Preview R14: Changes vs. Hawthorn Hawks

[Coopers]

And thus Taylor's career is finished at Adelaide.

Yeah, that's probably true and that's very shit of the AFC.


Preferring Murphy over him is just bad.

 

[davos44]

He got two less touches than the guy we chose ahead of him in last week’s SANFL game

If you’re moving Rash/Keays/ANB into the midfield more, at least select Dowling

Dowling isn't killing it either, same as Taylor, Sholl and Nank. Good, not great. Murphy isn't going great guns either, let me say that. I don't love the selection but Draper really struggled against Sydney.

 

[OzSparrow]

Is this the selection equivalent of the T-bicep sign? Thanks to everyone for getting us into a good spot, now we'll bring in the senior players to defend our ladder position from here!

Straight out of the Don Pyke manual.

That worked out real well for him didn't it? Good decision making Matthew.

This club has the habit of tearing your hair out with its decisions.

 

[George CantStandYa]

I love the way you attribute my thoughts/opinions to club selection policy and then accuse me of mental gymnastics.

If JP wasn't suspended neither would play.

No I don’t. I’m relating to your comments on Smith v Edwards selection and even now, we didn’t have to bring Murphy in, we have other players.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Dowling isn't killing it either, same as Taylor, Sholl and Nank. Good, not great. Murphy isn't going great guns either, let me say that. I don't love the selection but Draper really struggled against Sydney.

How much did Draper play against Sydney and did he play midfield?

 

[AFC979810]

I was wrong, sack Davis.

Nice. Say it again for those in the back.

Remember when you said Nicks couldn’t be a defensive coach because we had the number one attack when we are also the number 2 defensive team? Lol

Yeah you can't be a defensive coach when you have had the #1 offense in the AFL 2/3 years. I will die on that hill.

 

[Cromulant]

And thus Taylor's career is finished at Adelaide.

I dont think its that simple TBH.

We arent going to cut that deeply and he's still in front of a few.

 

[TheRoo32]

Last two seasons in games with Murphy selected:
5 wins, 13 losses

Last two seasons in games without Murphy selected:
12 wins, 5 losses, 1 draw

Just put the life savings on Hawthorn (gamble responsibly)

 

[George CantStandYa]

Nice. Say it again for those in the back.



Yeah you can't be a defensive coach when you have had the #1 offense in the AFL 2/3 years. I will die on that hill.

You can’t be an offensive coach if you are ranked no 2 for defence. See how silly your argument is, can’t believe I needed Scorpus to point that out, would have saved me a lot of time.

 

[FR0GGY]

Nice. Say it again for those in the back.



Yeah you can't be a defensive coach when you have had the #1 offense in the AFL 2/3 years. I will die on that hill.

Is bringing in Murphy, who doesn’t get the pill or score goals, something an attacking coach would do?

 

[AFC979810]

Is bringing in Murphy, who doesn’t get the pill or score goals, something an attacking coach would do?

What a silly question.

Does the most defensive coach in the history of the AFL (Ross Lyon) playing two of the top 50 goalscorers of all time make him an attacking coach?

 

[MarcusP2]

Thats a pretty good description TBH.

He and the coaching group think this is the best move to win tonight's game, which in itself is a bit scary.

Just heard Roo saying they've bought in Murphy for forward defensive pressure (which he doesn't provide effectively) and he's been in good form in the SANFL (playing a completely different position).

Cooked.

 

[AFC979810]

You can’t be an offensive coach if you are ranked no 2 for defence. See how silly your argument is, can’t believe I needed Scorpus to point that out, would have saved me a lot of time.

1 > 2.

You can be an offensive coach if the side you coach is the #1 offense in 2/3 years. Defensively we were ranked #10 in 2023, #10 in 2024 and now in 2025 we are #2..

You have admitted that Nicks stupidly went defensive in 2024. So what was he in 2023?

 

[FR0GGY]

What a silly question.

Does the most defensive coach in the history of the AFL (Ross Lyon) playing two of the top 50 goalscorers of all time make him an attacking coach?

Jeeze playing 2 top 50 goal scorers of all time or choosing to playing Murphy, yeah completely comparable.

 

[Scorpus]

Remember when you said Murray had never seen Murphy play. And that was the only reason Murphy was allowed to play against the Suns was because Nicks convinced him. And then after Murphy sucked - Murray said get him out and Murray dropped him.

Funny of you to accuse others of mental gymnastics when you are the mental Simone Byles.

Correct.

Can't absolve Murray Davis of the blame. If anything I say he is 100% responsible. As coaching director I'm confident he overruled his subordinate Matthew Nicks

 

[skittlebrew]

Whatever happened to Dowling?

Remember that brief period of time when he got a run over Murphy, what a time to be alive.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Just heard Roo saying they've bought in Murphy for forward defensive pressure (which he doesn't provide effectively) and he's been in good form in the SANFL (playing a completely different position).

Cooked.

If they seriously play him in that role where he’s continually failed at, based on his midfield form in the SANFL, seriously burn the place down.

 

[AFC979810]

Correct.

Can't absolve Murray Davis of the blame. If anything I say he is 100% responsible. As coaching director I'm confident he overruled his subordinate Matthew Nicks

Huh?

 

[AFC979810]

Jeeze playing 2 top 50 goal scorers of all time or choosing to playing Murphy, yeah completely comparable.

It your shitty example mate.

Selecting one crappy player who isnt good offensively good doesn't make Mathew Nicks anything other than stupid.

 

[Scorpus]

Huh?

Earlier this year the theory was that Murray Davis made all the good decisions and Nicks made all the bad decisions

Turns out that was wrong. We now know Nicks is a very good coach, so the bad decisions MUST have been Davis

 

[FR0GGY]

It your shitty example mate.

Selecting one crappy player who isnt good offensively good doesn't make Mathew Nicks anything other than stupid.

A defensive coach still needs to score and even nicks would pick top 50 goal scorers of all time.
He did not have to pick Murphy who is not an attacking player rather “known (yeah I know)” for his defensive pressure.
Anyway you’ve taken it way more seriously than I thought

 

[AFC979810]

A defensive coach still needs to score and even nicks would pick top 50 goal scorers of all time.
He did not have to pick Murphy who is not an attacking player rather “known (yeah I know)” for his defensive pressure.
Anyway you’ve taken it way more seriously than I thought

T'was a poor dig Frog. You know old Elite got me all worked up.

 

[AFC979810]

Earlier this year the theory was that Murray Davis made all the good decisions and Nicks made all the bad decisions

Correct.

Turns out that was wrong. We now know Nicks is a very good coach, so the bad decisions MUST have been Davis

Not like you to miss the point completely! Colour me shocked.

Just to clarify - all this did was to disprove the whole Murray Davis was behind the Murphy getting dropped after the Gold Coast theory.

 

[Coopers]

Earlier this year the theory was that Murray Davis made all the good decisions and Nicks made all the bad decisions

Turns out that was wrong. We now know Nicks is a very good coach, so the bad decisions MUST have been Davis

They would have to be in somewhat reasonable alignment.

Like they can't be violently disagreeing with each other, every step of the way, it wold be untenable.

So however this has come about, you'd have to point at both of them.

 

[Scorpus]

They would have to be in somewhat reasonable alignment.

Like they can't be violently disagreeing with each other, every step of the way, it wold be untenable.

So however this has come about, you'd have to point at both of them.

Murray Davis doesn't look like the sort of person that would punch Matthew Nicks but he could be a silent assassin for all we know