question for football supporters....
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Kaz
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Interesting one.
Maybe we can at a future date retrospectively remove premierships....we've already awarded Brownlows in that way.
Wouldn't it be lovely......come to think of it both Essendon and Melbourne shouldn't have played off for the premiership last season if that was the case!!!!!
Maybe we can at a future date retrospectively remove premierships....we've already awarded Brownlows in that way.
Wouldn't it be lovely......come to think of it both Essendon and Melbourne shouldn't have played off for the premiership last season if that was the case!!!!!
well that would leave four teams in the competition that existed in 92-93
no carlton
nth melb
collingwood
melbourne
etc
get off the essendon vendetta, there is more than one guilty party here
we did our crime, and payed the price
no carlton
nth melb
collingwood
melbourne
etc
get off the essendon vendetta, there is more than one guilty party here
we did our crime, and payed the price
- Dec 5, 2000
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They paid the required penalty. Leave it alone.
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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.
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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.
- Aug 6, 2000
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- GB Packers, STL Cards, PHI Flyers
It's never right, but what else can you do, short of forfeiting every match played?
Should every AFL match played from 1993-98 involving those eight or ten clubs be completely nulled and voided?
Should every AFL match played from 1993-98 involving those eight or ten clubs be completely nulled and voided?
The invisible mullet
Premium Gold
I think the correct approach is to penalise clubs via the draft but they should be harsher for clubs that are repeat offenders - that is exclude them wholly from consecutive drafts (including rookie drafts).
Does that mean North Melbourne can't compete either because they cheated?
Didn't half the NRL clubs get caught over the salary cap? Hell, why not wipe out all of them too.
Didn't half the NRL clubs get caught over the salary cap? Hell, why not wipe out all of them too.
- Jul 6, 2000
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- Richmond
Yes they should. That is a very harsh penalty. Perhaps premiership points could be taken away in the next few years but not a premiership.
I suppose every time a player gives away a free kick, his team should be kicked out of the comp, because they cheated the rules of the game.
If you cop a penalty, then you have been punished and you go back to square one. Essendon were severely punished, unlike some clubs.
If you cop a penalty, then you have been punished and you go back to square one. Essendon were severely punished, unlike some clubs.
Tiger_Of_Old
THE_GUN:"Why don't you use your reg acc"7/9/24
has been over this ground plenty of times banning clubs form the draft= x amount of youngsters not getting a go in the afl due to the guilty club or clubs unable to pick any up.
the only way is to fine the clubs who are guilty and maybe have the power to ban those involved at board level.
cheers!
the only way is to fine the clubs who are guilty and maybe have the power to ban those involved at board level.
cheers!
Asgardian
Bigfooty Jedi
Tiger of Old has made a good point, banning the club officials involved from holding any club, or AFL, position would be a good additional penalty.
I would make the offending club able to select players at the National Draft, only after every other club has finished having picks
Then to these add fines
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Chris
I would make the offending club able to select players at the National Draft, only after every other club has finished having picks
Then to these add fines
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Chris
they did something wrong and they paid off but taking drugs to make your athletic preformance better is not exactly the same as paying players too much is it?
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you might not like it... but i really don't care!
GO THE MIGHTY DEMONS!!!
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you might not like it... but i really don't care!
GO THE MIGHTY DEMONS!!!
Bloodstained Angel
Premiership Player
Untill the AFL starts to get serious about salary cap breaches you are going to find that more and more clubs are going to breach because it is simply too tempting, the rewards are huge and the penalties are laughable.
At the moment there is nothing to stop Essendon, Carlton and anybody else just going along their merry way paying their players what they like.
The penalties are a joke and are just no deterrent at all.
Pathetic monetary fines and and losing draft picks are a joke, they just make the whole breaching business a more of a sport than a serious breaking of the law. Of course Essendon and Carlton will continue to breach - thats the way you win premierships stupid !
Salary cap breachers should have the book thrown at them I reckon, a tougher penalty will mean a bigger deterrent.
For starters how about these :
- Don't just take away draft picks, bnan the club from participating in the draw alltogether.
- Make the monetary fine so big it REALLY hurts (like the club has to raise a loan to pay it)
- All officials responsible for the break should be banned from holding an AFL office for life.
At the moment, with penalties little more than a slap on the wrist, the Essendons and Carltons of this world are laughing all the way to the trophy room - seriously.
Would you go over the salary cap to secure a player who could be the difference bewteen winning a flag and not even making the finals ? - of course you would, especially as the penalties for breaching are so pathetic.
It also creates a climate where the salary cap is not taken seriously. Dan24 is so jaded in his view of this that he likens breaching the salary cap to conceding a free kick !
We must stamp out this cancer of cynical indifference to the salary cap. The salary cap is what makes our game strong !
cheers
At the moment there is nothing to stop Essendon, Carlton and anybody else just going along their merry way paying their players what they like.
The penalties are a joke and are just no deterrent at all.
Pathetic monetary fines and and losing draft picks are a joke, they just make the whole breaching business a more of a sport than a serious breaking of the law. Of course Essendon and Carlton will continue to breach - thats the way you win premierships stupid !
Salary cap breachers should have the book thrown at them I reckon, a tougher penalty will mean a bigger deterrent.
For starters how about these :
- Don't just take away draft picks, bnan the club from participating in the draw alltogether.
- Make the monetary fine so big it REALLY hurts (like the club has to raise a loan to pay it)
- All officials responsible for the break should be banned from holding an AFL office for life.
At the moment, with penalties little more than a slap on the wrist, the Essendons and Carltons of this world are laughing all the way to the trophy room - seriously.
Would you go over the salary cap to secure a player who could be the difference bewteen winning a flag and not even making the finals ? - of course you would, especially as the penalties for breaching are so pathetic.
It also creates a climate where the salary cap is not taken seriously. Dan24 is so jaded in his view of this that he likens breaching the salary cap to conceding a free kick !
We must stamp out this cancer of cynical indifference to the salary cap. The salary cap is what makes our game strong !
cheers
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