Preview R8: Changes vs. Carlton - Nicks Sucks and Must be Sacked

[hugecannon]

To a spot no one wants to take responsibility for?

Exactly

 

[thebirdman 24]

Burns is even more uninspiring than Nicks, if that's possible

Burns is a fraud, his record speaks for itself. Similar to Nicks.

Everyone celebrated when we moved on our hack coaches a few years ago but we havent tried to improve since. Instead we lost good coaches like Rahilly. The bad ones stay and we haven't nailed the replacements.

Davis and Balme will be great but they need some time to fix this coaching mess.

 

[hugecannon]

Burns is a fraud, his record speaks for itself. Similar to Nicks.

Everyone celebrated when we moved on our hack coaches a few years ago but we havent tried to improve since. Instead we lost good coaches like Rahilly. The bad ones stay and we haven't nailed the replacements.

Davis and Balme will be great but they need some time to fix this coaching mess.

I thought that Podsiadly did a good job while he was here, it was a shame he didn’t hang around for long.

 

[Cromulant]

I thought that Podsiadly did a good job while he was here, it was a shame he didn’t hang around for long.

David Teague wasn't bad either, just not a very good senior coach.

Keeping good assistant coaches is a bit of an issue West of Geelong. Not all that well paid, still high pressure so you end up going local and cheaper, or guys who've been around the block and don't have senior coach ambitions.

 

[hugecannon]

David Teague wasn't bad either, just not a very good senior coach.

Keeping good assistant coaches is a bit of an issue West of Geelong. Not all that well paid, still high pressure so you end up going local and cheaper, or guys who've been around the block and don't have senior coach ambitions.

yeah I think complacency creeps in as well if they don’t have senior ambitions.

If you’ve got a strong coaching structure in place it would be great to bring in fresh people every few years from other cultures and environments

 

[AFC979810]

The players themselves are the problem. Yes, the club enables the behaviour, but the culture of senior player entitlement is real. And don’t think that Tex isn’t using his significant influence behind the scenes to get Smith into the 22, or keep Crouch in etc etc. it’s a failed culture of Neil Craig disciples, hopefully Balme can eradicate it. Tex needs to go, VB needs to go, anyone that has anything to do with serial failure Neil Craig needs to go. We need to start from scratch.

It all goes back to Neil Craig.

 

[Dangarman]

Fun fact:

After Freo got whipped last night, teams that have crossed the WA border to play this season have a 4-9 win/loss record.
Travelling team first.
R1 -
Suns 163 d WC 49
Freo 69 lost to Geel 147
R2 -
Syd 68 d Freo 65
WC 75 lost to Bris 94
R3 - Derby
R4 -
WB 81 lost to Freo 97
WC 51 lost to GWS 132
R5 - Gather round
Freo 108 d Rich 47
WC 50 lost to Carl 121
R6
Ess 77 d WC 75
Freo 97 lost to Mel 107
R7
Ad 67 lost to Freo 85
WC 74 lost to Haw 124
R8
Freo 33 lost to StK 94

Points for/against: 1013-1237 = 81.9%

 

[MRB37]

David Teague wasn't bad either, just not a very good senior coach.

Keeping good assistant coaches is a bit of an issue West of Geelong. Not all that well paid, still high pressure so you end up going local and cheaper, or guys who've been around the block and don't have senior coach ambitions.

Teague was one I was hoping we'd reach back out to when he left Richmond, but I doubt we even asked (and he probably doesn't want to leave Melbourne either).

 

[Southerntakeover]

It all goes back to Neil Craig.

It kind of does though

 

[1970crow]

Draper was dropped for Fog mate.

Berry for Crouch
Butts for Murray
Smith for Hinge
Fog for Draper

So you still reckon Fog replaced Draper? Even though Draper was sub and he’s been replaced by Berry? Draper has been replaced by Berry, NFI why you believed otherwise.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Curtin is really becoming a presence

 

[1970crow]

David Teague wasn't bad either, just not a very good senior coach.

Keeping good assistant coaches is a bit of an issue West of Geelong. Not all that well paid, still high pressure so you end up going local and cheaper, or guys who've been around the block and don't have senior coach ambitions.

Not well paid? Absolute rubbish, these guys are on $200k/year+. It’s media, coaching or scanning groceries at $45k/year. And going cheaper is crap, there’s a cap, it needs to be spent, going cheaper ie Godden, is simply stupidity.

 

[Cromulant]

Not well paid? Absolute rubbish, these guys are on $200k/year+. It’s media, coaching or scanning groceries at $45k/year. And going cheaper is crap, there’s a cap, it needs to be spent, going cheaper ie Godden, is simply stupidity.

OK champ

 

[Mutineer]

Ummmm

 

[dogs105]

Sack Nicks

 

[aabp1978]

Hate to say it..but I think Nank goes out for Hinge…

 

[OccamsRazorRay]

I'm no Smith fan by any stretch of the imagination, but is it that difficult to see why? Hinge is out which is a tonne of experience out the door so they're no doubt worried about the stability of the backline. Smith also has decent leg speed, very similar to Hinge. If you're talking like-for-like attributes (not in terms of actual quality) with experience then he'll be in consideration. The game is metres gained in that position, and Milera is having a shocker bringing the ball down the ground and keeps passing it sideways (132 metres gained......)

Nankervis just doesn't look great in that position off HB, Curtin doesn't have the speed, we don't want to swing Dawson into that position or we'll simply get murdered in the middle with Cripps/Hewett/Cerra combo...

I'm all for giving Edwards a debut but this coaching group won't take the risk in an inexperienced kid over Smith, ain't gonna happen. Like I've said previously Crows rebuild is done, and giving players games to blood them when they're an unknown quantity isn't going to happen unless they are in a CLEAR vein of form, and when there isn't another experienced option available. The coaching group are terrified for their jobs.

Outs:-
Murray
Hinge
Crouch
Taylor

Ins:-
Butts
Smith
Berry
Fog

Draper (Sub)

Happy to take apologies this morning! Please form an orderly queue

 

[OccamsRazorRay]

Dawson not in his best form? hahahahaha

He's currently sitting 3rd favourite for the Brownlow..

Never change Crows board, never change

Happy to take apologies for this one as well. Please form another orderly queue!

There is no other team board that is as insufferable as this one. The anti-crows, anti-Nicks, Anti-bloody-everything rhetoric in here is off the charts. Hope a few of you pull your head in after that performance on the weekend

 

[OccamsRazorRay]

Oh so now it's not about his form and is instead about the company he keeps?

Dawson is provably down on form compared to his All Australian year in metrics like turnovers and kicking. Wasn't even close to worst-in-the-league bad a few years ago.

Maybe put away the snide remarks if you are categorically wrong?

How you feeling today Scorpus? This was a terrible take..

 

[FR0GGY]

Happy to take apologies this morning! Please form an orderly queue

As long as you can admit you were wrong about Dawson not being in career form.
Even he realizes he was in a slump.

Crows Captain opens up on how tough week helped spark form

Dawson was prolific against the Blues

www.afc.com.au

“Despite collecting 21 disposals last week, Dawson conceded his on-ground influence wasn’t where he wanted it to be and said it was important to return to strong form.

“I try not not to listen too much to the outside noise, but I think the past few weeks I haven’t been playing the way I want to play,” Dawson told AFC Media.”


I wasn’t even going to make a post about it, but since you came out swinging you’ve kicked an own goal.

 

[Cromulant]

As long as you can admit you were wrong about Dawson not being in career form.
Even he realizes he was in a slump.

Crows Captain opens up on how tough week helped spark form

Dawson was prolific against the Blues

www.afc.com.au

“Despite collecting 21 disposals last week, Dawson conceded his on-ground influence wasn’t where he wanted it to be and said it was important to return to strong form.

“I try not not to listen too much to the outside noise, but I think the past few weeks I haven’t been playing the way I want to play,” Dawson told AFC Media.”

Bet they thought they were clever for a few minutes.

Pesky facts !!!

 

[davos44]

So are we sacking Nicks or not?

I would like to sack him if we can pick up Hinkley and then win a flag under him.

 

[FR0GGY]

Bet they thought they were clever for a few minutes.

Pesky facts !!!

Unbelievable, everyone on here loves Jordan and how he goes about it, but occams the only one I’ve seen that couldn’t see his output/impact was well down for 3 weeks

 

[AFC979810]

I wasn’t even going to make a post about it, but since you came out swinging you’ve kicked an own goal.

Hmmmm this one might be heading towards John Who territory (Where he denied Nicks made a mistake even after Nicks came out saying he made a mistake).

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Hopefully our bad is getting better

Smith's recall was typical short-sighted Crows, going back to options that have contributed to our lengthy finals drought.

However, Smith is no Murphy. He's actually been a good player over the journey.

So it's at the lower end of the bad scale.

It's not Worrell in the twos for structure bad
Or Himmelberg late in for a wet night game bad
Or Thilthorpe in the twos because Billy clunked a couple of grabs in preseason bad
Or Pedlar forward tag on Tom Stewart bad
Or let Serong and Brayshaw run free bad
Or Crouch play through your hip injury bad

Here's to more slightly less dumb decisions