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[swans12]

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[Bigdon]

listen mate ur fellow essendon supporters are all ******s, better to be on drugs then a ******, ur just jealous because we have MORE MONEY than u and u bloody well know it, we have athe third Richest MAN IN THE XCOUNTRY BACKING US AND WE JUST LURED COLLINGWOODS BIG MAN AWAY FROM THEIR MONEY MAKING OPERATIONS,when does ur president pull something like that off, also u alsways have a comeback, it goes something like this, but, but, but but we had an injury sheedy was robbed or wasnt feeling well, get over urself and focus on ur stupid team rather than come here to try and make urself feel better by raising stupid theories thasts why i punch on with essendon supporters at games and i enjoy it, also u need another ten years to fully heal and get over what we did to u in 1999 keep writing comments because i will keep throwing back at u pal, and yeah u finally won it in 2000 only to finally crumble when a real challenge was posed in 2001, u started this deliberatley to piss us carlton supporters off, but i thrive on throwing mud at essendon supporters because u r the biggest sooks the game has ever seen we have 5 bad years and we cop it on the chin u have 1 bad season and ur all making excuses and stating that u will be back better this year when 2006 hadnt even finished go and get stuffed u mopron u havent a clue, go on write another remark i got unlimited remarks in store for u

lol are u serious, carlton are rich?? how old are you 12 13, your in debt!!
how can you be in debt by millions and get handouts from the afl yet have more money then us, lol

 

[hulld]

pratt only came back because a couple of carlton greats got on their hands and knees and begged him to help out.

i still don't see where carlton's improvement is going to come from???

french is/was better than ackland and cloke
gibbs, who will be a superstar, is struggling with the pace of the game at the moment
your irish full back is a joke. he feels like he has cured cancer whenever he gets a spoil.
fev won't be able to do any better than he did last year.
waite won't be any better at CHB than whitnall was last season.
kennedy's nickname should be "butterfingers"

i do however believe carlton will be a strong team in 2 or 3 years. but to say there will be a significant improvement from 2 wooden spoons after winning the NAB cup is a bit over the top isn't it???

don't forget who you played in the NAB cup.
Essendon - according to you guys we are crap
Hawks - nothing more than a bunch of kids at the moment
Roos - wooden spooners for sure
Brisbane - a one man team who couldn't beat you when their star jon brown dominated in his first hitout for the season

not to mention you guys had your best 22 on the park in every match.

maybe you guys should give it a couple of years before saying you are finals contenders

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

Fellow Carlton supporters.......

reading through this thread has made me realise one thing only:-


Essendon and co are all starting to get scared. With reason.

Let them be that way.

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

LMAO! You said it right here....

pratt only came back because a couple of carlton greats got on their hands and knees and begged him to help out.

i still don't see where carlton's improvement is going to come from???

french is/was better than ackland and cloke
gibbs, who will be a superstar, is struggling with the pace of the game at the moment
your irish full back is a joke. he feels like he has cured cancer whenever he gets a spoil.
fev won't be able to do any better than he did last year.
waite won't be any better at CHB than whitnall was last season.
kennedy's nickname should be "butterfingers"

i do however believe carlton will be a strong team in 2 or 3 years. but to say there will be a significant improvement from 2 wooden spoons after winning the NAB cup is a bit over the top isn't it???

don't forget who you played in the NAB cup.
Essendon - according to you guys we are crap
Hawks - nothing more than a bunch of kids at the moment
Roos - wooden spooners for sure
Brisbane - a one man team who couldn't beat you when their star jon brown dominated in his first hitout for the season

not to mention you guys had your best 22 on the park in every match.

maybe you guys should give it a couple of years before saying you are finals contenders

That's the only thing i read in his thread, the fact that even Essendon supporters are labelling their team as crap

 

[hulld]

LMAO! You said it right here....



That's the only thing i read in his thread, the fact that even Essendon supporters are labelling their team as crap

can't you read mate???
i said "according to you guys"

don't you have a rebuttal for the rest of the post???

 

[SurreyBlue]

Round 3 can't come around quick enough, just like pre-season game when you where going to beat us oh so easily. Your in for a great year scums, enjoy!

 

[hulld]

right back at ya mate

 

[Blues_Man]

your irish full back is a joke. he feels like he has cured cancer whenever he gets a spoil.

quick get Ramanaskus back into your side and play him on Setanta

 

[Barry Zuckercorn]

u carlton supporters are on drugs hey, i give it to round 5 when u are 0-5 and you wil be calling for everyones head

Isnt the Essendon game round 3??

 

[blues4flag]

u carlton supporters are on drugs hey, i give it to round 5 when u are 0-5 and you wil be calling for everyones head

Has this tool been banned yet or what? If you didn't realize mate, Essendon weren't much better last year.

 

[Bluebear]

right back at ya mate

you need to change you're Signature

"Courtney Dempsey is under the gun"

He was very unlucky vs Thornton in that NAB cup game rolleyes: ), I'm sure he's a much better player than that.
Maybe he just needs 3-4 years in the two's to get some form and confidence.

 

[borissey]

hulld said:
french is/was better than ackland and cloke
gibbs, who will be a superstar, is struggling with the pace of the game at the moment
your irish full back is a joke. he feels like he has cured cancer whenever he gets a spoil.
fev won't be able to do any better than he did last year.
waite won't be any better at CHB than whitnall was last season.
kennedy's nickname should be "butterfingers"

I disagree with all of that except for the fev bit. Frenchy was a tryer but could not get the ball around the ground. We will be able to add some around the ground presence plus 1 or 2 goals a week.

Gibbs isnt struggling at all. He gets 30 minutes on the field?

The Irish full back beats opponents. His opponents dont get goals. While you're glossing over how many goals Fletcher's opponents get by talking about defensive 50's, setanta is stopping goal flow. his job. Fletcher should try it some time.

Fev will hopefully be somwhere near the same but he will get more support up forward in Whitnall and a fit Fish.

Kennedy is a young up & comer who will split packs and win games.

Over and above your naive little entry into the football world, we have real midfield depth now with the 3 mature mids in Houlihan, Stevo and Scotland, now accompanied by Gibbs, Murphy, Carrazzo, Simpson, Bentick (as extractor), Blackwell, Russell (tagger who took Stanton out of the game - no mean feat) and Lappin / Kouta / Walker as occasional throw-ins.

We are bigger, stronger, faster and better. Our list has been turned over while you sit there claiming the high ground for having 6 good draftpicks in 2006 / 07 whilst you let the oldies reclaim the rest of your list. What other team is going into a year with 6 30+'s in Camporeale, Hird, Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael? Add the 2 ineffective Johnsons and your list is woefully imbalanced for skill v future v years left.

 

[Merv]

hulld said:
french is/was better than ackland and cloke
gibbs, who will be a superstar, is struggling with the pace of the game at the moment
your irish full back is a joke. he feels like he has cured cancer whenever he gets a spoil.
fev won't be able to do any better than he did last year.
waite won't be any better at CHB than whitnall was last season.
kennedy's nickname should be "butterfingers"

I disagree with all of that except for the fev bit. Frenchy was a tryer but could not get the ball around the ground. We will be able to add some around the ground presence plus 1 or 2 goals a week.

Gibbs isnt struggling at all. He gets 30 minutes on the field?

The Irish full back beats opponents. His opponents dont get goals. While you're glossing over how many goals Fletcher's opponents get by talking about defensive 50's, setanta is stopping goal flow. his job. Fletcher should try it some time.

Fev will hopefully be somwhere near the same but he will get more support up forward in Whitnall and a fit Fish.

Kennedy is a young up & comer who will split packs and win games.

Over and above your naive little entry into the football world, we have real midfield depth now with the 3 mature mids in Houlihan, Stevo and Scotland, now accompanied by Gibbs, Murphy, Carrazzo, Simpson, Bentick (as extractor), Blackwell, Russell (tagger who took Stanton out of the game - no mean feat) and Lappin / Kouta / Walker as occasional throw-ins.

We are bigger, stronger, faster and better. Our list has been turned over while you sit there claiming the high ground for having 6 good draftpicks in 2006 / 07 whilst you let the oldies reclaim the rest of your list. What other team is going into a year with 6 30+'s in Camporeale, Hird, Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael? Add the 2 ineffective Johnsons and your list is woefully imbalanced for skill v future v years left.

At least get your facts right.

30+ at Essendon 3
30+ at Carlton 2

 

[Jeremias]

pratt only came back because a couple of carlton greats got on their hands and knees and begged him to help out.

i still don't see where carlton's improvement is going to come from???

french is/was better than ackland and cloke
gibbs, who will be a superstar, is struggling with the pace of the game at the moment
your irish full back is a joke. he feels like he has cured cancer whenever he gets a spoil.
fev won't be able to do any better than he did last year.
waite won't be any better at CHB than whitnall was last season.
kennedy's nickname should be "butterfingers"

Lloyd could hardly get near the ball when Setanta played on him. Beating Hall, Thompson, Lloyd, and breaking even with Brown at the very least is an excellent effort.

Essendon - according to you guys we are crap
Hawks - nothing more than a bunch of kids at the moment
Roos - wooden spooners for sure
Brisbane - a one man team who couldn't beat you when their star jon brown dominated in his first hitout for the season

You're right, you are crap-that's the only factually correct thing you mentioned in this entire post.
Hawks-so what if they are kids? So are we.
Roos-Thompson looked like an inexperienced kid vs Setanta
Brisbane-You obviously don't know much about footy. Brisbane are not a one man team-they've got plenty more above average players than Essendon. Brown dominated? Credibility gone right there-well done

not to mention you guys had your best 22 on the park in every match.

So what-we take the preseason seriously. It pays off, too. I don't give a **** who we beat or how strong they were. It's not as if we don't play them in the regular season. Yoiu can only beat the teams the opposition puts on the park-and that's exactly what we did.

maybe you guys should give it a couple of years before saying you are finals contenders

That means you should give it approximately a decade before you call Essendon finals contenders.

Get off out board, nuffy.

 

[borissey]

At least get your facts right.

30+ at Essendon 3
30+ at Carlton 2

I thought you were one of the good Bomber posters

Lets say then 8 28 + on the Bombers list vs. 2 at Carlton?

Why you would try to stick up for a list clearly going against the grain of the modern competition is beyond me.

 

[Merv]

I thought you were one of the good Bomber posters

Lets say then 8 28 + on the Bombers list vs. 2 at Carlton?

Why you would try to stick up for a list clearly going against the grain of the modern competition is beyond me.

I wasn't doing that.
I was only stating the facts.

There is no doubt our list is older than what we would like it to be.
But we do have some very young kids, that i don't think are that far away from playing.

but tbh i dont think theres a massive diiference in the average age of most teams, maybe a year or 2 i think.

 

[borissey]

I wasn't doing that.
I was only stating the facts.

There is no doubt our list is older than what we would like it to be.
But we do have some very young kids, that i don't think are that far away from playing.

but tbh i dont think theres a massive diiference in the average age of most teams, maybe a year or 2 i think.

Only you knew what you were actually trying to do but it looked like you were undermining the point that 'you have too many old fogies on your list'.

I can understand a 2 year gap from a young up & coming team to an established premiership contender. I think part of the bombers list is the former but not the latter - the list set-up is all wrong. It was like us last year with so many mid 20's players who just werent up to scratch. you can give some leeway to some promising 20 year olds who show a bit - like Johns - but not to someone 5 years in who still cant command a spot in a team.

At the end of 2007 the Blues will have a settled senior line-up with 4-6 young good players pushing for a spot, and no one over 30 with Kouta and Lappin most likely moving on. Stephens at 27 or so will be one of our more senior players and if we get the midfield right he can return to being a truly damaging outside player. That's whats exciting about us. All the hard decisions for our list have been made. Sure we still have some retirements this year and some other players who wont get a game this year, but 2007 will be the start of a long resurgence for the Blues.

 

[hulld]

quick get Ramanaskus back into your side and play him on Setanta

that is a stupid thing to say mate. show some respect

Over and above your naive little entry into the football world, we have real midfield depth now with the 3 mature mids in Houlihan, Stevo and Scotland, now accompanied by Gibbs, Murphy, Carrazzo, Simpson, Bentick (as extractor), Blackwell, Russell (tagger who took Stanton out of the game - no mean feat) and Lappin / Kouta / Walker as occasional throw-ins.
besides gibbs all those blokes were playing last year

We are bigger, stronger, faster and better. Our list has been turned over while you sit there claiming the high ground for having 6 good draftpicks in 2006 / 07 whilst you let the oldies reclaim the rest of your list. What other team is going into a year with 6 30+'s in Camporeale, Hird, Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael? Add the 2 ineffective Johnsons and your list is woefully imbalanced for skill v future v years left.[/QUOTE]

isn't every team bigger, stronger and faster????

Lloyd could hardly get near the ball when Setanta played on him. Beating Hall, Thompson, Lloyd, and breaking even with Brown at the very least is an excellent effort.

brown killed setanta. the only time he didn't mark the ball was when he had two or three guys to beat

just one last question. were you guys talking the blues up this much back in 2005???

 

[borissey]

that is a stupid thing to say mate. show some respect

Over and above your naive little entry into the football world, we have real midfield depth now with the 3 mature mids in Houlihan, Stevo and Scotland, now accompanied by Gibbs, Murphy, Carrazzo, Simpson, Bentick (as extractor), Blackwell, Russell (tagger who took Stanton out of the game - no mean feat) and Lappin / Kouta / Walker as occasional throw-ins.
besides gibbs all those blokes were playing last year

We are bigger, stronger, faster and better. Our list has been turned over while you sit there claiming the high ground for having 6 good draftpicks in 2006 / 07 whilst you let the oldies reclaim the rest of your list. What other team is going into a year with 6 30+'s in Camporeale, Hird, Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Michael? Add the 2 ineffective Johnsons and your list is woefully imbalanced for skill v future v years left.[/QUOTE]

isn't every team bigger, stronger and faster????

Players dont improve with age? Top draft picks dont get better with muscle? Players dont learn how to use their bulk?

What a stupid thing to say.

And no, not all teams get bigger, stronger and faster. Carlton 2002 should tell you that. Essendon 2006 got older, slower and had more aches and pains.

 

[hulld]

out of the above mentioned midfielders who besides simpson and walker run with the ball at high speed???

we have stanton, lovett, winderlich and dyson who run and bounce. i'm not sure whether speed is one of strengths??

 

[audas]

out of the above mentioned midfielders who besides simpson and walker run with the ball at high speed???

we have stanton, lovett, winderlich and dyson who run and bounce. i'm not sure whether speed is one of strengths??

waite, grigg, (debut), setanta. Our drive is from defence, high speed highly agile aggressive defense.

Get this through your head people, carlton of 07 is not carlton of 06.

Same players, maybe, definitely NOT the same team.

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[borissey]

out of the above mentioned midfielders who besides simpson and walker run with the ball at high speed???

we have stanton, lovett, winderlich and dyson who run and bounce. i'm not sure whether speed is one of strengths??

So lets simplify a midfield role to bouncing the ball while running...

Everyone knows stanton is quality, Lovett flashy, but you undermine your own argument with the last 2. They might be able to bounce the ball but can they get it or indeed even keep theirplace in the team? How many yours has Winderlich been on your list for ...4?

An amazing thing about our new defence if it works is that all bar Setanta will run ahead with the bounce. Waite, Thornton, Houlihan, Scotland, Walker all can gain 50-70 metres once in possession due to their respective ball winning, bouncing combinations.

Add Stevens, Murphy, Simpson, Carrazzo who likes a run ( I dont expect you to rate Carrazzo, heck, most Carlton fans dont, but he is a key in 2007) and the young yet-to-be-seens all drafted for pace and size (unlike Essendon who have drafted for pace alone) and I think the pace / ball movement comparison works well for us.

 

[audas]

So lets simplify a midfield role to bouncing the ball while running...

Everyone knows stanton is quality, Lovett flashy, but you undermine your own argument with the last 2. They might be able to bounce the ball but can they get it or indeed even keep theirplace in the team? How many yours has Winderlich been on your list for ...4?

An amazing thing about our new defence if it works is that all bar Setanta will run ahead with the bounce. Waite, Thornton, Houlihan, Scotland, Walker all can gain 50-70 metres once in possession due to their respective ball winning, bouncing combinations.

Add Stevens, Murphy, Simpson, Carrazzo who likes a run ( I dont expect you to rate Carrazzo, heck, most Carlton fans dont, but he is a key in 2007) and the young yet-to-be-seens all drafted for pace and size (unlike Essendon who have drafted for pace alone) and I think the pace / ball movement comparison works well for us.

Setanta is fast, loves to have a run and yes, bounces the ball.....awkwardly, but loves it.

Gibbs is fast, he has been maligned as not being fast as we was not AS fast as some others available, still fast though. We also have Grigg who is meant to be pretty good carrying the ball.

Blues have traded on pace not only for height but for natural footy ability. hawthorn went for all out athletisism a while back and it failed, we didn't want to make that mistake. We have done very well.

And yes,I don't agree with you that carrazzo is the key to 2007,.

 

[borissey]

Audas the point I was trying to make is Setanta isnt counted on as a deliverer of the ball up the field. His main job is minding the opposition forward. Thornton and Waite as two key defenders (model 2007) are also ball gatherers and bouncers up field.

Carrazzo will surprise if maintained as a permanent onballer.