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Someone correct me if i'm wrong but it is a rolling thing which is then applied to that particular season. Hence port's flagpole was higher due to their previous two seasons (their huge increase in performance) as opposed to yours where you made a grand final and then were knocked out in a semi final. This would explain why their's was higher. Of course if this is the case then your's should be higher than port's this year as you perfprmed better last year. I'm not sure what the weighting is though. Or even if i'm correct. It would make sense if this is what the squiggle does though.
Yeah not sure either. Considering they were the ones to knock us out, it makes sense. If it were just for the year though it doesn't.

Eh, f*** it, footy is back!!!
 
More that Port were 9th, so was impossible for them to win it all, yet the flagpole showed them as more likely than Freo. Doesn't make sense. Unless it's not an each year thing, but on a rolling basis.

That's nice. It didn't think we'd make minor premiers and we did. So it was completely and utterly wrong there. Statistics be damned.

When does it "count" by the way? If the premiership is the only yardstick then we have failed and have 16 other teams that failed along with us... Pretty stupid statement.
Freo and their fans have a rich history of participation awards, pats on the back for effort and accepting mediocre outcomes.

Not for results, unfortunately.
 
Freo and their fans have a rich history of participation awards, pats on the back for effort and accepting mediocre outcomes.

Not for results, unfortunately.
What are these results you keep banging on about? You make no sense.

It took the Hawks 36 years to win their first premiership. We're in our 22nd year. The Hawks' first 22 years were utterly shithouse in comparison.

So last year we made a prelim (finals for the fourth consecutive year), were minor premiers, and one of our players won the Brownlow. Neither of them is a mediocre outcome.
 
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I think the Bulldogs are being underrated going into this season. Sure their list is young an inexperienced for a team that's contending for the finals but they've got enough talent on that list to be able to win the flag in 2016. Last season Liberatore, Smith, Stevens, Johannisen, Hrovat, Honeychurch and Roughead all missed chucks of the season. Add Tom Boyd at full forward who can improve their forward-line, I see no reason as to why they can't go deep into September.

Hawthorn did it in 2008, Collingwood 2010, Essendon 1993, it's not impossible for the Dogs to replicate what those other sides did and win the flag.
 
What are these results you keep banging on about? You make no sense.

It took the Hawks 36 years to win their first premiership. We're in our 22nd year. The Hawks' first 22 years were utterly shithouse in comparison.

So last year we made a prelim (finals for the fourth consecutive year), were minor premiers, and one of our players won the Brownlow. Neither of them is a mediocre outcome.
Any team that finishes top and doesn't win the flag equals a mediocre result. Unless you're a Freo fan.

The sad reality is despite finishing on top of the perch, as predicted, you couldn't get the the job done.

The same hacks that remain on the list wilted under pressure, dropped marks, turned the ball over, missed goals but above all like every one predicted - didn't kick enough goals when it counted. A hall mark of Ross Lyon sides.

in the words of Gary Lyon 'it sort of played out to script in the end'.
 
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Any team that finishes top and doesn't win the flag equals a mediocre result. Unless you're a Freo fan.

The sad reality is despite finishing on top of the perch, as predicted, you couldn't get the the job done.

The same hacks that remain on the list wilted under pressure, dropped marks, turned the ball over, missed goals but above all like every one predicted - didn't kick enough goals when it counted. A hall mark of Ross Lyon sides.

in the words of Gary Lyon 'it sort of played out to script in the end'.
Well. I've confirmed you're an idiot that doesn't understand football.
 
You used Hawthorn's lack of success from the 1930s to 50s to rationalise Fremantles. Completely different times
Just highlighting the difficulty. Very few clubs won a premiership soon after inception.

I desperately want a flag, but it's ignorant to say that Freo haven't done well recently. It's not "accepting mediocrity", it's enjoying the fact that I can go to a game and be confident that Freo will actually give it their best effort. After watching them through some dark years, that alone seems like a damn miracle.

It's just unfortunate that we've timed our run to coincide with that of one of the most dominate teams in recent history ;)
 
I think the Bulldogs are being underrated going into this season. Sure their list is young an inexperienced for a team that's contending for the finals but they've got enough talent on that list to be able to win the flag in 2016. Last season Liberatore, Smith, Stevens, Johannisen, Hrovat, Honeychurch and Roughead all missed chucks of the season. Add Tom Boyd at full forward who can improve their forward-line, I see no reason as to why they can't go deep into September.

Hawthorn did it in 2008, Collingwood 2010, Essendon 1993, it's not impossible for the Dogs to replicate what those other sides did and win the flag.
Would love to agree with you, but we have to make top 4, then win a preliminary final first.

I agree we have good midfield/smaller depth and we no doubt will have good selection headaches, but history says we aren't winners, those 3 clubs you mentioned are equal 1st, 3rd and 4th on the list of AFL/VFL premierships won, they have winners history, we don't. Our team would have to be unbelievably good to win a flag and that means having a dominant midfield complemented by a dominant key forward to build a forwardline around and a rock solid defence.

Under Wallace and Eade we didn't have all 3 elements down pat, under Wallace we had a solid midfield and excellent forwardline, but our backline were battlers at best and we struggled against Adelaide's versatility (plus flooding didn't exist back then), under Eade we had a midget forwardline that were horribly exposed by Geelongs and St Kildas defences come finals, while we lacked another key defender down back.
 

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Coming back to the original point. I view Port as a more legitimate threat to Freo.
The squiggle offers an undeniable statistical analysis that can't be ignored and offers up some reasons as to why Freo fall short.
Coming back to the original point. I view Port as a more legitimate threat to Freo.
The squiggle offers an undeniable statistical analysis that can't be ignored and offers up some reasons as to why Freo fall short.

It's not just squiggle - they keep pantsing you for real too!
 

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Pretty good prediction for scores, considering the reversed result. Really good prediction on the Pies score, considering Cloke had donuts at half time. Richmond result wasn't all that unsurprising, but shouldn't have been that close. Carlton looked pretty good in the pre-season so their performance just continued their form, whereas Richmond looked pretty lazy.
 

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