Racism alive & well in Aussie Army it seems

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i am appalled that in 2004 a vast majority of australians are racist and non educated towards aboriginal people...we could learn so much from these people about caring for land , flora and fauna usages and learing about our natural wildlife but instead we treat them like shi# and with no respect...
Lets not get too carried away Lasher..
 

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Simple really. Only way to address race-related problems in this country is for people to take off their PC specs and see what's really going on in some places, and start listening to what the majority wants and how they feel.
 

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i am appalled that in 2004 a vast majority of australians are racist and non educated towards aboriginal people...we could learn so much from these people about caring for land , flora and fauna usages and learing about our natural wildlife but instead we treat them like shi# and with no respect...
I think you will find that the decline in aboriginal living standards, and the loss of traditional skills and family networks is not brought about by racism, but on the contrary, attempts by do gooders to 'help' aboriginal communities by getting them addicted to welfare handouts.
 

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I think you will find that the decline in aboriginal living standards, and the loss of traditional skills and family networks is not brought about by racism, but on the contrary, attempts by do gooders to 'help' aboriginal communities by getting them addicted to welfare handouts.
Very true. I believe that Australia has a strong "racist undertone", but it has nothing to do with conditions in Aboriginal communities. Most of these problems have been caused by local mismanagement and bleeding heart bureaucracy.

BTW, on the subject of the thread I believe it was both inappropriate and distasteful.
 

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David Votoupal said:
Simple really. Only way to address race-related problems in this country is for people to take off their PC specs and see what's really going on in some places, and start listening to what the majority wants and how they feel.
And that is?
 

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And that is?
You don't really need to know do you Mantis?

Let's just say that an elected government reflects the views of a majority of its voters.

Sad reflection on Aussie and US society.
 

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You don't really need to know do you Mantis?

Let's just say that an elected government reflects the views of a majority of its voters.

Sad reflection on Aussie and US society.
Yes I would like to know what he meant, I have a fair idea, but just want to see his thoughts.
 
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Well social engineers have tried to tell us we should live as one big happy family, accept all different cultures and peoples, etc which might sound fantastic on paper but in reality? You only need to look at the mess that is Sydney, with all sorts of problems in the suburbs, to see what it's brought. The UK is another perfect example.

Show me an example of multiculturalism working? I could give you plenty of good examples about why current policies simply DON'T work.
 

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Well social engineers have tried to tell us we should live as one big happy family, accept all different cultures and peoples, etc which might sound fantastic on paper but in reality? You only need to look at the mess that is Sydney, with all sorts of problems in the suburbs, to see what it's brought. The UK is another perfect example.

Show me an example of multiculturalism working? I could give you plenty of good examples about why current policies simply DON'T work.
Tell me what your solution is then, you said listen to what the majority wants, tell me what that is?
 
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Well simple:

- we should be allowed to state the facts about things like crime, gangs, drugs, welfare abuse, etc without being called racist.

- abolish multiculturalism because it simply isn't working

- special treatment for different communities, and all the divisive and hypocritical policies that we've been subjected to, should be done away with.

Furthermore, you can't force people to accept or embrace something they don't want to or are uncomfortable with, because it goes against democratic principles.
 

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David Votoupal said:
Well simple:

- we should be allowed to state the facts about things like crime, gangs, drugs, welfare abuse, etc without being called racist.

- abolish multiculturalism because it simply isn't working

- special treatment for different communities, and all the divisive and hypocritical policies that we've been subjected to, should be done away with.

Furthermore, you can't force people to accept or embrace something they don't want to or are uncomfortable with, because it goes against democratic principles.
OK to sum up what you said in a nutshell, let's go back to the white policy idea, you can abuse & denigrate anyone who isn't a white, christian, middle class Australian.

OK got it. :rolleyes:

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Nope, but the majority of us are not pro-multiculturalism, and I'm certainly not pro-refugee or mass immigration either.

I'm just pointing out that minorities often claim we're being a racist country, with a racist government etc but in fact many of them through their own misendemours bring antipathy onto themselves.

There are many good examples of two or more different cultures or groups of people not getting on in the same nation. Yugoslavia can be seen as a perfect example, but Fiji, Nigeria, Belgium, Spain and Canada are also fine examples. I'm just being realistic here.

A country like Canada, whose culture and system of government is similar to our own, is a good example of why multiculturalism isn't working. Pierre Trudeau and his Liberal government devised it, to accomodate minority interests with the ideas of multiculturalism, "distinct societies", etc. and look at what it's resulted for Canada- FFS the country almost fell apart because almost half of Quebec wanted out at the last referrendum. There you have it.
 

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Well simple:

- we should be allowed to state the facts about things like crime, gangs, drugs, welfare abuse, etc without being called racist.

- abolish multiculturalism because it simply isn't working
Why do you say it is not working? I think multi-culturalism is one thing in this world that should be celebrated. Having been to cities such as London, Toronto, Amsterdam, New York I 'd say that it is working OK. It's also fair to say that ethnic groups tend to stick to their own areas in cities. This goes for Australians living overseas too.

How successfully did your family assimilate into Australian life? They were lucky to get the opportunity. It's a bit rich to say scrap multi-culturalism, now that your own family has settled in Australia.
 

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Nope, but the majority of us are not pro-multiculturalism,
You keep sprouting the majority of us, can you back that up, because if there is a majority, I would think it is very small & also think it has only gathered more support, since little johnny coward has been spreading his fear & hate campaign.
 
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Fear and hate? There is no evidence of our government promoting "fear and hate" towards minorities. We might be less PC now, but at least the majority have come to their senses and have seen for themselves where pandering to minority interests leads to.

I'd like to see what you'd think if you went into some of our Sydney suburbs, especially Redfern and the south-west. Maybe then you'd get a different perspective altogether.
 

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Well does it really matter? I'm born and bred here and I've only ever considered myself Australian, period.
I'm sure a lot of Italians, French, Americans, Brits, Greek, Chinese, Indonesians, Croatians etc etc etc etc would only consider themselves being Australian too, period.
 

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Fear and hate? There is no evidence of our government promoting "fear and hate" towards minorities. We might be less PC now, but at least the majority have come to their senses and have seen for themselves where pandering to minority interests leads to.

I'd like to see what you'd think if you went into some of our Sydney suburbs, especially Redfern and the south-west. Maybe then you'd get a different perspective altogether.
I can assure you, I would think the same, I have many aboriginal friends since moving to Perth, when I first moved here I could not believe the racist attitude that the whites had towards them.

I was sickened to see family & friends walking past a little aboriginal child, who would have been no older than 4 & them saying FO you little coon, wonder why they have a chip on their shoulders, they are faced with racism towards them from a very young age. :mad:
 
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No, you're getting the wrong idea. I don't see or hear of any racism in the area where I live. I've got friends from all backgrounds as well, and eat foods of all kinds too.

However, I am a realist and state things the way they are, whether some like it or not.
 

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Well I'm certainly not in favour of people coming here illegally, but that doesn't make me a racist.
Gee not surprised you totally ignored my post, you asked where little johnny was spreading fear & hate, I just mentioned the children overboard affair, which you totally ignored.

Now tell me, wasn't he spreading fear & hate by that total lie?
 

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Why do you say it is not working? I think multi-culturalism is one thing in this world that should be celebrated. Having been to cities such as London, Toronto, Amsterdam, New York I 'd say that it is working OK. It's also fair to say that ethnic groups tend to stick to their own areas in cities. This goes for Australians living overseas too.

How successfully did your family assimilate into Australian life? They were lucky to get the opportunity. It's a bit rich to say scrap multi-culturalism, now that your own family has settled in Australia.
Multiculturalism is working brilliantly in Holland, Bosnia, Israel, Sri Lanka, Burma etc etc. Not.

Have a look at crime figures by ethnic group in Australia then explain to me if multiculturalism is such a raging success why do certain ethnic groups have such apalling criminal tendencies compared to the rest of us.
 
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