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Review R23: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood

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Loved the article, thanks, eg
"This was a victory built on desperation. On grit. On guts and determination. On heart. And when you add those traits to the brilliant skill, brute strength and frenetic speed the Crows already demonstrate on a weekly basis, you have something special." and later:

"... it was all moments. Ben Keays sprinting into the middle to mark a despairing Wayne Milera kick out of defence, knowing full well to spill it was to invite an almost certain turnover. Lachie Schultz flying into a marking contest with barely a minute on the clock but only managing to take down Nick Daicos and leave three Crows free at the drop to rebound. Keane’s desperation to twice foil at the death Magpie attempts to first mark and then snap for the winning goal. Milera again hacking clear in the final seconds and somehow finding the chest of Jordan Dawson.

None of it made sense. None of it was beautiful, or slick, or scintillating, or anything you’d usually say about Adelaide. This was pure slog. And it was glorious to behold.".
It sure was.
Great read.
It was weird too, I think TV makes things seem so much worse and dramatic but at the game, I wasn't nervous, I was excited. Even when they'd get within a goal I thought in that last quarter it was "We've got this."

I haven't thought that about a Crows side in a close game since the ****ing 90's.
 
Even when Pies were throwing it, that dickhead Lyon referred to it as a "reverse Crow throw".

Oh but remember, he was "gushing" in the rooms and actually loves us.

Yeah it was surprising to hear about his supposed love for us

I thought he was clearly annoyed at us beating Hawthorn during the broadcast a few weeks ago
 

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Channel 7 broadcast AFLW in to Melbourne and Perth, instead of Crows v Pies. Unbelievable.

AFL are the ones who structured the deal and then the gooses broadcast Essendon and Carlton games in the floating fixture. AFL literally couldn’t organise a **** in a brothel.
 
‘Fluffs’ the throw by 15m 90 degrees to the target? I’d say yes.
Okay, 50cm then, is that supposed to be a free? Trying to figure out the rule. I've always thought it was about intent. Would hate to receive a free kick for that personally.
 
AFL are the ones who structured the deal and then the gooses broadcast Essendon and Carlton games in the floating fixture. AFL literally couldn’t organise a **** in a brothel.
Umm... no. Ch7 have the rights to 3 games each round, and I believe they can choose which games to cover. For most of the season, they have chosen to broadcast the Thurs & Fri games and one of the Sunday games. It is Ch7's choice - not the AFL's.

For the floating round, they have recognised the utter shiteness of Carlton & Essendon, and have chosen NOT to broadcast the Thursday game as one of their 3 matches for the round.
 
I just didn't see it, although I was looking for Murphy whenever possible.
eg Hugh Bond had low numbers but I remember at least three of his tackles as being impactful at crucial times --- gets a tick from me.
Zac Taylor was ineffective (and subbed out because of it) but he gets a Mulligan from me on the back of recent games (Murphy does not).
Murray had poor numbers, but I remember one of his defensive marks at a crucial moment (I have no numbers on spoils, 1%-ers, pressure acts etc).

Murphy, nada; I cannot recall a single moment when I thought "Oh, good one Murph".
That contest against Naicos at their CHF was pretty good.

I'm judging Murphy on Murphy, he did the job he was designated and did it to a decent level.

It's really hard to see on TV, but in traffic he kept with Jaicos and quelled his ability to run from half back through the ground. That guy sets up a lot of their attacks from half back.

Murphy is far from a world beating tagger or "the cooler" but it was clear to me he was bought in to perform that role.
 
Yeah it was surprising to hear about his supposed love for us

I thought he was clearly annoyed at us beating Hawthorn during the broadcast a few weeks ago
I think they kind of go into a different mode when they're down in the rooms after the game. Like they're visiting relatives and they're on their best behaviour. I think in the heat of the moment during a game, that's a more real representation of how they really think.
 

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Umm... no. Ch7 have the rights to 3 games each round, and I believe they can choose which games to cover. For most of the season, they have chosen to broadcast the Thurs & Fri games and one of the Sunday games. It is Ch7's choice - not the AFL's.

For the floating round, they have recognised the utter shiteness of Carlton & Essendon, and have chosen NOT to broadcast the Thursday game as one of their 3 matches for the round.
Not sure thats correct at all
 
It was weird too, I think TV makes things seem so much worse and dramatic but at the game, I wasn't nervous, I was excited. Even when they'd get within a goal I thought in that last quarter it was "We've got this."
Believe it or not, at 3/4 time I was walking back to the living room from the kitchen with a cuppa and I felt strangely calm, for no good reason I can think of.
I remember thinking exactly that "We've got this".
I still dunno why I felt that. Maybe the Hawks game/win and a couple others.

This will annoy some because I still have my doubts about Nicks' Selections and Game Day adaptibility, but we have form and momentum.
Changes were made after quarter-time that balanced our competitiveness; if Nicks did that, fnBEAUTY.
I haven't thought that about a Crows side in a close game since the ****ing 90's.
Me, too.
WINNING ... soooo much more fun than losing!
 
Two posters whom I respect but often disagree with (no problem) have suggested that Murphy was not garbage/invisible last night and that he actually did an effective job on Daicos, below:

I played footy but only to B-Grade Amateur level and the modern game has a lot of nuances (zoning/structure/set plays etc) that I admit freely I have little knowledge of eg yesterday I saw one of our blokes take possession and give a handball off to a teammate on his blindside! I thought "How tf did he know his mate was even there?" (OK, talking/calling but also because they've trained that positioning so often, yeah?).
Anyway, while a lot of those things get past me, I think I understand footy on an ok level, and can see when someone has had an impact <== ie I see it. I notice it.
I did not notice Murphy yesterday and I am not cracking wise about "he does things nobody (but Nicks) notices".
Except for a couple of clangers he was invisible to me.
I was not "at the match", so that might be why.

Yes, Keane and Worrell were amazing, but who was the "we" you're talking about?
Murphy?
I did not see it.

AND

Mate, plenty of players "didn't affect the game as [they] could have" eg it wasn't Thilthorpe's best game.
Thilthorpe was scragged and harassed and double-teamed all night. Fly got Moore and others to do a number on Thilthorpe, but it was clear to me that Thilthorpe still had impact:
1) when he was rucking, plus obvious follow-up pressure acts, and
2) often brought the ball to ground when being crashed into on two sides in marking packs, then
3) stood up in the last for that strong contested mark (when most needed) and goal, without which we would have lost.

I wanna believe you blokes about Murphy, but I cannot remember seeing a single thing --- not even one --- that Murphy did that was impactful on last night's game, or indeed upon Daicos to keep him quiet.
Should I watch the replay and look harder? <== seriously.

I'm willing to concede that I could well be wrong and that I might have missed a lot (or all) of what Murphy did because I watched on TV which misses broader-picture events away from the central action.

In fact, I'd love it if Murphy had a job to do and did it, effectively. Great! if that was the case.

I just didn't see it, although I was looking for Murphy whenever possible.
eg Hugh Bond had low numbers but I remember at least three of his tackles as being impactful at crucial times --- gets a tick from me.
Zac Taylor was ineffective (and subbed out because of it) but he gets a Mulligan from me on the back of recent games (Murphy does not).
Murray had poor numbers, but I remember one of his defensive marks at a crucial moment (I have no numbers on spoils, 1%-ers, pressure acts etc).

Murphy, nada; I cannot recall a single moment when I thought "Oh, good one Murph".

I didn't see Murphy "by [Daicos'] side continually", in fact I hardly saw him at all. I do remember the play-on/slip/htb and a few ineffective late attempts but he struck me as being ... looking for the right words ... a bit lost/ poor positioning/ off the action.
Another poster (sorry, don't remember who it was) pointed out that Murphy had 9 pressure acts for an entire game. Channel 9 showed (and praised) a kid for GWS do 4 pressure acts, one after another, in about 10 seconds of play.
Murphy's stats for a full game were comparable to Schoenberg's for a single quarter.

So, serious question (not a set-up, not a trap) what did Murphy actually do that got your approval? :confusedv1:
I'd be happy to watch the game again, just to see what you saw.
I wouldn’t get to concerned about it some get carried away with the little knowledge they have
 
That contest against Naicos at their CHF was pretty good.
Thanks.
When was that please?
I'm judging Murphy on Murphy, he did the job he was designated and did it to a decent level.
That says everything to me about Murphy ie "judging Murphy" on his mediocre record and recent ineffectiveness.
He did one good thing (above)? does not = he played well.
Sorry, I'm not convinced.
It's really hard to see on TV, but in traffic he kept with Jaicos and quelled his ability to run from half back through the ground. That guy sets up a lot of their attacks from half back.
You're right; I didn't see that and will look for it when I watch the replay.
Murphy is far from a world beating tagger or "the cooler" but it was clear to me he was bought in to perform that role.
I didn't see that either and will look for it when I watch the replay, cheers.
 

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Thats got nothing to do with why they arent showing Saturday games..... which was the original point
They have 3 games each week. At the start of the season they chose to broadcast the Thurs, Fri and one of the Sunday games. This was their (Ch7's) choice. It is not, and never has been, mandated by the AFL.
 
I wouldn’t get to concerned about it some get carried away with the little knowledge they have
:confusedv1:
Do you mean me, or them?

I know I got "carried away" with Murphy's inclusion and with the last 8 games but, hell, it's such a great change from losing.
I know I miss a lot about structure and zoning too.

The transformation in the Crows evident in the second half of this year is a huge surprise to me.
Huuuge, wonderful surprise!! :D
 
They have 3 games each week. At the start of the season they chose to broadcast the Thurs, Fri and one of the Sunday games. This was their (Ch7's) choice. It is not, and never has been, mandated by the AFL.
Good to see you still havent found the point.

Must be a Canberra thing.
 
Umm... no. Ch7 have the rights to 3 games each round, and I believe they can choose which games to cover. For most of the season, they have chosen to broadcast the Thurs & Fri games and one of the Sunday games. It is Ch7's choice - not the AFL's.

For the floating round, they have recognised the utter shiteness of Carlton & Essendon, and have chosen NOT to broadcast the Thursday game as one of their 3 matches for the round.

Ok, so C7 gave up full rights to all Saturday coverage and handed it to Foxtel.
 
The whole concept of timewasting is ridiculous. The clock stops when the ball goes out.
I think it’s for situations where you are stopping the efficient restart of play. For example to let players get in position or similar. Not for taking actual seconds off the clock.

Thilthorpe was obviously not trying to do that but I think this would usually be a free.
 

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