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42,000 at the game, mate. Bad Boy Bubby... I had a laugh at that!I didnt watch the game. I watched bad boy bubby with a few freinds. What was the crowd? Anything under 28 is piss poor
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Hawthorn signed with iinet, and they will take over HSBC as our back-of-jumper sponsor from 2013-onwards.
www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4742/newsid/149293/default.aspx
....I have been thinking about {this} for a while now (may not be universally accepted or I may be the only one who feels like this, but I think there have been times people in here have been ripped off in the past)
- Not for fun competitions or fantasy league design requests, but for those involving actual production of uniforms or logos to be used on uniforms:
* Specific credit (outside of the forum) or some sort of reward for the winning/chosen designer on these competitions.
-- Especially seen some of these in the past that have had rewards have mysteriously ended with no actual winner/chosen designer and the person who posts the thread also goes missing (which leads me to think that promised rewards were never on the table). Also means that the person who designs something to actually be used will receive some sort of credit for their time and effort.
-- Also means that people don't just come on here expecting a design to be created, instead they should be asking for something and are willing to give back in return.
* Note added that all designs submitted are not immediately able to be used. Winning designer MUST be contacted (by pm) and give their final permission for their design to be used and discussion of any "payment" (by payment I mean that it may just be a thank you, but could also be a jersey/guernsey or gift card/money. Completely up to the designer and person who created the competition to decide upon).
** Any design found to have been used by a club/individual without permission of the designer can be (again up to the designer) challenged as a breach of copyright.
The reason for the above is to actually recognise the work and time put in by the designers on this forum, yes we all design for fun but we should also not be taken for granted. I do thank those who have followed though with rewards/payments for designs, but just as many or even more of these competitions have has the mysterious disappearing member and I am sure that some of our designs are now out there being used without us even knowing. Or if the member decides to not use any of our designs then they should at least notify everyone of this decision.
Even though I don't design stuff on this board, I was thinking the same thing when I read that OP. craegus why don't you PM him and offer your service at a fee? If they are looking for a logo competition you would probably win anyway, so why not make something out of it.
I made a thread wanting basketball tops to be made. The desigins were put up & the team choose the design they liked. I offered to give a top to the winner but my mates were all titasses & gave me no extra.
I know a thank-you is not enough when somone has put time & effort to give somone a hand. But then again would you rather design somthing & it not be used or get used & your work was not wasted?
craegus post in the thread for it and inform the person running it.