New Jersey. At least the name isn't meaningless.

Vancouver has a lot of grizzly bears, so the name Grizzlies was appropriate. Seems less appropriate now they're in Memphis.

New Orleans naturally would have a team called the Jazz. It's in the blood. Uprooting them and taking them to Mormon stronghold Utah, with no jazz music, makes the Utah Jazz sound totally wrong.

Minneapolis is on a great lake, so calling them the Lakers makes sense. There aren't any such lakes in Los Angeles.

Similarly LA isn't known for a shipping culture, and clipper ships, unlike San Diego. But, the Clippers now play in LA.

Houston is in oil-rich Texas, and it was the home of the Oilers, until they moved to Tennessee.

And back home... South Melbourne played beside a lake which was home to many swans. Those swans didn't move up to Sydney with the team...

Except they were first called the Swans because they had so many imported West Australians in their team in the early 30s.

 

[Omegaville]

Ah yeah, my mistake, I remember this got discussed on BF recently.

But yeah, I've never understood how (apart from the love of GREEN) the Americans can just uproot a team from its home town and move it somewhere else - and have been doing so for 50-60 years. There's no real sense of tradition and history in their sports, and a lot of short-term startups and failures. Not just teams, but also LEAGUES have risen and fallen in brief periods.

Makes us value our league just a little bit more when you compare it.

 

[Smeagle]

The old NSL was a bit like that - a mess.

 

[just_kick_it]

What years did Puma use this logo on the AFL jumpers that they manufacture, more specifically WCE.

 

[Ochre]

i believe 2007 was the last year it was used

 

[Willo #6]

Right you are.

 

[just_kick_it]

Yeh thats what I thought afterwards because thats when Puma changed their collar aswell.

 

[Mr Eagle]

And yet their use of the logo wasn't consistent before the collar change...

 

[just_kick_it]

Ahh it wasnt either.

 

[Ochre]

i assume Mr E has posted a pic, but as im capped i cant see it

can someone explain

 

[Willo #6]

It is a picture of two heritage guernseys (from '07 I think). The two guernseys are West Coast's WA state jumper and Brisbane's Fitzroy jumper. The WCE one features the puma logo with writing but Brisbane's features just the puma.

 

[Gibbsy]

Yep spot on. The only time the Puma logo featured on West Coast's guernseys without the wordmark is on the infamous 2000-02 Ochre guernsey, and on all three current guernseys from 2008 onwards.

 

[Ochre]

The only time the Puma logo featured on West Coast's guernseys without the wordmark is on the infamous 2000-02 Ochre guernsey, and on all three current guernseys from 2008 onwards.

spelt famous wrong

 

[Omegaville]

spelt famous wrong

notsureifserious.jpg

 

[Willo #6]

I thought it was rather obvious that he was joking

 

[Omegaville]

@Willo notsureifserious.jpg
Seriously dude, didn't you see the irony in my post?