Discussion Question and Answer Thread

[Silent Alarm]

Sorry man, a lot of it was from a pretty confidential source on the fourfourtwo forums. The posts saying "I've got images" were basically deleted 10 minutes after posting though. I think it was from someone who helps in the printing of many clubs polos, a lot of smaller Australian companies (KooGa, X-Blades) use the one place as the main station. However, a few other teams kits (eg, Victory with Adidas) were included in prototype stages... It all ties in somewhere, or so i'm told.

It's been common knowledge about Victory's away kit and the Brisbane change to black. Just look at the Roar Womens strips.

I think the Glory rumours are complete bullshit though. I think the guy just took advantage of his position...

 

[Smeagle]

I don't like the sounds of any of that

Can you enlighten us on the respective apparel sponsors?

(Glory and Kappa - )

 

[Silent Alarm]

Melbourne Victory are with Adidas. This has been known for some time.

Jets was with KooGa. Tinkler liked the idea of Newcastle being a red, blue and KooGa city.

The Roar meanwhile seem to conform to a Nike template, one of the new ones for 11/12.

Pretty heavy rumours that the Glory have signed with Mizuno, and a confirmed boot (possible kit) deal with X-Blades.

 

[Smeagle]

Thanks mate.
I read up a bit more about the Glory, sounds like it could be the other way round (Xblades with the shirts, Mizuno with the boots).
http://www.xblades.co.nz/products-page/partnership-and-sponsorship/perth-glory-fc/
Oh well, can't seeing myself buying any of their rubbish.

 

[Gibbsy]

Interesting. Love adidas and will be intrigued to see how this fluoro green number that you mention will look out on the pitch. Surprised that the Roar haven't moved to maroon as it seems that's what the fans wanted. Would like to see the Fury darken their shades of green a litte but that's just personal preference.

Now guys - any more ideas for the Jersey Guide? I'm really keen to get it underway but I was speaking to Smeags recently about some hurdles we may face, e.g. getting the correct accurate colours, etc.

 

[Silent Alarm]

@Smeagle: http://mizuno.com.au/sports/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=3&Itemid=6. The only reason I say X-Blades are doing the boots is because they've signed similar deals with Richmond and some NRL clubs, as you can see. I'd love Mizuno to make the shirts though. These look great.

@Gibbsyspin. I can't see the Fury playing next year. They haven't negotiated with anyone yet**. But I certainly agree. A Werder Bremen like bottle green + white sleeved shirt would look great.

**Something worth saying about A-League manufacturers is that the FFA asks for $2000 from a company, to let them negotiate with a club.

 

[23Legend]

How do you create polls?

 

[TheDoctor11]

Does anyone have a template for teeth similar to this away design by Josh Extreme? Hoping to use a similar design for my fantasy league.

 

[Mr Eagle]

How do you create polls?

Start a new thread, look down the bottom of the page under 'Additional Options'.

 

[23Legend]

Anyone know how to make decent logos on paint, I have tried myself but most of mine are crap.

 

[Mr Eagle]

Anyone know how to make decent logos on paint, I have tried myself but most of mine are crap.

Always start with pencil and paper.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I was having a kick with my dad yesterday, and as I looked down at my Sherrin, a question popped into my head:

Why do state leagues and regional leagues almost always use a yellow ball?

 

[cammania]

cos you live in WA and is a bit backward there

 

[Silent Alarm]

Admittedly, this is the backwater state.

 

[Omegaville]

And, once upon a time - up until 1971 - the old VFL Night Series used white footies, in particular down at the Lake Oval.

 

[justlookingaround]

Re: Random Chat Thread

Hey I have a question... is this logo for Geelong like a staff logo or like a secondary logo

I've never found out what is was for... haha

 

[23Legend]

Re: Random Chat Thread

Hey I have a question... is this logo for Geelong like a staff logo or like a secondary logo

I've never found out what is was for... haha

That is their "On field identity logo" so it features on all of the cats training shirts and, i think their, home jumper.

 

[Mero]

I was having a kick with my dad yesterday, and as I looked down at my Sherrin, a question popped into my head:

Why do state leagues and regional leagues almost always use a yellow ball?

I believe it has something to do with this.
When they made footys, they produced a run of a certain ammount.
Be that 10,000, 5,000 I don't actually know, though my understanding is they used to make as many Red footys as they did Yellow footys.
Some went for sale, where the Red ones outsold the yellow ones 3 to 1.
So the manufacturers had more Yellow ones than they do Red ones.
So they offered the Yellow ones to local clubs & comps cheaper than the Red ones because they didn't want to lose money on them.
After a while everyone got used to using Yellow footys and that's what they end up using.

 

[Gibbsy]

Here's an interesting one, although not really footy jumper related. When did the league and the clubs first have their own official websites? I have a feeling there would probably have been fan-made sites before the advent of official websites but I'm interested as to when the official ones were first started up.

I remember I once had a record from 2000 which talked about the AFL online but a lot of my useless records went out with the renovations a couple of years ago (don't worry, still kept all the good ones )

What I do know is that BigPond starting administering all the sites from 2002 onwards, the same year that Channel 7 lost the TV rights. A coincidence or something more?

 

[Mero]

Here's an interesting one, although not really footy jumper related. When did the league and the clubs first have their own official websites? I have a feeling there would probably have been fan-made sites before the advent of official websites but I'm interested as to when the official ones were first started up.

I remember I once had a record from 2000 which talked about the AFL online but a lot of my useless records went out with the renovations a couple of years ago (don't worry, still kept all the good ones )

What I do know is that BigPond starting administering all the sites from 2002 onwards, the same year that Channel 7 lost the TV rights. A coincidence or something more?

One of the first I remember was a bloke named Dazza.
He had a site which was a series of links to other sites, such as The Age footy section in 1996.
In about 1997 he got the Cease & Desist letter from the AFL saying their was the only site allowed to show AFL Intellectual Property.
The original host was a company called cadability.
It was cadability.com.au/afl and that was the official site.
By the 1998 season the AFL had their own domain and website.
It was basically a series of links to Herald Sun articles, with pages for each of the clubs.
It was a disaster, and not only ran really slowly, but had barely anything on it. Most of the speed issue was to do with traffic.

The first team to have one was Essendon, and the kid that developed at his own home ended up getting the rights to do the whole site.
This is the last it looked like before he started working at Essendon in 1997.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~brad/bombers.htm

 

[Omegaville]

Back in 1995-96, the best footy site for an AFL club was called Mag'Net - a Collingwood site. There were sites for Essendon and Melbourne but not much else, according to Yahoo back then. Back then, Yahoo was a directory - no chat, email, groups, Channel 7 etc. - and it was most people's home page. No Google back then either (AltaVista anyone?).

I remember Cadability and their AFL site... I had some graphics from it for many years: the 16 club logos (Brisbane Bears and Fitzroy among them), AFL Centenary logo, Spit and Chips from Interfooty (man this WAS 1995). Because any kind of graphic of anything AFL related was RARE. (Scanners back then cost about $500.) I used to trawl the Web when I had free time at uni... much faster and cheaper than dialup access at home. Netscape 1.2 was the latest browser back then.

 

[Sepul]

I remember seeing the afl.com.au link on one of those kids footy shows (possibly Interfooty as Omega mentioned, that rings a bell), because I was stoked I remembered the whole thing with the http://www. beginning. Back when custom domain names weren't used that much - most sites were either on GeoCities, Angelfire or Tripod!

 

[Silent Alarm]

My nanna had this boyfriend a few years ago. When my parents would be working or were doing something, i'd sometimes get picked up by her. We'd always go to this dudes house, and I hated it. The only cool thing was that he had all these really old WAFL records. As a six year old, I'd flip through them for hours.

But - a few of the clubs had two shields. I remember every club having a logo that looked a lot like the above East Fremantle one. Could anyone expand upon this?

Also, when did the Sharks stop using the 'Old Easts' moniker? It sounds classy. Did the club also adopt the 'Sharks' motif during the 'East Fremantle' rebranding?

When did the 'Cardinals' name exist for West Perth? Was this a short term thing, or the original name?

Also, could anyone point me in the way of some old WAFL logo designs? The current one sh*ts me.

 

[Omegaville]

My understanding is that "Old Easts" came about when East Perth joined the comp... as there were now two Easts, East Freo were the original or "Old" one. That pic is from 1982, but I know for sure that by 1985/86 they were the Sharks as I remember them playing in the night series against Richmond.

Ah - of course - Full Points Footy has the answer.
http://fullpointsfooty.net/east_fremantle_1.htm
The Shark mascot was adopted in 1983.

Cardinals: according to http://fullpointsfooty.net/west_perth_(3).htm the switch to Falcons came about in 1993, followed by a relocation from Leederville to Joondalup in 1994. Was there perhaps a local "Joondalup Falcons" club which West Perth aligned with?
Cardinals was the original 19th century nickname for the club, though, after "Victorians" became "West Perth".

 

[Sepul]

Possibly with the change of base, they decided that Cardinals was pretty wussy?