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This is a touchy and sensitive issue. But IMO I've found a lot of people to be very sensitive when someone criticizes people from a different race when their race is irrelevant. Your thoughts..
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What do you mean by 'when their race is irrelevant'? Do you mean some races are not as important as others?
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As in irrelevant in the context of the criticism.
Hmm okay. I don't like discrimination of any kind, but unfortunately it is part of society and it will never be stamped out. People will discriminate against you for any reason. Because you are black, because you are fat, because you are homosexual, because you are female. It goes on and on.
I find it offensive when people refer to others in racist terms, such as, boong, gook, ******, nippy, slope. It's small minded, offensive and uninformed. It's that blatant ignorance that offends me and makes me angry.
I find it offensive when people refer to others in racist terms, such as, boong, gook, ******, nippy, slope. It's small minded, offensive and uninformed. It's that blatant ignorance that offends me and makes me angry.
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Not exactly what I said. Don't put words into my mouth, sunshine!
If I recall what I said was, most people who rob houses use the proceeds to shove it up their arm. Those stats are on record, if you'd like to check it out. Stop trying to change the subject here! Because if I also recall correctly, during that thread, you said something so outrageously stupid that I told you to **** off and never bother me again. Would you like me to reiterate those words?
Agree totally Bee - that blatant vicious (sp?) terminology makes me sick....
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That's a good example. I can't speak for the author but was there racial undertones in the term "walkabout"?
There certainly was. What a piggish thing to say.
Agree, but it becomes a worry when you can't criticize someone without being labelled racist/sexist/ageist/whateverist.
For example if I say "Joe Bloggs is a lazy footballer" that is just an opinion. If the player is aboriginal say, I will immediately get criticized for being racist when I wasn't. If I had said "Joe Bloggs is a lazy footballer BECAUSE he is aboriginal", that would be different and I would deserve to be hammered.
(Does all that make sense)
For example if I say "Joe Bloggs is a lazy footballer" that is just an opinion. If the player is aboriginal say, I will immediately get criticized for being racist when I wasn't. If I had said "Joe Bloggs is a lazy footballer BECAUSE he is aboriginal", that would be different and I would deserve to be hammered.
(Does all that make sense)
Certainly does, Craigy! Whoever wrote that post only needed to say that Neon Leon played pretty crap on Saturday. He didnt need to say that he "went walkabout" - there is obvious reference to his race in that comment, and although the writer thinks he is witty, he is just a downright knob.
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Exactly my point. People are too sensitive in regards to certain races, which clouds their ability to objectivity look at the criticism without bring up racism.
But if your statement makes no reference to that said players race, etc, only his ability as a player, then you really have no case to answer. I dont think there are people running around saying, "you're picking on me just because i am aboriginal" (for example).... are there?
So its OK to use a racial comment when referring to something good a person does, eg. "Black Magic" but you're not allowed to use a racial comment when referring to something bad a person does, eg "Gone Walkabout"?
Smacks of double standards doesn't it?
I don't know why you people are such sticklers for political correctness, if you asked Leon he would probably say he couldn't care less and it was probably an accurate description of the way he played.
Smacks of double standards doesn't it?
I don't know why you people are such sticklers for political correctness, if you asked Leon he would probably say he couldn't care less and it was probably an accurate description of the way he played.
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I am not a racist. I do not condone racism to other people. However, I do know of a few elderly people who are racist. At Umpiring ( true story), we have 2 aboriginals who are goal umpires and 1 who is a boundary umpire. All are very nice people, but all are abused by spectators at the ground. Not for making a poor decision but for the colour of their skin.
Racism is not a good look for anyone who is from a different race and the umpires are always on the look out for any comments that are made on the field by players to umpires and visa versa.
Racism is not a good look for anyone who is from a different race and the umpires are always on the look out for any comments that are made on the field by players to umpires and visa versa.
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What about "reverse racism"? Its racist when a white person says something that refers to skin colour, but when a "coloured" person says something that refers to white people is it ok? (thought occurred to me whilst watching Opera [don't laugh] and her stupid comments).
Here's a thought, if I'm a WOG and I call someone a "stupid WOG", is that racist
IMO the best solution to racism is to not get offended by it, having a sook will only encourage racists to continue.
Here's a thought, if I'm a WOG and I call someone a "stupid WOG", is that racist
IMO the best solution to racism is to not get offended by it, having a sook will only encourage racists to continue.
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
What about "reverse racism"? Its racist when a white person says something that refers to skin colour, but when a "coloured" person says something that refers to white people is it ok? (thought occurred to me whilst watching Opera [don't laugh] and her stupid comments).
Here's a thought, if I'm a WOG and I call someone a "stupid WOG", is that racist
IMO the best solution to racism is to not get offended by it, having a sook will only encourage racists to continue.
It's still racism regardless of the colour of someone's skin or origin.If someone makes a comment that is derogatory toward another and it is based on their origin or skin colour it is still a racist remark!
The best solution to racism is not to get offended by it??That's a little naive.The best way to counter racism is to speak out against it and make the people responsible for it see how stupid and purile they are being.
IMOI consider reverse racism to be: (for example)
A job is advertised and is specified as only available to Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander people. Isn't that discriminating against me because I'm white?
Furthermore, the Marn Grook award won this year by Leon Davis as being the best indigenous player . . . imagine the uproar if there was an award for best white player????
I hate do-gooders who crap on and try and tell people of different cultures what they want and what their rights are blah blah blah. After growing up in Port Augusta, SA and working at the State Housing Commission in South Hedland, WA and being personally blamed for the stolen generation (which happened before my parents were born) I can't stand it when people born and raised in their comfortable white surburban city homes try and tell me what life is like for indigenous people and what they want and what is best for them. Some of these people were literally straight out of the tribes and were being bussed into town and told it was their right to have houses and this and that - which inevitably would be destroyed, sheep carcasses in laundry troughs, roos hanging from clotheslines and 25 people in a 2 bedroom house.
By the same token I also hate generalisation by race by similarly-sheltered people. "They're all lazy" etc. Most of them have probably never even met an Aboriginal - lazy or otherwise.
A job is advertised and is specified as only available to Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander people. Isn't that discriminating against me because I'm white?
Furthermore, the Marn Grook award won this year by Leon Davis as being the best indigenous player . . . imagine the uproar if there was an award for best white player????
I hate do-gooders who crap on and try and tell people of different cultures what they want and what their rights are blah blah blah. After growing up in Port Augusta, SA and working at the State Housing Commission in South Hedland, WA and being personally blamed for the stolen generation (which happened before my parents were born) I can't stand it when people born and raised in their comfortable white surburban city homes try and tell me what life is like for indigenous people and what they want and what is best for them. Some of these people were literally straight out of the tribes and were being bussed into town and told it was their right to have houses and this and that - which inevitably would be destroyed, sheep carcasses in laundry troughs, roos hanging from clotheslines and 25 people in a 2 bedroom house.
By the same token I also hate generalisation by race by similarly-sheltered people. "They're all lazy" etc. Most of them have probably never even met an Aboriginal - lazy or otherwise.
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
Here's a thought, if I'm a WOG and I call someone a "stupid WOG", is that racist
nope it wouldnt be....
just like how an african-american can easily call each other the N-word... but it has a totally different effect when a white person uses that word.. (jackie chan in rush hour
)geez.. been listening to red-neck talk back radio all my life and i've never heard those comments before !~
by the way, anyone catch the American Latin Music awards... (on during the same time as the grand final ..haha)
How old are your parents? The methods employed in seperating children of 'mixed' unions was going on in Australia right up until the late 70's and early 80's.
I once shared a comfortable white suburban middle class house with a member of the stolen generation(in the late 1980s) who was fortunate enough to find her real father. Having talked with them both at length I am was no expert on the matter but was appalled (and still am)by the inherent racism in Australia's white anglocentric society!And I am a fifth generation white anglo celtic!
