Review R3: The Good, Bad and Ugly vs. North Melbourne

[JennyTalia]

We also did it late in 2020 amongst our shocker season.

Wikipedia tells me rd 15-17

2023 - Rounds 3-6.
2022 - Rounds 20-22

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Ugly:

Fox commentators commenting the game from a studio and having no idea what was happening when the ball cannoned into the post.

Why spend so much money on the rights, freezing out fans and then going all in and having commentators at every game.

 

[Peter Doherty]

It's been about 336 hours of joy and happiness and I'm wary that we still haven't beaten a good team and might be getting ahead of ourselves.

 

[GreyCrow]

We've been switched on and started games well, makes a world of difference kicking 4-6 goals in the first quarter every week

Congrats on the blue tick

 

[cleanhands]

A few late bumps, high tackles. Xerri was keen to fall on, follow through with tackles etc.

Wish our ruckman would

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Trying to make 21st century decisions with outdated technology

It pisses me off that the AFL have so much money, insist on having score reviews, yet refuse to spend it on getting the high speed cameras for those reviews. So we're left with looking at super blurry vision to try and determine if a kick has been touched or not.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Ugly:

Fox commentators commenting the game from a studio and having no idea what was happening when the ball cannoned into the post.

Why spend so much money on the rights, freezing out fans and then going all in and having commentators at every game.

Couldn't believe this watching the replay.

I was sitting right behind Fog's kick - it was immediately obvious that it hit the post.

What the commentators didn't realise was the goal umpire immediately signalled goal and waved two flags. Now to be fair to the goal umpire, sometimes being right underneath it is actually the worst place from which to determine whether the ball hit the post. That's why we have video reviews, and it's not the end of the world.

But because of the goal umpire's signal, this farce unfolded where the umpires took the ball back to the middle of the ground for the restart, even though everyone knew it had to come back. All the players were forced into their 6-6-6 positions. A bemused looking Fog went to the goal square in the full knowledge that it had to come back.

But none of this was captured on tv so the Fox commentators had no idea it was happening. And because Fox didn't want to send commentators to the ground they were painting this picture where all the Crows players and fans were trying to advance this big deception that it was a goal - when the reality was all that the players really wanted to do was to set up for a kick in while the crowd was just waiting for the correct decision to (inevitably) be made so that we could get on with the game.

Fog said immediately that it had hit the post. Like walking in cricket - that should be enough, no need for a formal review, get on with the game.

 

[jenny61_99]

Being at the game watching him hunched over try to get air off the ball makes it look bad. I was in the western stand close to the goals. So I saw it in the first and third quarter. Where were you sitting, Jenny?

On SM-S928B using BigFooty.com mobile app

On my couch... in Brisbane. But you already knew that.

From what I could see on the TV, he looked to play his role well (and even had to step up for Keane sometimes too).

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

I couldn't hear the commentary because I was helping my kids with something in another room, and as such had the Ch 7 feed on at that point. Saw it deviate massively and thought "Bugger." Then looked back a few seconds later and saw them go to ads. I was sitting there like... huh? I started thinking "Did it just happen to hit part of the stand that looked like it was right behind the post?" Felt like I was taking crazy pills.

I thought it must have hit the netting behind the goals and that's what the deviation was. That was the only way a deviation like that made sense when the Channel 7 commentators were raving on about it being a goal. I completely blanked that the netting is only there during the warm up.

 

[jenny61_99]

The $25 Kayo fee to avoid BT.

I kept hearing people talk about BT and I'm thinking... we don't have BT... what are they talking about! haha

 

[Mutineer]

On my couch... in Brisbane. But you already knew that.

From what I could see on the TV, he looked to play his role well (and even had to step up for Keane sometimes too).

Problem is Suns have 2 202cm monster forwards, and King is very quick on the lead, not to mention the 195cm absolute brutish Jed Walter, we'll need to at least break even in the midfield to be a chance IMO and that will be no mean task with the 208cm Jarrod Witts with Rowell, Anderson, Miller at his feet as well as Flanders, Humphrey who usually have a run on ball at times.

 

[jenny61_99]

Problem is Suns have 2 202cm monster forwards, and King is very quick on the lead, not to mention the 195cm absolute brutish Jed Walter, we'll need to at least break even in the midfield to be a chance IMO and that will be no mean task with the 208cm Jarrod Witts with Rowell, Anderson, Miller at his feet as well as Flanders, Humphrey who usually have a run on ball at times.

Butts is not quick. So how would that help?

 

[Mutineer]

Butts is not quick. So how would that help?

Quicker than Borlase and a far better tank for repeat efforts and a lot taller in case you haven't noticed.....also has a pretty good record when matched up on the monster forwards in the past.

 

[chazwazza]

I thought it must have hit the netting behind the goals and that's what the deviation was. That was the only way a deviation like that made sense when the Channel 7 commentators were raving on about it being a goal. I completely blanked that the netting is only there during the warm up.

Yep, I saw it deviate then when they signalled a goal I thought “are they leaving the netting up now?”

 

[CrowBloke]

[Hinge] was brilliant against North.

Felt he was underwhelming without being bad the first two games.

Round 3: 7 Marks, 6 score involvements, 8 intercepts, 512 Metres gained, 8 Rebound 50's.

Rounds 1&2 combined: 7 Marks, 8 score involvements, 9 intercepts, 463 metres gained, 5 rebound 50's.

YES!
+

We have a real even spread of contributors.

If you told North that they would keep Dawson to a very quiet game whilst keeping Rankine, Rachele and FOG to 2 goals between them they would have taken it. This happened and we still won by 6 goals.

Spot on .
Completely by coincidence, I had a long phone conversation with a mate about the game (I was there; he wasn't) just before I read your posts which contained a lot of what I told him.
We have more, better personnel. (You: "We have a real even spread of contributors")
Clarko put a lid on Dawson and Crouch and flooded our forward line (one half of the oval was empty often) using their speed and run to counter-attack. As you said, what Clarko and his team did would ordinarily have been enough for them to overrun us eventually (another poster said the 2024 Crows would have lost that game, with which I agree).
With Dawson and Crouch dulled and the 3 you mentioned having 2 goals between them, other Crows really stood up --- most notably Hinge, Soligo, Rankine, Peatling, Keays, Walker and Curtin had his best game for us too.
We have not had this good a side since 2015-16-17. Fitness is A grade, thanks to Burgess.
Now, my main concern is Nicks .

 

[Jeffcrowe]

We were well in control of the game, he could have been chucked in for some centre square work and moved forward. By memory he didn’t attend one did he?

It just reeks of Nicks being too rigid with his match day coaching.

I reckon I’d play him 70% forward and 30% mid ( at most ) while Rachele is out

I liked his speed and pressure in the forward half

If Peatling is battling in centre ( which he wasn’t as played v well ) then I’d shift him into mid more

I’d bring Nank in and either drop milera ( preferred ) or make him sub

Re Nicks - reckon he’s coaching ok this year so far . Other than milera selection I’m seeing some sound reasoning in most things he’s doing

 

[Slippery Pete]

It pisses me off that the AFL have so much money, insist on having score reviews, yet refuse to spend it on getting the high speed cameras for those reviews. So we're left with looking at super blurry vision to try and determine if a kick has been touched or not.

I would rather live with human error than put up with the current state of the video umpire. It’s a f*cking embarrassment to the sport.

 

[OccamsRazorRay]

Quicker than Borlase and a far better tank for repeat efforts and a lot taller in case you haven't noticed.....also has a pretty good record when matched up on the monster forwards in the past.

Yep, Borlase was made to look good yesterday with all of the kick and hopes into Kangas forward 50 yesterday. Won't have that against GC, he doesn't have the speed to wear his players like a glove when they're leading for the mark.

 

[MrBarry]

It's been about 336 hours of joy and happiness and I'm wary that we still haven't beaten a good team and might be getting ahead of ourselves.

Before the weekend people were saying North was a danger game and we dispatched them easily. While we haven't beaten a top 4 side yet, legs just enjoy the fact that this is the best this team has looked for nearly a decade.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

I would rather live with human error than put up with the current state of the video umpire. It’s a f*cking embarrassment to the sport.

I feel sorry for the score reviewer having to look at an image with 3 pixels to decide if a ball was touched.

 

[Mutineer]

Yep, Borlase was made to look good yesterday with all of the kick and hopes into Kangas forward 50 yesterday. Won't have that against GC, he doesn't have the speed to wear his players like a glove when they're leading for the mark.

Only match up I could possibly see for him is Jed Walter who isn't quite as tall as King or Read but he's an absolute aggressive beast built like a country outhouse and very mobile....

 

[FR0GGY]

What’s happened with Sheezel this year. Ranked 23rd, 23rd and 22nd in matches this year.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I feel sorry for the score reviewer having to look at an image with 3 pixels to decide if a ball was touched.

Just once I want him to protest over the loud speaker

“Nope, sorry. Not clear enough. Get better technology”

 

[Mutineer]

What’s happened with Sheezel this year. Ranked 23rd, 23rd and 22nd in matches this year.

Being moved around a lot by the genius coach, think they need to decide where he offers the most value and stick to it. Drafted more as as a clever forward with sublime skills but he's been used in defence, midfirld and just about everwhere else.

 

[FR0GGY]

Being moved around a lot by the genius coach, think they need to decide where he offers the most value and stick to it. Drafted as a clever forward with sublime skills but he's been used in defence, midfirld and just about everwhere else.

Where was he playing last year? Of half back wasn’t he?