Racing RACING FUTURES

[X_box_X]

Sadly in line with your average level of value add to the forum

Sure it is

 

[FallingLiefs]

Last eight days has been horrible.

Yeah i'd say between volume of markets being down and the obscure sports having high percentage and not much differential in price it is only getting worse. Hopefully improves in some places for you.

 

[iluvparis]

Sure it is

 

[plays tall 1]

Hard to get too excited about futures with racing a day to day proposition but a couple of prices that look out of whack:
- Doncaster Star of the Seas $51/$15 TAB
- Sires - Mamaragan $9 Neds (not nom’d but reports suggest he’s going there.

Cruel day, hopefully some took the place bet too.

 

[iluvparis]

DP still $4 for the QE - can't see how it doesn't start a prohibitive fave come the jump

 

[come on oliver]

DP still $4 for the QE - can't see how it doesn't start a prohibitive fave come the jump

Ive piled a bit more on this morning. My luck races will be called off today.

 

[mcnulty]

DP still $4 for the QE - can't see how it doesn't start a prohibitive fave come the jump

Concerned about track condition at all? Not much rain forecast but Randwick just doesn’t dry out.

 

[iluvparis]

Concerned about track condition at all? Not much rain forecast but Randwick just doesn’t dry out.

As long as its not completely bottomless it should be fine. The softest track its seen it flogged Lys Gracieux

 

[Howard Moon]

Spiritual warrior won the wa cup over 3200m by 4 lengths in a canter carrying 61, after winning the Pinjarra, Kalgoorlie and autumn cups...

If no internationals come , may be a sneaky crack at a weakened MC?. Getting the trip is half the battle.

Was $101 last night Into $67

Carpenters eyes were piqued

 

[FallingLiefs]

Spiritual warrior won the wa cup over 3200m by 4 lengths in a canter carrying 61, after winning the Pinjarra, Kalgoorlie and autumn cups...

If no internationals come , may be a sneaky crack at a weakened MC?. Getting the trip is half the battle.

Was $101 last night Into $67

Carpenters eyes were piqued

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Carpenters a staunch West Aussie and I took this in jest from him. He's reasonable value.

 

[iluvparis]

I’d mark it $67 minimum to place even if a single international doesn’t turn up.

has none

 

[Howard Moon]

I’d mark it $67 minimum to place even if a single international doesn’t turn up.

has none

Someone's nibbling, Into 51 now

Must be plenty of wa folk

 

[iluvparis]

Someone's nibbling, Into 51 now

Must be plenty of wa folk

yes because it’s been blasted over Twitter all day

 

[mcnulty]

Carpenter is as much a spruiker as a handicapper nowadays. I struggle to listen to him.

Having said that, WA horses are increasingly showing they’re up to it. Theyre not bred to win restricted sales 2yo races like the Eastern States so they’re more than competitive as older horses.

With no internationals, you’d give a Sandgroper a good chance...if it weren’t for the imports.

 

[iluvparis]

Carpenter is as much a spruiker as a handicapper nowadays. I struggle to listen to him.

Having said that, WA horses are increasingly showing they’re up to it. Theyre not bred to win restricted sales 2yo races like the Eastern States so they’re more than competitive as older horses.

With no internationals, you’d give a Sandgroper a good chance...if it weren’t for the imports.

Exactly - I had a 5 second look and if a horse like Raheen House is $51 than SW should be triple that.

 

[mcnulty]

I don’t usually look at the race pre post. Too many unknowns and odds are generally good enough on the day. This will be a different year though, so might have a crack. Still way too early for me though.

 

[iluvparis]

I don’t usually look at the race pre post. Too many unknowns and odds are generally good enough on the day. This will be a different year though, so might have a crack. Still way too early for me though.

I'd honestly think Verry Elleegant at 26s is a better bet than SW at 51s- you might not have to fully get the trip this year if only the locals turn up (to be fair you didn't have to get it last year)

 

[mcnulty]

I want to see VE do it on a firm track first.

 

[mcnulty]

...I know it was just an Adelaide Cup (but so was Surprise Baby), but I’d prefer the 26s KoL at this stage. Still, way too early for me.

 

[Howard Moon]

Even 39 Russian Camelot if being speculative

But yeh, too early, don't even know the covid scenario ect

 

[FallingLiefs]

I don't really rate Come Play with Me but this guy will head over with vastly superior form. Very easy to line the two up.

2 Mile races are a nightmare to rate but will be a strong performance no matter how you cut it.

 

[iluvparis]

The only ante post value is in raiders these days anyway.

Backing a horse like SW at that price this far out is just lighting money on fire. He’d jump that price on the day even in an all local field.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

The only ante post value is in raiders these days anyway.

Backing a horse like SW at that price this far out is just lighting money on fire. He’d jump that price on the day even in an all local field.

Correct
Key is timing it right though... will be hard this year if any are able to come
With racing minimal around the world anything of note will be well found

FWIW I’ve 2 small antepost bets in just with $5 bonus bets

Caulfield Cup - Dalasan ( Dalakhani blood shows through and crazy old Leon sets him on a proper racing prep)

Melb Cup - Hasta La War - a throw at the stumps at 200/1 - I’ve done well locally on it is all

 

[plays tall 1]

If we assume there’ll be no internationals (plenty to play out on that but it’s not looking good), presumably Verry Elleegant and Regal Power will be near topweights with ratings of 116 and 114 respectively. Master of Wine and Surprise Baby at 108 would get in quite nicely.

 

[FallingLiefs]

RP won't go the cup, I don't know where this has come from.