Preview R22: Changes vs. West Coast Eagles

[Mattrox]

There's no reason we can't manage players and smash them.

But really you're putting the secondary goal first. Beat Collingwood and percentage doesn't matter. Six day break, how do we best prepare for that game.

We've got a gift in terms of having this game now, we'd be crazy not to use it strategically.

This absolutely has to be the strategy.

 

[Betts are off]

Looks like Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

will likely miss from an already woeful side

Like the Eagles, but I suspect the First 100 pointer is coming up.

Thilthorpe could kick 10

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Looks like Liam Ryan will likely miss from an already woeful side

Like the Eagles, but I suspect the First 100 pointer is coming up.

Thilthorpe could kick 10

For us or the league? Geelong beat North by 100 last week.

 

[Hell Boy6669]

I feel like we should rest thilthy and daws, by far and away our two most important players. let’s just roll Collingwood the following week and not worry about %.

 

[ams4crows]

I feel like we should rest thilthy and daws, by far and away our two most important players. let’s just roll Collingwood the following week and not worry about %.

I agree about resting Thilthorpe, I think Tex would benefit more from two weeks off and resting for the North game.

Play Dawson up forward and put DC in the guts

 

[FR0GGY]

Pre 2025 us would reward a winning side!

 

[George CantStandYa]

If we rest Tex, all going well he will play his 300 first final at home.

I’m not sure about this, would celebration distract from the prep?

 

[_SirStealthy01]

Give Curtin a ton of CBA's and bring Draper in

Muzza Jnr or Burgo in for Thilthorpe if he has a rest or Tex?? possibly

 

[Burtonsgottago]

Six day break before playing Collingwood after playing the bottom team in Perth means we should rotate our squad to freshen up, avoid injury, and build a better base if injuries hit before or in the finals series.
Out - Tex, Rob, Smith, Cooked
In - Nankervis, McAndrew, Laird, one of Dowling, Draper or Edwards

 

[George CantStandYa]

Six day break before playing Collingwood after playing the bottom team in Perth means we should rotate our squad to freshen up, avoid injury, and build a better base if injuries hit before or in the finals series.
Out - Tex, Rob, Smith, Cooked
In - Nankervis, McAndrew, Laird, one of Dowling, Draper or Edwards

McAndrew has a broken jaw

 

[Burtonsgottago]

McAndrew has a broken jaw

I see the problem

 

[Rotayjay]

If Tex is rested against West Coast, and we finish top 2, he would play his 300th in a home qualifying final. How good would that be?

 

[crows dude]

Laird in for Cook.
F Walker Fogarty Rankine
HF Keays Thilthorpe Neal-Bullen
C Curtin Berry Cumming
HB Laird Keane Milera
B Bond Murray Worrell
R O'Brien Dawson Peatling
I Hinge Jones Soligo Taylor
S Smith

 

[pjcrows]

If we rest Tex, all going well he will play his 300 first final at home.

I’m not sure about this, would celebration distract from the prep?

If Tex is rested against West Coast, and we finish top 2, he would play his 300th in a home qualifying final. How good would that be?

 

[imagifED]

Out: Tex and Smith
In: Pedlar and Laird

No to Crouch. Outdated. A single player especially in the guts could negatively change how we play.
No to Nankervis. A bit of an awkward player with his height and playing style. We are well covered for height, we more need him to be a running small defender.
No to Dowling or Edwards. Too late in the season and especially with their postions.
Persist with Cook, Jones, Pedlar. They have each shown a bit, get some continuity and confidence into them.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Laird in for Cook.
F Walker Fogarty Rankine
HF Keays Thilthorpe Neal-Bullen
C Curtin Berry Cumming
HB Laird Keane Milera
B Bond Murray Worrell
R O'Brien Dawson Peatling
I Hinge Jones Soligo Taylor
S Smith

Cook out will be the only change, barring injury or resting

It might be a good game to rest Dawson. He looked sore at times.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The question is what is the team we want to select against the Pies? We need to play all our potential fringe players that are in contention & may be needed as cover in finals.

For Pies game...

B: Laird, Murray, Keane
HB: Milera, Worrell, Hinge
C: Cumming, Dawson, Curtin
HF: ANB, Fogarty, Keays
F: Walker, Thilthorpe, Rankine
R: O’Brien, Soligo, Peatling
I: Bond, Berry, Nankervis, Taylor
Sub: Jones

 

[CrowBloke]

and then give Cook one final chance with a full game on the wing?

+

I would persist with Cook to give him confidence.

With respect to both posters, Cook was invisible last night; clearly our worst player against a hot opponent in a high pressure game, similar to a Final.
1) Why would the Coaches reward his poor game with a downhill-skiing game against the weakest side in the Comp?
2) Why would the Coaches consider bolstering his confidence with the strong possibility he would repeat last night's shocker against Collingwood in the next game?
It makes no sense to me.

Selection integrity is about rewarding good (or at least impactful) form in tough games and giving in-form SANFL players a chance to excel in the AFL eg Berry who was given another chance and seized it with both hands.
Cook has had several chances at AFL level (think: Murphy/ Sholl/ Borlase, even Pedlar all of whom could benefit from a confidence boost against WCE but would still not be best-23).
The Crows need to look at and play someone else.

 

[Tex Danger]

I understand the desire to rest a few players but they have to take every game seriously. Tex rested, that's it.

Agree this wil be the case except we don’t know how players physically are so if there’s anyone who has any concerns that may make them not 100% for Collingwood they will prob rest them

I expect a lot of in game management though

 

[CrowBloke]

West Coast are abysmal without Harley Reid

We could keep them goalless the entire game and win by 150

Great!
For this game, manage only players who really need to be 'managed'. Burgess would know whom.
Tex looks pretty sound and is in good form, not showing any signs of fatigue or carrying a niggle; let him fill his boots next week for 2.5 quarters.

Send over the strongest team possible then "win by 150" or more.
Show no mercy and send a message to Collingwood et al that we're dinkum and to be feared.

 

[Mattrox]

+

With respect to both posters, Cook was invisible last night; clearly our worst player against a hot opponent in a high pressure game, similar to a Final.
1) Why would the Coaches reward his poor game with a downhill-skiing game against the weakest side in the Comp?
2) Why would the Coaches consider bolstering his confidence with the strong possibility he would repeat last night's shocker against Collingwood in the next game?
It makes no sense to me.

Selection integrity is about rewarding good (or at least impactful) form in tough games and giving in-form SANFL players a chance to excel in the AFL eg Berry who was given another chance and seized it with both hands.
Cook has had several chances at AFL level (think: Murphy/ Sholl/ Borlase, even Pedlar all of whom could benefit from a confidence boost against WCE but would still not be best-23).
The Crows need to look at and play someone else.

You mentioned Murphy... I think that disqualifes your premise.

 

[earlsta]

We need to rest ANB, Tex this week, bring in anyone
ANB is almost 30 and covers the most km in our team week in week out.

 

[119others]

3 options

(1) full strength and go for the jugular - win by 100-120 points and it almost certainly sows up a top 2 spot
(2) rest a few players - Tex, Dawson (was heavily managed last qtr against Port IIRC), Soligo, ANB or Keays and perhaps a defender win by 60-70 points
(3) rest a heap (6+) win base line 30-40

Ultimately we can speculate but our fitness guys seem completion best. We have rare form and momentum. I am not sure I would be messing with that too much. We can basically sow up top 2 with a big win so only rest anyone genuinely needing it so near full strength to me

 

[BRL121]

We need to rest ANB, Tex this week, bring in anyone
ANB is almost 30 and covers the most km in our team week in week out.

That is a sensible suggestion.

 

[ams4crows]

3 options

(1) full strength and go for the jugular - win by 100-120 points and it almost certainly sows up a top 2 spot
(2) rest a few players - Tex, Dawson (was heavily managed last qtr against Port IIRC), Soligo, ANB or Keays and perhaps a defender win by 60-70 points
(3) rest a heap (6+) win base line 30-40

Ultimately we can speculate but our fitness guys seem completion best. We have rare form and momentum. I am not sure I would be messing with that too much. We can basically sow up top 2 with a big win so only rest anyone genuinely needing it so near full strength to me

where we finish solely relies on the Collingwood game, win finish 1st, lose finish 2nd 3rd perhaps even 4th if results don't go our way.

I'd be sending a B grade team to West coast and rest most stars, in order to prepare for Collingwood