Review R11: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Waalitj Marawar (West Coast Eagles)

[1970crow]

I think I’d give him a weekend off football to freshen him up , no shame in that

We need him fresh and moving at his best

If only we had a game where we played a half decade basket case at home with a full list to choose from. Sadly, these opportunities never eventuate. That said, it’s probably an injury that you either play through or need 2+ months to genuinely repair.

I know we’re meant to worship Burgess as some kind of physical performance God, but reality is that we still get this wrong. We had Crouch crawling around only this year while fit and in form replacements can’t get a look in. Even if they’ve played at the level and gone pretty well.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If only we had a game where we played a half decade basket case at home with a full list to choose from. Sadly, these opportunities never eventuate. That said, it’s probably an injury that you either play through or need 2+ months to genuinely repair.

I know we’re meant to worship Burgess as some kind of physical performance God, but reality is that we still get this wrong. We had Crouch crawling around only this year while fit and in form replacements can’t get a look in. Even if they’ve played at the level and gone pretty well.

I’ll give him the tick for having us very fit and relatively injury free overall though , injuries can be luck too but our fitness looks good

 

[Golumless]

Yes and no. Nicks is the one who gets the final say on the team. But you can see Nicks has been applying greater accountability to his selections. Last year he would have run back to Murphy, Smith etc this year he seems happy to explore other options. This I attribute to Murray coaching him to apply more accountability and reasoning to his selections. This is a stark difference to previous years. Hence the credit. Remember he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to blood draftees last year.

However, Nicks doing the same bad shit he has done for years is Nicks. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

Nicks isn't doing that. We're selecting with the same selection model we've ran for the last 20+ years (and is most likely the industry standard for selection). Don't change much when things are going well, change it up when shit hits the fan and always follow your depth chart. Murray has made sweet **** all difference in this. What has is that we had an offseason where we recruited three best 22 players.

The other thing that has negatively impacted Adelaide over the last 3-4 years is the lack of injuries. That does force change to happen quicker.

 

[CrowBloke]

I know we’re meant to worship Burgess as some kind of physical performance God, but reality is that we still get this wrong. We had Crouch crawling around only this year while fit and in form replacements can’t get a look in. Even if they’ve played at the level and gone pretty well.

Who were the "fit and in form" replacements, plural? Berry?
Let's face it --- I don't know and you don't know what's gone on behind closed doors between Burgess, any player, and Nicks.
However, your negative hyperbole has reached intolerable levels.
Plumbing new depths of exaggeration does not give your posts more credibility, or gravitas.

It just comes across as pessimistic and whinge-y.

Nobody in here has suggested that we "worship" Burgess, but his record and achievements have been very impressive. He's widely recognised and justifiably praised as a result-achieving expert in his field. I have more faith in Burgess than Nicks.
Burgess appears to be one tall poppy you want to ... uhhh ... cut down to size.

Crouch wasn't "crawling around" but he was certainly hampered.
I doubt that Burgess would suggest any injured player should play on; my guess is that Crouch said he was rarin' to go and Nicks believed him, possibly overruling Burgess' advice, but like I said,
I don't know and nor do you.

 

[adelaidecrows]

They kind of did, right? The first free was for high contact, and then the elbow in the back of the head turned it into a 50m penalty which put Peatling in the goal square.

what i am suggesting is because of the rough conduct afterwards in front of literally the umpire, he should have received two shots. Then WCE coach would have done the AFLs job for them and punished the shit out of the offending player. Stupid shit should win stupid prizes. He went harder as he knew he had already given the 50. So in my view 100% should have been an automatic extra penalty. Had it been further back down the field peatling would have received two 50m, a 50m is supposed to be an extra free kick right? so this is a rule change the AfL can consider.

 

[Golumless]

Who were the "fit and in form" replacements, plural? Berry?
Let's face it --- I don't know and you don't know what's gone on behind closed doors between Burgess, any player, and Nicks.
However, your negative hyperbole has reached intolerable levels.
Plumbing new depths of exaggeration does not give your posts more credibility, or gravitas.

It just comes across as pessimistic and whinge-y.

Nobody in here has suggested that we "worship" Burgess, but his record and achievements have been very impressive. He's widely recognised and justifiably praised as a result-achieving expert in his field. I have more faith in Burgess than Nicks.
Burgess appears to be one tall poppy you want to ... uhhh ... cut down to size.

Crouch wasn't "crawling around" but he was certainly hampered.
I doubt that Burgess would suggest any injured player should play on; my guess is that Crouch said he was rarin' to go and Nicks believed him, possibly overruling Burgess' advice, but like I said,
I don't know and nor do you.

Eh, Burgess has a history of doing that. From an article on afl.com when he was leaving Melbourne to come here:

"My biggest thing was to try and implement some physical resilience in the playing group," Burgess said.

"There's two ways to go about injury prevention, I think.

"If someone has niggles you give them a rest so they complete as many sessions as possible, cut the sessions short if someone's a bit sore, or you can build them up and push them through those periods where they're a little sore, a little bit tender and a little bit fatigued … to provide them with that robustness to get through."

Burgess said he used to subscribe to the former theory before evolving to the latter in recent years.

A part of us being as injury free as we've been is Burgess and co. have pushed players who are carrying minor niggles on instead of resting them. We're just picking up the occasional moment where he's tried and got it wrong (whether they were too injured, or it worsened it).

 

[TBM]

Bad/Ugly, Mcleod not being part of the indigenous past players honour guard with Betts, Johncock, Eddie Hocking, Ricky O'Loughlin and Shane Tongerie

I admittedly haven't kept up to date enough on this.

Obviously the Edwards saga in the past soured things, but he was back involved with the AFLW program a few years ago. What's happened since then that's made him drop away from involvement with the club?

Sad situation for all parties, hopefully a reconciliation isn't too far away.

 

[Samcro24]

I admittedly haven't kept up to date enough on this.

Obviously the Edwards saga in the past soured things, but he was back involved with the AFLW program a few years ago. What's happened since then that's made him drop away from involvement with the club?

Sad situation for all parties, hopefully a reconciliation isn't too far away.

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[davos44]

Who is responsible for teaching the players again?

The development coaches

 

[FR0GGY]

The development coaches

And who is responsible for them

 

[Cromulant]

And who is responsible for them

Probably Murray Davis TBH

 

[CrowBloke]

Froggy:
"Who is responsible for teaching the players again? "

The development coaches

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And who is responsible for them

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Probably Murray Davis TBH

OK then ... Sack Davis.

Then Sack Nicks.

Then hire Davis, as Head Coach.

 

[davos44]

Froggy:
"Who is responsible for teaching the players again? "

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OK then ... Sack Davis.

Then Sack Nicks.

Then hire Davis, as Head Coach.

The hidden succession plan.

 

[davos44]

And who is responsible for them

Michael Godden. Not sure if he reports to Nicks or Murray.